Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
Where I lost you is that Religion dictates people's MORAL compass, not their earthy legal one.

How would following the "laws" here translate to religion? Right and wrong is not only defined by laws, but also by morals. As a matter of fact, there are more people that govern themselves according to their MORALS rather than written laws. Sometimes that's good, other times it's not. But that's the truth.
you asked where i get my morals from, so i said "how i think society would benefit best". so i was just making a point that following books and laws is not always the best way, this really had nothing to do with religion. you just asked where i got my morals from so i said where and tried to explain what i meant.




Yes you are. You have always said that religion was a farce and that it was a rip off and that it was fake. All those opinions you have formed because of your experience with a very LIMITED exposure of "churches" or "Christians".
ok your right i do judge the religion, because i dont believe in it

So what I'm saying is that you shouldn't pass judgement on ALL Christians based on a few. I'm not saying you're wrong in your belief. You feel what you feel. I am noone to argue that. But just don't glob everyone into the same dough because Religion is not a cookie cutter.
i have never once judged a person for their beliefs nor do i "glod" everyone inot the same dough





I didn't say you were judging anyONE. I said you're judging "Christianity" based on a limited exposure and therefore you are passing judgement onto something based on the actions of few. Again, I'm not trying to argue if that's right nor wrong, but I'm just saying that you should at least recognize that's what you're doing.
i see what your saying now




Ok, I'll bite with you too.
time to reel you in lol
sorry i always wanted to say that when i see you post that comment


What is it that you don't like about church "leaders"?
let me get this across before you say im judging them all cause i see that trap waiting for me. obviously i dont know EVERY leader and your comment is going to be "dont let one ruin it for all of them". so with that said:
i dont like all the altar boy stuff that happens.
i hate how most the preists i have seen at churches i have been to, guilt you into making donations, something about teh tithe (i dont know what % that is)
i dont like what they have done in the past either

What is it that you don't agree with in a Christian belief system?
basically all the stories, like adam and eve, moses, noah, etc...

but it basically comes down to one thing, we can discuss all this stuff but i still have one major problem with religion in general, i cant prove there is a god to myself nor can i disprove the existance of a god (hence me being agnostic)