DoD to release 9/11 video showing the Pentagon being hit

[Ran]

we knew about the pending attacks days before they occured, exactly like we did ab 9/11. if that was also so easily debunked then why have we gone back and forth for years over it. they were both terrorist attacks on US soil

The attack on Pearl Harbor was an act of war, not a terrorist attack. If you've ever seen a documentary on Pearl Harbor, you'll see that some of the spotters on the outer islands did in-fact report incoming Japanese, but they were discredited for the most part until just before the attack. Conspiracy? Highly doubtful. More like a lack of communication. After all, America still had a big head after whooping ass in WWI. We were untouchable until that attack. Then America was promptly handed a big slice of humble pie. Not saying that we didn't kick ass afterwards tho.

[Sport1.3]

The attack on Pearl Harbor was an act of war, not a terrorist attack. If you've ever seen a documentary on Pearl Harbor, you'll see that some of the spotters on the outer islands did in-fact report incoming Japanese, but they were discredited for the most part until just before the attack. Conspiracy? Highly doubtful. More like a lack of communication. After all, America still had a big head after whooping ass in WWI. We were untouchable until that attack. Then America was promptly handed a big slice of humble pie. Not saying that we didn't kick ass afterwards tho.

nathan, come on now. your giving the government too much credit. the pearl harbor attack was our window into world warII. it was well know the japanese didnt like us but they had no intentions of starting a war with us...no one did, like you said we were a world power after WWI. but as always we had bigger plans. the attack whether real or staged (a big conspiracy theory) happened and we knew it was going to. lot and lots of ppl lost their lives that day, all for the profit of big business. war stimulates economy, its as simple as that. there will never be a time when there will be peace, its how our system works. all you need is millions of mindless followers to becon at you every command, and how we do that is scare tactics. we scare ppl into action so they dont have time to think for themselves. an attack on our own soil is just the ticket to get us back into war and making the rich even richer. dont you think its alittle odd at least that the ppl that profit the most off of war times are the ppl leading the charge (metophorically...like they would actually ever fight for their own country..lol)

[Ran]

Oh course war stimulates economy. It always has and always will but it's not the point. Also, I'm giving the government too much credit? How so? I never credited a government source. I f*cking hate out government system. That's beside the point tho. Also, even before the Pearl Harbor attack, Japan was sending over bombs on pretimed ballons that would drop across the western coastline. The tactic? To start fires and such across the western borders so that we'd be too busy dealing with that to mess with Japan. Also, the government knew that it was happening but didn't take immediate action. Why? Because it had no interest in the war in Asia.

It sounds like you've got this huge beef with the government and I don't blame you. Hell, the system is jacked no doubt. Maybe you should go into politics and make a difference, rather than complain on forums.

Or do what I'm doing next year; leave the damn country and never look back.

[Sport1.3]

Oh course war stimulates economy. It always has and always will but it's not the point. Also, I'm giving the government too much credit? How so? I never credited a government source. I f*cking hate out government system. That's beside the point tho. Also, even before the Pearl Harbor attack, Japan was sending over bombs on pretimed ballons that would drop across the western coastline. The tactic? To start fires and such across the western borders so that we'd be too busy dealing with that to mess with Japan. Also, the government knew that it was happening but didn't take immediate action. Why? Because it had no interest in the war in Asia.

It sounds like you've got this huge beef with the government and I don't blame you. Hell, the system is jacked no doubt. Maybe you should go into politics and make a difference, rather than complain on forums.

Or do what I'm doing next year; leave the damn country and never look back.

maybe i am...

[illeagle]

nathan, come on now. your giving the government too much credit. the pearl harbor attack was our window into world warII. it was well know the japanese didnt like us but they had no intentions of starting a war with us...no one did, like you said we were a world power after WWI. but as always we had bigger plans. the attack whether real or staged (a big conspiracy theory) happened and we knew it was going to. lot and lots of ppl lost their lives that day, all for the profit of big business. war stimulates economy, its as simple as that. there will never be a time when there will be peace, its how our system works. all you need is millions of mindless followers to becon at you every command, and how we do that is scare tactics. we scare ppl into action so they dont have time to think for themselves. an attack on our own soil is just the ticket to get us back into war and making the rich even richer. dont you think its alittle odd at least that the ppl that profit the most off of war times are the ppl leading the charge (metophorically...like they would actually ever fight for their own country..lol)

if the plane was flying as low as they said it was then it would not have been picked up on a radar

Yes because its so hard to imagine that the government would do something like this? If it will kill its own president (Remember that guy by the name of JFK?) we would do this. Explain the insurance taken out on the 2 towers 2 weeks before the attack. Explain how bulks or airline stock were bought with a type of insurance that protects the invester from a big loss? Did you see the video that shows the implosions on the two WT towers as it started to collapse? People heard the implosion devices going off as they started to fall. A Plane would not have brought these towers down, they were designed to withstand these impacts, Dude, If you think we live in a country that our government has no blood on thier hands, you are in a fairy tale land. Vietnam was fought for one reason, MONEY!!! To make lots of it. The blood of how many soldiers are on the hands for that?

after 9/11 they did something on the WTC that showed why they collapsed. supposedly the beams in the center of the building were heated to the point were hot enough to bend, therefore collapsing the floors above, and the impact from the 30 or so floors falling on the others caused a chain reaction.

do not quote me on that because that was 4 years ago and I do not remember it that well

[Sport1.3]

if the plane was flying as low as they said it was then it would not have been picked up on a radar

it would have to have gone OFF COURSE to then fly that low. an immediate indication to surrounding towers that there is a problem. there would have been an attempt at contact and if nothing, they would have sent scouter planes just liek the payne stewart plane crash. it was a no fly zone, also a government facility, do you think they are that stupid to not have any way of keeping an eye to the sky around that area?

[illeagle]

it would have to have gone OFF COURSE to then fly that low. an immediate indication to surrounding towers that there is a problem. there would have been an attempt at contact and if nothing, they would have sent scouter planes just liek the payne stewart plane crash. it was a no fly zone, also a government facility, do you think they are that stupid to not have any way of keeping an eye to the sky around that area?

I was just saying lol, not speculating anything because I do not know

but then again...who does? none of us know the truth and this is all just jibba jabba, and I am sure the truth will not come out on a car forum

[Xan]

it would have to have gone OFF COURSE to then fly that low. an immediate indication to surrounding towers that there is a problem. there would have been an attempt at contact and if nothing, they would have sent scouter planes just liek the payne stewart plane crash. it was a no fly zone, also a government facility, do you think they are that stupid to not have any way of keeping an eye to the sky around that area?

Keep in mind, we weren't aware this was a terrorist attack until after it happened. Killing civilians is bad for business.

[Sport1.3]

Keep in mind, we weren't aware this was a terrorist attack until after it happened. Killing civilians is bad for business.

what civilians....there is not an ounce of proof that anyone was even on that plane. they never released any names of anyone that was on that plane. for fuck sake they wont even release the black box info, which would have explained everything. honestly the civilians have nothing to do with the profit that was made from this act..the "war on terrorism" was the bread winner in this one.~60 ppl are expendable, hell thousands are...sad but true.

[Xan]

what civilians....there is not an ounce of proof that anyone was even on that plane. they never released any names of anyone that was on that plane. for fuck sake they wont even release the black box info, which would have explained everything. honestly the civilians have nothing to do with the profit that was made from this act..the "war on terrorism" was the bread winner in this one.~60 ppl are expendable, hell thousands are...sad but true.

We weren't at war on Sep. 11, 2001. There is no proof supporting any of the allogations you just made either. You say that thousands are expendable, but it's not that simple. If the governement really is behind the 9/11 attacks why didn't flight 93 hit it's target? If you can provide ANY proof(Not assumptions) supporting the conspiracy theory that everyone has jumped on board with, then I'll jump right on with you.