Quote Originally Posted by ~The_Duke~
If I remember correctly the japense decided to fly a whole lot a planes over a military harbor that didnt know they were pissed at us and blew the shit out of our ships while they were still in port...it just means we didnt have a very good way of detecting incoming foes at the time...

History is very important but if someone or group of people is going to conspire againest us in a secret location or behind closed doors somewhere there isnt much we can do about it except for be prepared for the unexcepted.
As far as Pearl Harbor goes the Japanese had spies here, we knew they had spies here, they were in Pearl Harbor, scuba diving to see where things were underwater, taking inventory of the ships we had in port, planes we had there. So it is not as if we didn't know and were caught completely off gaurd on that one. Also, to throw another conspiracy on the fire. lol. JFK had begun removal of ground troops from Vietnam, he was going to completely pull out. He was assassinated with suspicious facts around it. When the office was filled by Lyndon Johnson troops were sent back to Vietnam along with more troops. Bombings on non military positions was constant. Bomb factories all over the US flourished, new business cropped up to support the "CONFLICT" in Vietnam. Hell they couldn't hire enough people to build bombs, ammunition, etc. Lyndon Johnson had very very strong ties to people in the Defense Industry that profited mightily every day we stayed in Vietnam. I am not a conspiracy theorist, however, I do not believe that our country is completely innocent of any wrongdoing at any time. Hell we dropped 2 Atomic bombs on crowded CITIES in Japan. Not on Military bases or missle silos but on the streets of downtown cities. The U.S. government infected a group of black people in an experiment on the effects of Syphilis, not a small group either. They were kept together in a large compound and watched while their brains were eaten by a deadly disease just to see what would happen. Our country is a great place. I love it dearly, although I do believe that we should question everything and even if we are called "unpatriotic", by not following the masses and finding out for sure with absolute proof, we are not only Patriotic we are doing what our forefathers would want us to do and that is to make sure that the government is serving our best interest and not just those who are in power.