Could Jesus have been an alien?

[BABY J]

The difference is this:

I can say "there's the moon" to some1 who doesn't believe it -- and they can see it. They instantly become a believer after seeing it or they're stupid.

I can take some1 who doesn't believe in the ocean TO the ocean and let them see it and swim in it... either they start to believe it that day or they are an idiot.

Guess what - I don't pray, I make 6 figures a year. Is the God that I don't believe in showing me favor? Tell me about the things that you pray for that you DON'T get --- tell me about those. What about the MILLIONS of people that God is NOT good to. The notion that "well, God is good to ME and that's all that matters" is a CROCK. There are MORE people that he is NOT good too - explain that. The simple fact is that God (if she exists) is NOT good to a lot of the people a lot of the time. So you prayed for a job and you got offers --- "God" MUST be good right? Well isn't that some selfish shit right there if I ever heard it. There are ALSO people who had a good job and just MAGICALLY lost it, became homeless, cracked out, and died. There are ALSO kids getting pimped and raped in alleys asking for invisible help from "God" that never arrives. "God" is SOO good - let me tell you.

Look sir... in life you don't always get what you pray for, you don't always get what you deserve... you get what you get... and that's whether you believe in God or not.

So you say God speaks to you? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? Do you REALLY think that a God capable or creating all the we see and all that we know thinks YOU are THAT special that She is going to take time out of her day to speak to you? LOL. Don't forget --- you're not special, so she is going to take time out of her existence to speak to the MILLIONS of other followers too?? Wow. Furthermore -- do you think that you and every other bible-thumper has been created SOOOO special that you have the "stuff" required to 'hear' from such a supernatural being? If a God that powerful "spoke" to you your head would fucking exlplode.

[choiiiiiiiii]

The difference is this:

I can say "there's the moon" to some1 who doesn't believe it -- and they can see it. They instantly become a believer after seeing it or they're stupid.

I can take some1 who doesn't believe in the ocean TO the ocean and let them see it and swim in it... either they start to believe it that day or they are an idiot.

Guess what - I don't pray, I make 6 figures a year. Is the God that I don't believe in showing me favor? Tell me about the things that you pray for that you DON'T get --- tell me about those. What about the MILLIONS of people that God is NOT good to. The notion that "well, God is good to ME and that's all that matters" is a CROCK. There are MORE people that he is NOT good too - explain that. The simple fact is that God (if she exists) is NOT good to a lot of the people a lot of the time. So you prayed for a job and you got offers --- "God" MUST be good right? Well isn't that some selfish shit right there if I ever heard it. There are ALSO people who had a good job and just MAGICALLY lost it, became homeless, cracked out, and died. There are ALSO kids getting pimped and raped in alleys asking for invisible help from "God" that never arrives. "God" is SOO good - let me tell you.

Look sir... in life you don't always get what you pray for, you don't always get what you deserve... you get what you get... and that's whether you believe in God or not.

So you say God speaks to you? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? Do you REALLY think that a God capable or creating all the we see and all that we know thinks YOU are THAT special that She is going to take time out of her day to speak to you? LOL. Don't forget --- you're not special, so she is going to take time out of her existence to speak to the MILLIONS of other followers too?? Wow. Furthermore -- do you think that you and every other bible-thumper has been created SOOOO special that you have the "stuff" required to 'hear' from such a supernatural being? If a God that powerful "spoke" to you your head woulda fucking exlplode.

6 figures? Who says having 6 figures is the only way to be shown a favor? Again, money doesn’t buy you happiness. People live happy and great lives without a 6 figure income….you having so just means you worked hard and became successful. God did not need to help you with that, but he most likely did.

And when did it become believed that God has to be good to us all the time? It seems in your world, for God to be your homeboy, he has to be the all perfect, never let anyone down God….news flash for you, it doesn’t work that way…because there is also evil…his name is satan.



God speaks to us all. Maybe not through obvious ways like speaking to us, but through little things throughout the day that we might take for granted…





You sure seem to hate Christianity, perhaps God let you down once? Something happened with a loved one?

[BABY J]

6 figures? Who says having 6 figures is the only way to be shown a favor? Again, money doesn’t buy you happiness. People live happy and great lives without a 6 figure income….you having so just means you worked hard and became successful. God did not need to help you with that, but he most likely did.

And when did it become believed that God has to be good to us all the time? It seems in your world, for God to be your homeboy, he has to be the all perfect, never let anyone down God….news flash for you, it doesn’t work that way…because there is also evil…his name is satan.

God speaks to us all. Maybe not through obvious ways like speaking to us, but through little things throughout the day that we might take for granted…

You sure seem to hate Christianity, perhaps God let you down once? Something happened with a loved one?

LOL @ the new guy running up in the thread. I tell you what - before you pre-judge, maybe read a few of the threads on this subject and figure out who I am, but more importantly who I am not.

It is impossible for God to let me down b/c She doesn't exist... at least not in the sense that it's taught in Church anyway. Also... when did I mention Christianity in any of my posts in this thread? Again - can't see the forest for looking at the trees.

I mentioned my career b/c Creman mentioned his wifes struggles for a job - and it was ONLY for comparison - not to gloat. It was used as an example --- you're quite possibly the only person that didn't see that though.

I'm not one of those people that has to "give credit to God" for every little thing that I do. I have a VERY simple view on this thing. If there is a God, she is DEFINITLEY not sitting on a throne making moves to affect every little thing you do or don't do w/ your life - helping you get jobs - making sure robbers don't hit your house. If that was the case you wouldn't have shown up on this rock as one of the most intelligent beings that we know. To ask the invisible for more is just plain RUDE. YOU EXIST --- you EXIST... you can be some1 that changes the world JUST b/c of that fact alone if you know how to think for yourself. But no - that's not enough for you is it, EXISTING is not enough for thumpers. "Hey God, in addition to giving me the CHANCE OF A FUCKING LIFETIME (you could have shown up as a cockroach ya kno) to shape my OWN life and be whoever I DARE DREAM TO BE --- how about I ask you for more and more shit every night? PLEASE God, in addition to giving me life as the most marvelous of all yoru creation, I'm gonna need you to help me w/ a job in that said life - I'm gonna need you to help me pass this test at school so I can make more money - I'm gonna need you to help me get this loan Lord so I can buy shit. Oh - and Lord, I'm the most advanced and capable of all of your creations but PLEASE think for me too so I don't have to do it on my own." SAVE IT!!! If there is a God, she set things in motion for us to EXIST and for us as people to figure the rest out on our own - and we as a people are failing miserably at that. Falling on your knees praying for God to help your neighbor when YOU are your neighbors neighbor - NOT God. If there is a God she is probably disappointed about thumpers asking for "help" for things that she has given you all the power to change on your own. I see it all the time when people pray... "God please help those that are less fortunate than we are.", then you get up and throw away half a plate of food b/c it didn't taste right. YOU HELP THOSE PEOPLE!! Stop playing yourself short and give yourself more credit sirs. People have missed the whole ship and it's disgusting.

PLEASE show me where I said I hate Christianity. I'd like to see that... and again, God has never let me down. I EXIST - that is fine for me and is enough for me. Don't try to see me man, that's too tall of an order for you --- trust me. Stick w/ what you think you know.

[creman]

I mentioned my career b/c Creman mentioned his wifes struggles for a job - and it was ONLY for comparison - not to gloat. It was used as an example --- you're quite possibly the only person that didn't see that though.

But you missed the piont. It's not about the money, plus you have no idea what type of salary she makes. It's the fact that once asked for, it was given. It is an example, I didn't turn it into a money debate, you did because aparantly it made you feel superior.

i keep hearing the non believer arguements about not believing in God and the ones with faith trying to defend something we ourselves don fully comprehend. and all this leads to is the same old thing a stalemate where believers keep believing and non believers keep doing their own thing. i say that we try a new approach, instead of trying to prove our beliefs with evidence why not instead try to understand and comprehend where each side is coming from. let us take the time to put aside our arguements and instead try to learn from one another? after all are we not all just trying to seek more knowledge in the end?

I disagree. There are the few who read and don't voice their opinion. They can choose to believe what they want, but I want to make sure they hear both sides.

plus baby you say "I'm not hostile" and then the next sentance say "I'm laughing at you." I'm writing you off as a true liar and hypocrit.

edited to take out other personal insults...

[BABY J]

But you missed the piont. It's not about the money, plus you have no idea what type of salary she makes. It's the fact that once asked for, it was given. It is an example, I didn't turn it into a money debate, you did because aparantly it made you feel superior.

Ok - now you're just being a dork - and I'll return the favor and oblige. It has NOTHING to do w/ making any1 feel superior - you obv didn't read my response to that above. THE FACT IS that I don't believe. I had no problems finding work after college. I didn't have to "ask" and "receive" - I made myself marketable and I simple walked up and chose from the many offers I had. That was to show you that you DON'T always get what you want - what you pray for - or what you deserve. You get what you get. Please tell me that you understand that b4 u assume I'd say something "just" to feel "superior" over some1 that I don't even know.. I hope you give my I.Q and intelligence more respect than that.

[BABY J]

plus baby you say "I'm not hostile" and then the next sentance say "I'm laughing at you." I'm writing you off as a true liar and hypocrit. With that said, I've never seen anyone with a 6 figure salary drive this


I'm assuming it's yours considering there are tons of pictures from a site in your profile from start to finish. Good luck at life! I really feel sorry for ya.

Since when does laughing = hostile?? I mean - I only spent 8 years in the military in many hostile environments and not once in Afghanistan, Iraq, counter-drug in S. America, Bahrain was laughing prevalent in those VERY hostile environments.

So go to KBB.COM and tell me what that car was worth --- then come to my house and let's tally up receipts. Let's take a better example - pull the pics from the 2003 Spec V and guess how much money (since you want to continue to push the financial aspects of things) and guess how much money it takes to get a stock 153hp QR25DE to get to 242HP ALL MOTOR under the capable of hands of the now defunct Sunbelt Racing Engines. Again... you don't know what you don't know. I have more cars that you have fingers and that is not exaggerating.

Not that I owe you an explanation, but I assure you my pockets aren't nervous. I am VERY much grounded b/c I got to where I am now the HARD way. And I like that, b/c I don't have to drive a Z06 to prove a point to you. I've made 6 figures since 2004 and you are hard pressed to find me in anything other than a $10 Aeropastale tee shirt. But if you want to compare ATM receipts we can. Unlike a lot of people, I still like the SAME things that I liked when I was working the drive-thru at Krystal's as a 15 year old - I just do it bigger and better. To switch up to a supercar (which is something I am VERY capable of doing) is simply not me. I didn't change my appetitie when I changed my net worth.

There is NO need to "feel sorry" for me kind sir. Obviously I hurt your feelings. And if you think what I drive is any indication of what I make then I must be doing something right - LOL. Good thing I don't have feelings or they'd be hurt right now - lol.

[choiiiiiiiii]

LOL @ the new guy running up in the thread. I tell you what - before you pre-judge, maybe read a few of the threads on this subject and figure out who I am, but more importantly who I am not.

It is impossible for God to let me down b/c She doesn't exist... at least not in the sense that it's taught in Church anyway. Also... when did I mention Christianity in any of my posts in this thread? Again - can't see the forest for looking at the trees.

I mentioned my career b/c Creman mentioned his wifes struggles for a job - and it was ONLY for comparison - not to gloat. It was used as an example --- you're quite possibly the only person that didn't see that though.

I'm not one of those people that has to "give credit to God" for every little thing that I do. I have a VERY simple view on this thing. If there is a God, she is DEFINITLEY not sitting on a throne making moves to affect every little thing you do or don't do w/ your life - helping you get jobs - making sure robbers don't hit your house. If that was the case you wouldn't have shown up on this rock as one of the most intelligent beings that we know. To ask the invisible for more is just plain RUDE. YOU EXIST --- you EXIST... you can be some1 that changes the world JUST b/c of that fact alone if you know how to think for yourself. But no - that's not enough for you is it, EXISTING is not enough for thumpers. "Hey God, in addition to giving me the CHANCE OF A FUCKING LIFETIME (you could have shown up as a cockroach ya kno) to shape my OWN life and be whoever I DARE DREAM TO BE --- how about I ask you for more and more shit every night? PLEASE God, in addition to giving me life as the most marvelous of all yoru creation, I'm gonna need you to help me w/ a job in that said life - I'm gonna need you to help me pass this test at school so I can make more money - I'm gonna need you to help me get this loan Lord so I can buy shit. Oh - and Lord, I'm the most advanced and capable of all of your creations but PLEASE think for me too so I don't have to do it on my own." SAVE IT!!! If there is a God, she set things in motion for us to EXIST and for us as people to figure the rest out on our own - and we as a people are failing miserably at that. Falling on your knees praying for God to help your neighbor when YOU are your neighbors neighbor - NOT God. If there is a God she is probably disappointed about thumpers asking for "help" for things that she has given you all the power to change on your own. I see it all the time when people pray... "God please help those that are less fortunate than we are.", then you get up and throw away half a plate of food b/c it didn't taste right. YOU HELP THOSE PEOPLE!! Stop playing yourself short and give yourself more credit sirs. People have missed the whole ship and it's disgusting.

PLEASE show me where I said I hate Christianity. I'd like to see that... and again, God has never let me down. I EXIST - that is fine for me and is enough for me. Don't try to see me man, that's too tall of an order for you --- trust me. Stick w/ what you think you know.

i lol'd...really i did.

[BABY J]

i lol'd...really i did.

Don't laugh --- Creman says that laughing is hostile.

[creman]

Don't laugh --- Creman says that laughing is hostile.

I'm sorry, I assumed you wouldn't need this considering you're so smart, and a self proclaimed genius.

Hostile \Hos"tile\, a. [L. hostilis, from hostis enemy: cf. F. hostile. See Host an army.]

Belonging or appropriate to an enemy; showing the disposition of an enemy; showing ill will and malevolence, or a desire to thwart and injure; occupied by an enemy or enemies; inimical; unfriendly; as, a hostile force; hostile intentions; a hostile country; hostile to a sudden change.

Syn: Warlike; inimical; unfriendly; antagonistic; opposed; adverse; opposite; contrary; repugnant.

I highlighted the ones that apply, to make it easier for you because obviously you're not as smart as you claim.

The funny thing is I just wanted a civil conversation, but you obviously can't do that so really there is no point in this being continued. I really do wish you luck in life, and despite that you may hate this I'm going to pray for you. good luck man, and I hope you find happiness. true happiness.