DoD to release 9/11 video showing the Pentagon being hit

[aaronfelipe]

hmmm the truth will still be unknown ..

Yeah, it pisses me off

[Ruiner]

haha so does everyone else and there mother...haha doesnt mean shit... ever heard of how urban myths start. "well a friend of a friend" lol. my mothers aunt was killed on 911....she was on the 1st plane to hit the worldtrade center. they never found her body....the whole thing is BS...911 was americas footstep into war, whether the ppl here wanted it or not. just like pearl harbor. we were warned ab both. yet did nothing. until all the facts are found out...im not believing shit im told. no black box=no proof

No, I have a friend that works in DC, actually. He works for the CIA. I know this because the Dept. of Defense interviewed me as a character witness for him when he was applying for the job. He saw it...there is no urban legend in relation to my story.

Put the tin foil hat away, okay? How old are you? Are you an educated man?

[JITB]

no damage to the lawn... what happened to the wings again?

[Ruiner]

no damage to the lawn... what happened to the wings again?

Just read it. It answers all of your questions...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

[Nopaintsls]

I personally have a friend that saw the plane fly low overhead and heard the boom. He didn't see the explosion, but you get the idea. There are HUNDREDS of these type of witnesses by the way.

sure...

[Nopaintsls]

Just read it. It answers all of your questions...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

find a new source... plz you keep putting up these links that are in your favor...

[Sledlude]

Oh well. He can go here and look at the pics:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

it's "she".
and i'm checking it out thanks for the link.

[Sport1.3]

No, I have a friend that works in DC, actually. He works for the CIA. I know this because the Dept. of Defense interviewed me as a character witness for him when he was applying for the job. He saw it...there is no urban legend in relation to my story.

Put the tin foil hat away, okay? How old are you? Are you an educated man?

^im 22 with a bac degree in business management @TCU and finishing up one in mechanical engineering @SPSU. if you want to get technical ab the physics and strength of materials i can spin your head...i know for a fact that what we are being told is complete and utter BS. a plane may infact of hit the pentagon, but the facts and details as to how it happened are way outta wack, and the fact that so many ppl just blindly accept them as true is mind boggling. im not saying it was a missle or a plane. im saying that it wasnt a 757. and taking your facts from the internet though a good source of information is only allowing yourself the sight of one point of view. science as im sure your aware can prove or disprove your actual existance, so why would this be any different.....anything can be made to seem reality when enough wrong information is given to the masses...its caled propaganda

[Brett]

you pretty much showed me right there it wasnt that type of plane.the tail and wings dont disappear on impact, or come off not leaving even a scratch on the brick wall. i can mark a brick wall with a bat and it couldnt traveling that fast? where were all the seats and the wings/tail? where was the black box??which was never found or submitted. where are the burn marks on the grass due to exterior impact on the outer walls of the pentagon, where were all the dead bodies supposedly on board, why was it that, that part of the building just happened to be under constructions and having minimal amount of casualities, how could the plane of flown so low to hit that low and not hit cars or light poles etc.......

That is one of my MANY questions, that and why a line 2 days earlier like I said was painted on the grass that was the exact path the plane or whatever it was took. I hear interviews from people who made the parts of the plane and they say what was shown is not from that airliner. The FAA still shows the plane that crashed in the field still has a active FAA number, so we have 2 planes that crashed, yet no one saw the 2 actually hit, and the debree left from both are so minimal its like they just didnt exsist at all? To much doesnt add up, Im tellin ya.

[Sport1.3]

here is the vid...this looked doctored to anyone else? the plane is too bright and there is no shadow behind it like everything else in the video has??? there is also no debre following the plane showing that its actually made contact with ground as well as not in any pic is there any photographic evidence that the plane hit. there are not burn marks, pot holes etc showing a planes path

[Brett]

No, I have a friend that works in DC, actually. He works for the CIA. I know this because the Dept. of Defense interviewed me as a character witness for him when he was applying for the job. He saw it...there is no urban legend in relation to my story.

Put the tin foil hat away, okay? How old are you? Are you an educated man?

And you think someone who works for the CIA is not going to cover up for the government? Him working for the CIA just makes me question even more his story of what he saw, Not bashing your friend by any means, But its not like someone working for the CIA is going to tell any story different then what the government wants us to think.

Again, if it hit the lawn, where is the wings? Where is the impact marks on the lawn? How did all these cameras never actually see a plane? Where is the larger peices? How is there one huge peice that of course just happens to show a partial AMERICAN AIRLINES marking but its not burnt or anything, To me it looks like it was placed there, in public view so people could say it was the plane, The heat cant melt a whole fucking plane to nothing and leave no trace of bodies or anything, Just like flight 93 doesnt add up either.

Again, why was a line painted 2 days before on the grass that showed the same path a plane that we are told hit took? Kinda odd that line was put there 2 days before isnt it?

[Sport1.3]

^exactly...in every plane crash wreckage i have ever seen the tail end is usually somewhat intact...where the fuck is it here?

[Brett]

here is the vid...this looked doctored to anyone else? the plane is too bright and there is no shadow behind it like everything else in the video has??? there is also no debre following the plane showing that its actually made contact with ground as well as not in any pic is there any photographic evidence that the plane hit. there are not burn marks, pot holes etc showing a planes path

I dont even see a fucking plane there, A plane as big as that would show a bit more then that, to me it looks like a vapor trail heading to the building, Kinda like a missle trail or something, But hell if I see a fucking AMERICAN AIRLINES jet.

[Sport1.3]

see most the parts were still intact. the plane that landed in PA burned for much, much longer and still there was more wreckage to be found??!! :jerkit:

[Sport1.3]

I dont even see a fucking plane there, A plane as big as that would show a bit more then that, to me it looks like a vapor trail heading to the building, Kinda like a missle trail or something, But hell if I see a fucking AMERICAN AIRLINES jet.

well ill agree that whats in that pic is a plane...i just highly doubt that the film is completely untampered with.

[Ran]

Conspiracy or not, I fail to see what this video will do beside bring people to argue about more sh*t that happened in the past. I mean seriously. What's done is done. The Pentagon blew up as did the WTC. So now we're in Iraq doing our thing and what-not. The arguments about 9/11 will continue no matter what "evidence" is proven by either argument. Damn people, move on.

[Sport1.3]

^sorry man but thats pretty ignorant. history is very important. if you cant learn from past events then your future is doomed. if the government is infact plotting a conspiracy against its ppl then we need to know and change how we allow ourselves to be controlled. this is a debate not an arguement. noone is mad at anyone. its simply different opinions. whos to say something like this wont happen again if we dont expose the truth....oh wait this wasnt the first time...remember pearl harbor?

[Ran]

So.....Pearl Harbor was a conspiracy too? WTF?

I simply fail to see the point of arguing about old sh*t that's not going to make a difference now. If it turns out to be a conspiracy, then what? Are you going to overthrow the government because they can't be trusted? If it turns out to be true, then what? Probably won't accept it and argue about it anyway. It's all pointless blabbering to me.

[~The_Duke~]

^sorry man but thats pretty ignorant. history is very important. if you cant learn from past events then your future is doomed. if the government is infact plotting a conspiracy against its ppl then we need to know and change how we allow ourselves to be controlled. this is a debate not an arguement. noone is mad at anyone. its simply different opinions. whos to say something like this wont happen again if we dont expose the truth....oh wait this wasnt the first time...remember pearl harbor?

If I remember correctly the japense decided to fly a whole lot a planes over a military harbor that didnt know they were pissed at us and blew the shit out of our ships while they were still in port...it just means we didnt have a very good way of detecting incoming foes at the time...

History is very important but if someone or group of people is going to conspire againest us in a secret location or behind closed doors somewhere there isnt much we can do about it except for be prepared for the unexcepted.

[Chris Mazda]

well there really is no proof either way...the previous tapes showing impact definitly showed an object SMALLER than a plane hit the wall, but it was too fast to really tell. also the hole in the pentagon wall was way too small to be a 747.



shit links dont work.^^

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html

it was a boeing 757 bit of a size difference there ace

[99SI]

If I remember correctly the japense decided to fly a whole lot a planes over a military harbor that didnt know they were pissed at us and blew the shit out of our ships while they were still in port...it just means we didnt have a very good way of detecting incoming foes at the time...

History is very important but if someone or group of people is going to conspire againest us in a secret location or behind closed doors somewhere there isnt much we can do about it except for be prepared for the unexcepted.

As far as Pearl Harbor goes the Japanese had spies here, we knew they had spies here, they were in Pearl Harbor, scuba diving to see where things were underwater, taking inventory of the ships we had in port, planes we had there. So it is not as if we didn't know and were caught completely off gaurd on that one. Also, to throw another conspiracy on the fire. lol. JFK had begun removal of ground troops from Vietnam, he was going to completely pull out. He was assassinated with suspicious facts around it. When the office was filled by Lyndon Johnson troops were sent back to Vietnam along with more troops. Bombings on non military positions was constant. Bomb factories all over the US flourished, new business cropped up to support the "CONFLICT" in Vietnam. Hell they couldn't hire enough people to build bombs, ammunition, etc. Lyndon Johnson had very very strong ties to people in the Defense Industry that profited mightily every day we stayed in Vietnam. I am not a conspiracy theorist, however, I do not believe that our country is completely innocent of any wrongdoing at any time. Hell we dropped 2 Atomic bombs on crowded CITIES in Japan. Not on Military bases or missle silos but on the streets of downtown cities. The U.S. government infected a group of black people in an experiment on the effects of Syphilis, not a small group either. They were kept together in a large compound and watched while their brains were eaten by a deadly disease just to see what would happen. Our country is a great place. I love it dearly, although I do believe that we should question everything and even if we are called "unpatriotic", by not following the masses and finding out for sure with absolute proof, we are not only Patriotic we are doing what our forefathers would want us to do and that is to make sure that the government is serving our best interest and not just those who are in power.

[Sport1.3]

^nice input thanx michael

If I remember correctly the japense decided to fly a whole lot a planes over a military harbor that didnt know they were pissed at us and blew the shit out of our ships while they were still in port...it just means we didnt have a very good way of detecting incoming foes at the time...


History is very important but if someone or group of people is going to conspire againest us in a secret location or behind closed doors somewhere there isnt much we can do about it except for be prepared for the unexcepted.

we knew about the pending attacks days before they occured, exactly like we did ab 9/11. if that was also so easily debunked then why have we gone back and forth for years over it. they were both terrorist attacks on US soil

[Chris Mazda]

anyone who thinks that 9/11 is a conspiracy theory is completely fucking stupid. I hope this video puts morons like the guy who runs reopen911 in their place.

[Sport1.3]

^this coming from a Darwin award winner......go drowned yourself in the bathwater you uneducated tool

[Elbow]

i think someone else hit it with a missle hint the unmarked planes above and america is hiding that by saying it was hit with a plane so america wouldnt freak knowing there were missles involved.

[Ran]

we knew about the pending attacks days before they occured, exactly like we did ab 9/11. if that was also so easily debunked then why have we gone back and forth for years over it. they were both terrorist attacks on US soil

The attack on Pearl Harbor was an act of war, not a terrorist attack. If you've ever seen a documentary on Pearl Harbor, you'll see that some of the spotters on the outer islands did in-fact report incoming Japanese, but they were discredited for the most part until just before the attack. Conspiracy? Highly doubtful. More like a lack of communication. After all, America still had a big head after whooping ass in WWI. We were untouchable until that attack. Then America was promptly handed a big slice of humble pie. Not saying that we didn't kick ass afterwards tho.

[Brett]

anyone who thinks that 9/11 is a conspiracy theory is completely fucking stupid. I hope this video puts morons like the guy who runs reopen911 in their place.

Yes because its so hard to imagine that the government would do something like this? If it will kill its own president (Remember that guy by the name of JFK?) we would do this. Explain the insurance taken out on the 2 towers 2 weeks before the attack. Explain how bulks or airline stock were bought with a type of insurance that protects the invester from a big loss? Did you see the video that shows the implosions on the two WT towers as it started to collapse? People heard the implosion devices going off as they started to fall. A Plane would not have brought these towers down, they were designed to withstand these impacts, Dude, If you think we live in a country that our government has no blood on thier hands, you are in a fairy tale land. Vietnam was fought for one reason, MONEY!!! To make lots of it. The blood of how many soldiers are on the hands for that?

[Brett]

i think someone else hit it with a missle hint the unmarked planes above and america is hiding that by saying it was hit with a plane so america wouldnt freak knowing there were missles involved.

Yeah I forgot about the unmarked planes that were seen over head when the pentagon was hit, Kinda like if a plane was flown via remote into it (Which would then explain the painted line on the grass so it would have a path to follow maybe?) The unmarked white planes stayed in the area till the impact then flew off. They were in the sky when NO AIR TRAFFIC was allowed except for fighters.

[Sport1.3]

^another good point is that the area over and around the pentagon is a no flyzone. if infact a plane would be found on radar it would have been shot down miles b4 it hit the pentagon. there is no way your going to tell me they lost contact with the plane that long to have let it go off course that far and crash into the pentagon. i mean way smaller plans have been shot down or redirected when entering such areas, and with no warning. like that payne stewart's plane. it was picked up by the airforce moments after they lost contact with ground. everyone died onboard due to loss of cabin pressure. they werent in a no fly zone yet were picked up very soon after the passengers and pilots on board died. the airforce followed the plane on autopilot till it came down. so how is it this commercial plane did this in a no fly zone and marking much bigger on radar....doesnt add up.

[99SI]

One of the biggest things about 9/11 that always bugged me wast he FBI agent that did a field report on suspicious persons (Mohamed Atta) at a flight training facility in Florida that were learning how to fly commercial airliners but didn't want take off or landing training only in flight training. Gee can you get anymore obvious than that? The report was not followed up on even though it was given to superiors for further investigation.

[Sport1.3]

The attack on Pearl Harbor was an act of war, not a terrorist attack. If you've ever seen a documentary on Pearl Harbor, you'll see that some of the spotters on the outer islands did in-fact report incoming Japanese, but they were discredited for the most part until just before the attack. Conspiracy? Highly doubtful. More like a lack of communication. After all, America still had a big head after whooping ass in WWI. We were untouchable until that attack. Then America was promptly handed a big slice of humble pie. Not saying that we didn't kick ass afterwards tho.

nathan, come on now. your giving the government too much credit. the pearl harbor attack was our window into world warII. it was well know the japanese didnt like us but they had no intentions of starting a war with us...no one did, like you said we were a world power after WWI. but as always we had bigger plans. the attack whether real or staged (a big conspiracy theory) happened and we knew it was going to. lot and lots of ppl lost their lives that day, all for the profit of big business. war stimulates economy, its as simple as that. there will never be a time when there will be peace, its how our system works. all you need is millions of mindless followers to becon at you every command, and how we do that is scare tactics. we scare ppl into action so they dont have time to think for themselves. an attack on our own soil is just the ticket to get us back into war and making the rich even richer. dont you think its alittle odd at least that the ppl that profit the most off of war times are the ppl leading the charge (metophorically...like they would actually ever fight for their own country..lol)

[carrascopa]

lets use sense here people.. there is no conspiracy in regards to the 9/11 events..... it just really makes no sense ..




if you believe that the events that took place on 9/11 were set up by our government to go to war to get rich off oil n other shit.. than your an idiot!



bush would have to be almost as sick as hitler to pull that shit off...



i just dont see it.. what would the point be? to go to war with iraq?? come on.. ive heard it all....


to gain contol of oil???? i swear if that were the case than how come our gas is sooo damn high!


face it.. some terrorist extremist assholes jacked a few planes and crashed them into shit.. case closed

[Ran]

Oh course war stimulates economy. It always has and always will but it's not the point. Also, I'm giving the government too much credit? How so? I never credited a government source. I f*cking hate out government system. That's beside the point tho. Also, even before the Pearl Harbor attack, Japan was sending over bombs on pretimed ballons that would drop across the western coastline. The tactic? To start fires and such across the western borders so that we'd be too busy dealing with that to mess with Japan. Also, the government knew that it was happening but didn't take immediate action. Why? Because it had no interest in the war in Asia.

It sounds like you've got this huge beef with the government and I don't blame you. Hell, the system is jacked no doubt. Maybe you should go into politics and make a difference, rather than complain on forums.

Or do what I'm doing next year; leave the damn country and never look back.

[HyPer50]

anyone who thinks that 9/11 is a conspiracy theory is completely fucking stupid. I hope this video puts morons like the guy who runs reopen911 in their place.

Definatly agreed... It's what I've been saying the whole friggin' time, I am simply amazed and how many MORONS actually believe the US government somehow setup all this and attacked itself...

[99SI]

Something I always found funny, when Bush was running for president the first time he wanted the "missle defense shield". Many many experts on national security said that we would be much more likely to be attacked by terrorists on American soil than a missle attack. No one in the world had the technology nor the equipment to attack us with missles, not where we couldn't see well before hand anyway. He spent billions of dollars on that worthless shit. After 9/11 we never heard anything about this missle defense for quite some time. Although the money for it was being spent and development was still going on. I don't believe that there has been a successful test of this waste of BILLIONS to this date.

[HyPer50]

Something I always found funny, when Bush was running for president the first time he wanted the "missle defense shield". Many many experts on national security said that we would be much more likely to be attacked by terrorists on American soil than a missle attack. No one in the world had the technology nor the equipment to attack us with missles, not where we couldn't see well before hand anyway. He spent billions of dollars on that worthless shit. After 9/11 we never heard anything about this missle defense for quite some time. Although the money for it was being spent and development was still going on. I don't believe that there has been a successful test of this waste of BILLIONS to this date.

Missle defense? Are you referring to the "starwars" program, where they use lasers to destroy missles in midflight? if so, yes they have had succesful tests of it heh.

[illeagle]

nathan, come on now. your giving the government too much credit. the pearl harbor attack was our window into world warII. it was well know the japanese didnt like us but they had no intentions of starting a war with us...no one did, like you said we were a world power after WWI. but as always we had bigger plans. the attack whether real or staged (a big conspiracy theory) happened and we knew it was going to. lot and lots of ppl lost their lives that day, all for the profit of big business. war stimulates economy, its as simple as that. there will never be a time when there will be peace, its how our system works. all you need is millions of mindless followers to becon at you every command, and how we do that is scare tactics. we scare ppl into action so they dont have time to think for themselves. an attack on our own soil is just the ticket to get us back into war and making the rich even richer. dont you think its alittle odd at least that the ppl that profit the most off of war times are the ppl leading the charge (metophorically...like they would actually ever fight for their own country..lol)

if the plane was flying as low as they said it was then it would not have been picked up on a radar

Yes because its so hard to imagine that the government would do something like this? If it will kill its own president (Remember that guy by the name of JFK?) we would do this. Explain the insurance taken out on the 2 towers 2 weeks before the attack. Explain how bulks or airline stock were bought with a type of insurance that protects the invester from a big loss? Did you see the video that shows the implosions on the two WT towers as it started to collapse? People heard the implosion devices going off as they started to fall. A Plane would not have brought these towers down, they were designed to withstand these impacts, Dude, If you think we live in a country that our government has no blood on thier hands, you are in a fairy tale land. Vietnam was fought for one reason, MONEY!!! To make lots of it. The blood of how many soldiers are on the hands for that?

after 9/11 they did something on the WTC that showed why they collapsed. supposedly the beams in the center of the building were heated to the point were hot enough to bend, therefore collapsing the floors above, and the impact from the 30 or so floors falling on the others caused a chain reaction.

do not quote me on that because that was 4 years ago and I do not remember it that well

[R3RUN]

I believe the WTC was not part of a conspiracy. The buildings were never meant to withstand a plane of that size to hit with that much fuel on board. The collapse probably could have been prevented if the planes had hit much lower, but they didn't and no building can withstand a fuel fire like that.

Now the Pentagon is a little strange. Here you have one of the most heavily guarded places in the U.S. supposedly hit by a commercial airliner. I am pretty sure that Pentagon officials would have been notified when a plane was headed into their no fly zone and they would have responded by at least sending up fighters to intercept the plane. Why didnt this happen? The only people that know for sure will probably never tell. It would make sense that something could fly into the Pentagon though if the officials knew about it or had planned it themselves.

Also in all videos I have seen the "plane" is moving extremely fast. If cameras in slow-motion have a hard time seeing what happend what good is the human eye? One light post on the ground is not very convincing evidence that a plane went by either. With a wingspan that is well over 100 feet long a plane would have taken out more than one light post and possibly hit that large road sign in the background of one of the pictures. Then there is the wings. Where did they go? If the plane hit ground the wings should be near by right? I have yet to see a picture of wings on the ground outside the Pentagon. If the wings hit the building you would see one hell of a hole. Think about it, (I believe this is true but am not sure) the wings of an airliner hold the fuel for the trip. Therefore a large amount of fuel would have hit the building and ignited in a rather large explosion spread out over say 100 feet. This would probably have had enough force to knock a wall if the wing itself didnt.

Anyway just some things I thought about.

[Sport1.3]

Oh course war stimulates economy. It always has and always will but it's not the point. Also, I'm giving the government too much credit? How so? I never credited a government source. I f*cking hate out government system. That's beside the point tho. Also, even before the Pearl Harbor attack, Japan was sending over bombs on pretimed ballons that would drop across the western coastline. The tactic? To start fires and such across the western borders so that we'd be too busy dealing with that to mess with Japan. Also, the government knew that it was happening but didn't take immediate action. Why? Because it had no interest in the war in Asia.

It sounds like you've got this huge beef with the government and I don't blame you. Hell, the system is jacked no doubt. Maybe you should go into politics and make a difference, rather than complain on forums.

Or do what I'm doing next year; leave the damn country and never look back.

maybe i am...

[99SI]

Missle defense? Are you referring to the "starwars" program, where they use lasers to destroy missles in midflight? if so, yes they have had succesful tests of it heh.

No, Starwars was Reagan and that never got into a testing phase, just a stupid ass idea. The Missle Defense Shield was Bush's baby and that involved shooting an incoming missle with a missle of our own. That has been tested twice now and has never been able to intercept the dummy missle that they were trying to hit.