Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
Qd: funny one about the made in china and tree thing. i wonder if you cut yourself open or look anywhere on your body if it says made by _insert parents names_. didnt think so.
You're comparing factual information, though. It doesn't have to say my parents because they were there. My Mom was there when I was born and my Father laid claim to my being his son. So you're comparison just turned into the average Hollywood marriage....null and void.

Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
my original post was not to insult non-believers but to try and grasp as to what their reasoning behind not believing is.
Maybe you should worded it in a less demeaning way instead of they way you put it.

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i think the biggest problem non-believers have falls in one of two categories or both. 1. they cant deal with the idea that they dont truly control their own lives. 2. they dont like to think that there are consequences for their actions.
See this is you and what you THINK the biggest "problem" (which is another demeaning shot at people who don't believe) is with people without your faith. You keep relying on assumptions and you're trying to push them on others. You're doing everything you can to be condescending to people who aren't in agreement with your beliefs. Saying we have problems. Saying we can't grasp ideas that you believe in. You don't even see it, either. Well ,you are living up to the "Christian" way of thinking, that's for sure.

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you know what i dont have facts to prove God and you dont have facts to disprove Him.
I bet it's harder to prove His existence than to prove His non-existence. You can prove to me that I have a phone in my pocket because you may be able to see it or we can go in my pocket and get it. You can't prove Heaven or God that same way. We can't go see heaven. We can't call God up or go see Him anywhere.

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you may not agree to the God of the Bible and those reasons are your own to keep, but from your own mouth you agreed with me that all this came from something. to take a gamble that the God of the Bible is not Him and bet your eternity on something your not too sure about is not safe
What do you do, just take the parts that make you feel more powerful and superior to me and go with that and just overlook other things I've said? I will say this one more time and I'm going to post this in ALL CAPS so you'll see it:

I BELIEVE IN GOD AND HEAVEN. I JUST QUESTION A LOT OF STUFF!!!!

I won't post it again. And yes, I agree, as I'm sure most the world would agree, that we all came from something.

BUT NO ONE KNOWS WHERE!!

Later, QD.