why.. the lowers arent hard to build.
why.. the lowers arent hard to build.
Only two men ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. Defend your rights or lose them forever.
didnt say they were lol.
do u have supply to build 5 lowers?
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
3 yes.. 5 no.. i am waiting on an order to come in.
Only two men ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. Defend your rights or lose them forever.
neither... AR10 FTW!!!!!
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So you know....Originally Posted by allmotoronly
Last edited by DaX; 04-30-2009 at 03:10 PM.
for plinking, AR15
for SHTF, AK
sorry an AR will not ever have the durability of an AK, period.
QFT
but i have something better..
IF SHTF I would go with the Saiga 12
Sorry.. but pretty much on point....
Uhh, actually it can and is because now they make piston operation kits for the AR which makes it just as reliable, if not more reliable than an AK.
Life begins at 6000 RPMS.. You will notice an audible change in engine noise, large increase in acceleration and any female passengers will immidiately start to remove their clothing.
I'd have to see it to possibly believe it.
TOTALLY WRONG.
piston ARs are very problematic and UNproven. look up CARRIER TILT + AR15 newbie. a piston AR will NEVER EVER have the reliability of an AK, period. I also remember reading (@ arfcom) about the HK416s having defects with cracking.
I voted AK, mainly for reliabilty and punch.
The AR is kickass, but takes a lot of maintenance.
The AK can be tossed in the mud for a year, given a quick cleaning and goes to town, it just lacks the accuracy.
I guess it just comes to preference.
BTW the Ak with the 203 is just awesome.
Yeah, I really like both platforms. I'm not a big fan of .223, but it is plentiful so for SHTF, it would be a good choice. Really, my AK-47 is my zombie assault weapon. .308 is my SHTF long range weapon, and my Taurus 9mm my zombie pistol.
Last edited by DaX; 06-12-2009 at 07:37 AM.
^^^^I love the Saiga 12. My next gun purchase will probably either be a Romanian PSL or a Saiga 12 and get all the Tromix goodies for it.
This is HK's version of an m4 that's piston operated. Its called the HK 416. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZpZryZEiY4
Life begins at 6000 RPMS.. You will notice an audible change in engine noise, large increase in acceleration and any female passengers will immidiately start to remove their clothing.
If it's made by H&K, its bad ass. Period.
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AR's are no where near as unreliable as ppl make them out to be. Just putting that out there. 1 grain of sand will not cause a malfunction, contrary to popular belief. They do need to be lubed to function at 100%, but I lube and clean all my guns regularly, so that's not really an issue. And AK's are not inaccurate, they just don't have very good ballistics due to their heavy bullet. The 7.62 will have more drop and be affected by wind way more than the .223/5.56 round, especially at +200 yards. Both have their ups and downs and this debate will never be ended. It's like the 9mm/40/45 debate, or the 1911 vs. 45 long colt debate.
GAU 5.. Had to throw it in the race. It's the weapon we are issued.. Basically a M4, but has AUTO capability.
SiRed,
I did not mean the AR's are unreliable, just not as reliable as an AK, IMO.
I did have the chance to test a Russian full auto AK and a full auto M16 in the same day, both military versions.
My response was based on that test.
Both are kick ass, but I don't have much experience with the semi auto version of each.
I do plan on buying one of each though, sometime this year.
ak47 ftw
ak fo lyfe
AK is more than a weapon, its a symbol of various rebel factions around the world.
heres some of my collection: pardon the dirty carpet
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