Quote Originally Posted by Hulud

if you always follow we would still have slaves, women would not be equal, we would still have a king, etc...
Please quote me a passage from the Bible where it condones slavery, inequality, and to worship or follow ANY King besides Jesus.

What does humanity evolution have to do with it?

its not the same thing at all, im talkin about apples and your talkin about tires (no where in the same field of conversation)
It is the exact same thing. How is it not?

You and several others constantly judge Christianity as a WHOLE by the bad deeds of a few that claim to be Christians. Just because someone claims to be something doesn't make them a true follower. EXACTLY as the Muslim situation. The general Muslim community says that their religion is NOT about killing people, yet Ossamah and his crew has been proclaiming that Allah is supporting their attempt at genocide. Can't have it both ways, so someone is dead wrong. Right? How's that any different than you and anyone else talking about how "Christians" are this and that and that church is a rip off and yada yada ALL based off what a FEW people made you feel. That means you are basing your decisions on the actions of a few. I'm not saying that's necessarily right nor wrong, but atleast admit that's what it is.



im not judging anyone. what makes you think i am?
i just said that the beliefs and the so called leaders turned me off of the religion. im not judging anyone for their beliefs, yet for some reason you always think i am
Exhibit A.

You obviously using a different definition of "judging" than is accepted by everyone else.

Just a reminder, here is what "judge" means.....see if any apply to this discussion:

judge Listen: [ jj ]
v. judged, judg·ing, judg·es
v. tr.


To form an opinion or estimation of after careful consideration: judge heights; judging character.

a. Law To hear and decide on in a court of law; try: judge a case. b. Obsolete To pass sentence on; condemn. c. To act as one appointed to decide the winners of: judge an essay contest.

To determine or declare after consideration or deliberation.

Informal To have as an opinion or assumption; suppose: I judge you're right.

Bible To govern; rule. Used of an ancient Israelite leader.




I even highlighted the parts that apply to you. Still think you're not "judging" things? You are.