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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    Thats funny because the very science you argue for proves that he existed. Whether or not you want to believe he was a higher being, Jesus was historically proven a real person.

    Any Theologist or Anthropologist / Archaeoligist will tell you that despite their religious beliefs.
    I bet you watched the show that talked about his remains on Discovery Channel and automatically believed it, because, well, Discovery Channel said it so it must be true.



    Right? Wrong!


    Even if they could find any remains, of Jesus Christ. How would they know he had special powers? Powers of healing and the power to bring people back from the dead?

    They can't! And wouldn't be able to.


    They could check it's DNA, but what would that tell you? They can't possible say that its dna is identical to God's himself.


    Plus, who's talking about Jesus? I was referring to God in my post.
    EDIT: After going back and reading what I posted, I can understand and see how you would think I was talking about Jesus. My mistake.

    Let me leave you with something interesting to read. Read it all, and let me know what you think. vvv

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    How does god feel about me pooping on my partner's chest during intercourse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adios
    I bet you watched the show that talked about his remains on Discovery Channel and automatically believed it, because, well, Discovery Channel said it so it must be true.



    Right? Wrong!


    Even if they could find any remains, of Jesus Christ. How would they know he had special powers? Powers of healing and the power to bring people back from the dead?

    They can't! And wouldn't be able to.


    They could check it's DNA, but what would that tell you? They can't possible say that its dna is identical to God's himself.


    Plus, who's talking about Jesus? I was referring to God in my post.
    EDIT: After going back and reading what I posted, I can understand and see how you would think I was talking about Jesus. My mistake.

    Let me leave you with something interesting to read. Read it all, and let me know what you think. vvv

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2514360.shtml



    Nope, never watched it.

    But the overwhelming majority of people will tell you he is a real person, and just like i posted, not one necessarily with any kind of powers, just a guy named Jesus of Nazareth.


    and ofcourse you can't prove God's existence, Faith is the entire basis of it. Faith is what keeps so many coming back for more, but at the same time it pushes away so many from the church because they can't see or hear it. It all depends on the type of person you are and if you are ready to accept something like that.


    I personally don't know for sure that my religion is true, but i do not understand why someone would despite its factual basis WANT to believe something like there is no God and there is no point to life. If thats your idealism then why not just roll over and give up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    Nope, never watched it.

    But the overwhelming majority of people will tell you he is a real person, and just like i posted, not one necessarily with any kind of powers, just a guy named Jesus of Nazareth.


    and ofcourse you can't prove God's existence, Faith is the entire basis of it. Faith is what keeps so many coming back for more, but at the same time it pushes away so many from the church because they can't see or hear it. It all depends on the type of person you are and if you are ready to accept something like that.


    I personally don't know for sure that my religion is true, but i do not understand why someone would despite its factual basis WANT to believe something like there is no God and there is no point to life. If thats your idealism then why not just roll over and give up?
    It's not. All I want is to gain more knowledge and to see actually facts of this higher being.

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    Oops...dbl post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adios
    It's not. All I want is to gain more knowledge and to see actually facts of this higher being.



    I respect that because everyone does.



    But by questioning other people all you will do is find more babble and more run around answers. Only you know the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    I respect that because everyone does.



    But by questioning other people all you will do is find more babble and more run around answers. Only you know the answer.
    Questioning people is generally the best way not to end up completely misinformed and ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The12lber
    Questioning people is generally the best way not to end up completely misinformed and ignorant.



    yea on just about every other topic.





    But no matter how many facts and historical evidence you can find to reaffirm yourself, the core value is still faith no matter how little or how much you know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    the core value is still faith no matter how little or how much you know.
    In Biblical Christianity (as authored by Christ) faith is worthless without subsequent action. In fact, the Bible says this..."What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?.....faith without works is dead....by works a man is justified, and not by faith only"

    If one is a Christian(follower of Christ) they will ACT upon that faith they claim, NOT just expect their 'faith' to save them. Asking questions, seeking truth, studying are all part of that action. Ultimately 'WHAT YOU KNOW' will govern your actions....so in truth knowlege is important...and even more important is living up to what you know.
    According to Scripture true knowlege is of God. Refusing knowlege is refusing God. Biblically, there is no way to separate faith from works and the subsequent knowledge that comes from those works.

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