Quote Originally Posted by Frög
Agreed, you can't argue with those being true.. But those don't mean anything! Stock ergonomics? Who cares?
The people carrying them are all different sizes. You really going to argue that an adjustable stock is not a factor of combat effectivness? I would tend to think most CQB guys would say it helps alot, since they are all different sizes.

I may be willing to take a half point vs a full point for this one.

The red ones really don't matter in combat.. The fact that they added those comparing factors was to give points to the AR and an unfair advantage.. I mean, why didn't they add EASE OF DISASSEMBLY(sp?), DURABILITY/RUGGEDNESS, MAINTENANCE etc.. Things that matter! If they did, the AK would be the winner..
I disagree that they dont matter, but agree that the should have added maintenance in there. Durability goes under reliability in my opinion.

Also, isn't OPTICAL SIGHT SUITABILITY an added BS criteria when they already gave a point for the AR for RAIL ACCESSORY INTERFACE? That comes hand and hand! Thats a free point for the AR!?!?!
Disagree. Our rail system is seperate from the standard issue top rail for optics. Our rails let mounting and dismounting (just as easily) tac lights, ir lasers and a host of other things that give us an INCREDIBLE advantage, and advantage that is worth at LEAST 3 points lol. Optics is one thing, but accesories that make locating, IDing a potential threat and then sharing that information with others is a whole seperate ball game. IMO of course.

The Orange ones are also somewhat stupid.. In combat, most of it is done well within 200 yards which accuracy is the same.. Beyond that, use a sniper.. The AK's accuracy is more than enough.. Grenade launching? Sure, but we are comparing the rifle!
agreed somewhat.

About the video, I don't see how it can be biased.. Some fact can be, but the main message of comparing the AR and the AK isn't.. The co-designer is saying HIS gun that he designed isn't as good as the AK.. Shouldn't he be biased the other way?
He is just mad becuase his last name is sullivan. Not Stoner. Thats sad he is admitting that a Russian tank commander that had no engineering education out engineered him. I think Mr Sullivan and his son just wanted some attention


ok dammit, im biased. im going to bed. AR is still better for our military and the AK is still better for those miltarys/terrorists who cant afford ARs.

Ok u want the real winner here? HK416, no stfu