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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    My problem here is that everything powerwise that I have stated has been proven.
    It has been proven that a ka24 can make 500whp pump gas stock head
    It has been proven a 500whp sr20 can't be seen w/o a built head

    Also has been proven that a ka24 will make power down lower along with extra tq that the sr20 can't find
    this closes my argument

    do you see why I am arguing now?
    You were initially arguing an SR20 being good for drag racing. They've been everywhere from 19 seconds in the 1/4 mile to 6 seconds in the 1/4 mile, where as the engines you compared have NOT been faster.

    Period. You lose, yet keep trying to argue pointless shit and not taking anyones answer.
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    An rb25/26 cannot and should not be compared to a sr20 when it comes to making power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    LOL
    There is a 1000whp KA on a stock block (not pistons/rods) and crank
    go to ka-t.org and educated yourself
    GTFO
    What the fuck is your point? Dear God you are retarded as hell.
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    Are you a troll or a female. Answer truthfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    You were initially arguing an SR20 being good for drag racing. They've been everywhere from 19 seconds in the 1/4 mile to 6 seconds in the 1/4 mile, where as the engines you compared have NOT been faster.

    Period. You lose, yet keep trying to argue pointless shit and not taking anyones answer.
    being good and being better than another motor are 2 different things.
    Is it a good motor? yes
    will it make more power than the other motors with the same work? NO
    ask the people that build and tune this motors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    being good and being better than another motor are 2 different things.
    Is it a good motor? yes
    will it make more power than the other motors with the same work? NO
    ask the people that build and tune this motors.
    You said it wasn't any good for drag racing, you God damn female troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    You said it wasn't any good for drag racing, you God damn female troll.
    please quote that. I said it wasn't better than the other motors

    this is how you are "attempting" by twisting my words

    You contradicted yourself kid.
    get off IA and take care of your wife before someone else does

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    THE KA24 has been proven to make more power with less so have the other 2 motors
    I'm not saying bigger is better. In the 4 motors I have stated yes it is better
    If the sr20 guys are happy at 2.0 why do they all go 2.1/2.2/2.3 when they sleeve?
    If size wasn't a factor and if the turbo is the replacement for the displacement why not leave it 2.0 and run an extra psi or 2 to make up for it?


    have a nice night guys
    So, basically, you arent aware that your block has to be machined to install sleeves? Hence, 2.0 has to be cut to a larger size, so you might as well install more surface area.

    There is limit to how much boost you can utilize until you run into you compress the air/fuel mixture to the point of ignition. If you have room to run up the boost, you can increase VE without adding cubic inches.

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    When someone that has actually been around ka24/sr20/rb25/26 builds and seen what they all can do chimes in I will elaborate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post

    There is limit to how much boost you can utilize until you run into you compress the air/fuel mixture to the point of ignition. If you have room to run up the boost, you can increase VE without adding cubic inches.


    Again you prove my point.
    That is why a rb26/ka24.rb25 will make more power than a sr20 lol
    once a sr20 hits 450whp it needs race gas? Why is that?
    do you guys not see?

    When all 4 motors are built and heads are ported/machined, the sr20 HAS NO FLOW ADVANTAGE. neither does it stock except with the ka

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    LOL. Comical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    LOL. Comical.
    you have no choice but to laugh
    you have nothing that is factual to add other than

    "the lsx will win because its badass"
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    you have no choice but to laugh
    you have nothing that is factual to add other than

    "the lsx will win because its badass"
    lol
    Where are your supporting facts that a SR needs race gas over 450whp? I just found 5 dynos of 600whp+ on pump gas from SRs.


    YOU have no facts, logic, or penis.
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    Post them. Please post where it states 93 octane (has to be legit)

    I will paypal you $10
    and tell sinfix to come run me
    I'll paypal you $500 is he wins
    im on pupmgas with a stock head btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post

    YOU have no facts, logic, or penis.
    obviously at least 2 more inches than you 5 1/5 inch cock LMAO

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    Again you prove my point.
    That is why a rb26/ka24.rb25 will make more power than a sr20 lol
    once a sr20 hits 450whp it needs race gas? Why is that?
    do you guys not see?

    When all 4 motors are built and heads are ported/machined, the sr20 HAS NO FLOW ADVANTAGE. neither does it stock except with the ka
    You've never built an engine nor tuned one, that's obvious.

    Race gas has higher octane and is used to allow the tuner to run higher compression. You could just install lower compression pistons and tune on lower octane fuel or convert to e85.

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    Also post a 500+whp sr with a stock head ad 93 oct?
    dont worry ill wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    Post them. Please post where it states 93 octane (has to be legit)

    I will paypal you $10
    and tell sinfix to come run me
    I'll paypal you $500 is he wins
    im on pupmgas with a stock head btw
    E85 is pump gas, stupid motherfucker.

    I don't have to post them because I feel you're at least capable to search 650whp SR20 E85.

    You may even stumble upon the ones with stock sleeve SR20s.

    Enjoy being stupid, because I'm done trying to convey logic to someone incapable of such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    You've never built an engine nor tuned one, that's obvious.

    Race gas has higher octane and is used to allow the tuner to run higher compression. You could just install lower compression pistons and tune on lower octane fuel or convert to e85.
    lower compression=less power per psi/more lag
    So the motor that maxes out on 500whp on pump gas will make more power than the one that can make 600whp on pump gas with the same compression?
    hmm

    in that case lets all build 1.4l motors and forget swapping bigger more efficient motors

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    Ive built an all motor gsr by hand in my garage that made 208whp (stock bore)

    Also the ka24 you hear me talking about. (not built by me)
    all parts, specs, and all were chosen by me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    E85 is pump gas, stupid motherfucker.

    I don't have to post them because I feel you're at least capable to search 650whp SR20 E85.

    You may even stumble upon the ones with stock sleeve SR20s.

    Enjoy being stupid, because I'm done trying to convey logic to someone incapable of such.
    lmao @ e85 being counted as pump gas.
    You clearly now everyone means 93 oct.
    again trying to make me sound dumb by twisting my words
    GTFO already you showed you have no knowledge of any of the 4 nissan motors being discussed
    now paypal me my $10 lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    lmao @ e85 being counted as pump gas.
    You clearly now everyone means 93 oct.
    again trying to make me sound dumb by twisting my words
    GTFO already you showed you have no knowledge of any of the 4 nissan motors being discussed
    now paypal me my $10 lol


    I photoshopped this to twist your words.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    lower compression=less power per psi/more lag
    So the motor that maxes out on 500whp on pump gas will make more power than the one that can make 600whp on pump gas with the same compression?
    hmm

    in that case lets all build 1.4l motors and forget swapping bigger more efficient motors
    You just don't get it or you don't want to.
    Lower compression by removing piston compression then increase boost to increase the compression back up but produce more power output.

    My 1.3L made 618rwhp. I know of 1.1Ls making over 650rwhp. Anything can be done.

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    so if a sr20 makes 600whp on pump gas
    a ka24.rb25/26 will make 800whp on pump gas
    sorry guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    You just don't get it or you don't want to.
    Lower compression by removing piston compression then increase boost to increase the compression back up but produce more power output.

    My 1.3L made 618rwhp. I know of 1.1Ls making over 650rwhp. Anything can be done.
    rotaries? or piston motors?

    you dont see my point.

    Sure a 1.3 can make 618whp 30k later
    a rb26 will make that with rods and pistons, turbo, and injectors nothing else
    see my point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    so if a sr20 makes 600whp on pump gas
    a ka24.rb25/26 will make 800whp on pump gas
    sorry guys
    You are so hung up on trying to be right that you are unable to lea rn how something works. Its really sad.

    Its not that what you are saying is untrue, it is that you have no idea on how it works and cannot state your positions in a proveable way.

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    Finally you admit what I a, saying is factual.
    I know why it works and why it makes the power. No explanation needed David.
    In this case We were discussing 4 motors specifically.
    What you explained is the reason why my statements are facts.
    My statements have also been proved..

    I know a b16 will make more power than a b20. Size isn't all.
    But, when motors are pretty much equivalent, size is all.
    Example, b16, b20vtec
    Example, sr20, ka24, rb25/26
    Why do the rb20 and sr20 make around the same power levels usually?
    Why does noone care about the ca18?

    That was my point that is all. It wasn't meant to be dragged like it did.
    Look at my original argument and you see I am stating the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    rotaries? or piston motors?

    you dont see my point.

    Sure a 1.3 can make 618whp 30k later
    a rb26 will make that with rods and pistons, turbo, and injectors nothing else
    see my point?
    No one sees your point as you are unable to state it in any logical way.

    Here is fact. Volumetric efficiency is the only comparision that you need to make between the two engines. Either you understand that or you are over your head in this discussion.

    I'm done with this and going to bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    No one sees your point as you are unable to state it in any logical way.

    Here is fact. Volumetric efficiency is the only comparision that you need to make between the two engines. Either you understand that or you are over your head in this discussion.

    I'm done with this and going to bed
    I understand that.
    Thank you for proving that my statements are not wrong or ignorant
    Research the power these motors make with what turbos, builds, and gas and you will also notice what I am saying.
    Goodnight
    Im out

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    I was deff let down I thought I was going to get my ass handed to me oh well.

    Better luck next time sinfix
    Like i said.... i was honestly happy that you joined the thread. Talking to you is easier than talking to Nelson.

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    so guys, i actually saw Nelson's KA today and i have to admit....... it did have crazy torque... i guess i stand corrected. There's no way an SR20 could have got in and out of traffic like he was.....
























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    ImportAtlanta has a new village idiot..... his name is Nelson

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    I understand that.
    Thank you for proving that my statements are not wrong or ignorant
    Research the power these motors make with what turbos, builds, and gas and you will also notice what I am saying.
    Goodnight
    Im out
    Nobody sees what youre saying. Everyone thinks you're a moron. Every person who has came into this thread has said you were a moron.

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    What do you think Sinfix, troll or woman?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    What do you think Sinfix, troll or woman?
    I wish he was trolling.... but unfortunately.... he's probably sitting at home right now thinking everyone else is an idiot and not himself. Literally every single person who has entered this thread has called him a moron.

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    nothing else to discuss.

    /thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    nothing else to discuss.

    /thread
    You're right, nothing left to discuss, we all agree that you're a moron.

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    apples to oranges...

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    Looks like y'all are having a google war up in here lol

    Are we still stuck on what motor makes the most power ?

    It's pretty easy to grasp that bigger the motor the more power its capable of (depending who built it) this doesn't include rotaries as they are a freak of nature to be able to put out 700+ hp.

    I don't see why y'all are arguing? There might be a faster sr motor then a rb25/26 or 1j/2j; but I'm sure it would be much easier to build one of the other motors to run the same or better 1/4 times as the fastest sr did. It's all about suspension setup, reaction times, and the driver at the end of the day. Just because it has 1600whp doesn't mean something with 800whp hooking up can't beat it.


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    Hahah. I'm not going to read all 14 pages of this shit, but with some very light skimming, I got a good laugh from Nelson's "facts" and statements. I'm sure this will make for a good read later. Of course, this is with my general understanding of engines, and what I know...I am no professional engine builder or hot-shot tuner...but still....one doesn't have to be to see the shit spewing out on Nelson's posts.
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