Scripture a day (Islam Edition)

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There's only one problem - one of the people that they hung out with during these discussions was an old black man. They didn't seem to have any problems with respecting his opinion, and certainly didn't see him as a "lesser man" (granted that he was the only black man in their group, and not a member as far as I know). So, where were they evil/bad/terrible?

They endorse evil. There's no way to wear the KKK brand without accepting this reality. If you are a member of the KKK, i dont care if you spend every waking hour doing charity and good deeds, you are endorsing a brand that promotes evil. Your good deeds are masking the designed purpose of that organization and contributing to it's recruitment.

So, what is your solution? Would you force everyone that is Muslim into concentration camps, exile them out of the country, stop allowing any Muslim immigrants into the US, etc? Do we stop having religious tolerance in the US and become "un-American"?

Step 1 is to make sure that our own citizens and customs are reinforced and that our open people are empowered to be free individuals. A major contributor to that idea is your 2nd amendment rights. As long as the US is strong and free, we have no worries of being ruled. Current policy weakens civil liberty, freedom and our ability as individuals to repel these problems. Tolerance of religion can be mated with awareness. Rather than us being apologetic to the radical aspects of Islam, we should openly condemn them and punish their crimes to the fullest extent of the law. Sharia law should never be honored on american soil and every individual who becomes an american citizen should be protected by our laws.

So, you believe that these children born in America are being deceived from birth? What advantage is that to this "grand Islamic plot"?
Perhaps the Islamic scriptures that they were preached to by the iman taught them to live in peace and harmony? Or is that too difficult for you to believe?
See, I know Muslims here in America that have raised their children to adults, and I know other Muslims completely unrelated to the others that are currently raising their children to be peaceful. I'm talking about different Muslims, with different backgrounds, some born in the US, some in other countries, some raised since birth to be Muslim, and others who have converted is Islam. They all have in common their peaceful integration into the American way of life. This knowledge that I have of them at a close, personal level run completely contrary to what you have been stating over and over again. Do you think that these unrelated groups (they don't know each other) somehow are being controlled and brainwashed to be enemies of yours without any common denominators? That does not seem logical to me.

I dont see how this changes anything. The scripture is what it is. They are not following the scripture, they are taking some of the scripture as a guide. I support some religious practices, but i claim no religion. I would never endorse any religion in it's entirety. I dont know why these people you know feel the need to endorse Islam. I guess its human nature to want to belong to a group, and when no group completely suits you, you simply chose one, or inherit it from your parents.

Actually, it's a bunch of Islamic kids that just go to London each summer and have fun, then go back home in time for the prayers and fasting. There is no "mocking" of western culture - they do this every year and love it. It's no different than American college kids heading down to Daytona. You are making baseless assumptions about something you know nothing about. They aren't deceiving anyone, they are just having a good time - unless you believe that somehow every single one of them is an active terrorist just there to scout out targets.

Again, the theme is that these people are not following the scripture. They are casual observers of Islam. My "beef" is with the religion itself. My other argument was a stretch.

So then, by your statement - you believe that people don't need religion to be good, but "good Muslims" are walking advertisements for evil.

You know, I saw a lot of condemnation for the Boston bombers from the Muslim community. How does that work with "hanging around the bonfire"?

Analogy still applies..... those "good muslims" attended the bon fire, then went home when the rest of the Klan went out and burned crosses and hung people. As long as they claim Islam, theyre walking advertisements for what happens on behalf of islam. The extremism exists in the texts, not everyone embraces it, but it is always there. as long as the text is promoted, some portion of people will adopt the radical views contained within. Unintentionally, your muslim friends are contributing to this problem. The boston bombers are a great example. They appeared perfectly normal to everyone around them, they probably were good people at some point in time..... eventually their life's course led them to discover the extremism contained within Islam and they fell victim to it. That's Islam..... a bed of flowers planted around the gate of a slaughter house. Some people can stop, pick a flower and walk away.... others see the flowers and walk inside.