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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    I believe you guys are just trolling me now. lets be real

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    God I wish sinfix still had his car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    I'm going to start a thread letting all the b16s guy know that they have hope.
    Why upgrade to a GSR?

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    so which one would you say has a better powerband?
    less boostlag?
    and which one would you chose to make 700whp.

    please answer my 3? so I can get out this thread

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    So a 1000whp b16 is just as reliable as a 1000whp ls7 given they are both tuned correctly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    Which one will be more reliable at 700 whp?
    That's easy. If the engine has enough block and component strength, and has an experienced and competent builder, with a tuner who understands how to tune for volumetric efficiency, then the motor should live without issue. In other words , both should be reliable as long as those conditions are met.
    You can't just say that one motor is always better than another because it is bigger. I see 363ci motors easily outrun 440ci motors plenty, and last longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    That's easy. If the engine has enough block and component strength, and has an experienced and competent builder, with a tuner who understands how to tune for volumetric efficiency, then the motor should live without issue. In other words , both should be reliable as long as those conditions are met.
    You can't just say that one motor is always better than another because it is bigger. I see 363ci motors easily outrun 440ci motors plenty, and last longer.
    THAT IS NOT WHAT IM SAYING
    the sr is an aluminum block (prone to warp)
    ka24 is iron

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    the 2.4 makes is already making more power at 3k, 4k, 5k, 6k, 7k, and also starts spooling 1k earlier
    how about now?
    Still too many variables unanswered. You are simply looking for someone to say that "bigger is always better", rather than try to understand the truth.

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    lmfao. This is sadly hilarious.
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    THE KA24 has been proven to make more power with less so have the other 2 motors
    I'm not saying bigger is better. In the 4 motors I have stated yes it is better
    If the sr20 guys are happy at 2.0 why do they all go 2.1/2.2/2.3 when they sleeve?
    If size wasn't a factor and if the turbo is the replacement for the displacement why not leave it 2.0 and run an extra psi or 2 to make up for it?


    have a nice night guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    THE KA24 has been proven to make more power with less so have the other 2 motors
    I'm not saying bigger is better. In the 4 motors I have stated yes it is better
    If the sr20 guys are happy at 2.0 why do they all go 2.1/2.2/2.3 when they sleeve?
    If size wasn't a factor and if the turbo is the replacement for the displacement why not leave it 2.0 and run an extra psi or 2 to make up for it?


    have a nice night guys
    Like Mazworx's 1000hp SR20 that is stock stroke and only .5mm over standard for the bore? Do you realize how little .5mm is as far as power is concerned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    Like Mazworx's 1000hp SR20 that is stock stroke and only .5mm over standard for the bore? Do you realize how little .5mm is as far as power is concerned?
    LOL
    There is a 1000whp KA on a stock block (not pistons/rods) and crank
    go to ka-t.org and educated yourself
    GTFO

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    LOL
    There is a 1000whp KA on a stock block (not pistons/rods) and crank
    go to ka-t.org and educated yourself
    GTFO
    What the fuck is your point? Dear God you are retarded as hell.
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    An rb25/26 cannot and should not be compared to a sr20 when it comes to making power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    THAT IS NOT WHAT IM SAYING
    the sr is an aluminum block (prone to warp)
    ka24 is iron
    Aluminum blocks are used all the time in racing. They are less prone to hot spots and can be easily sleeved. Heat is the greatest enemy of engines and aluminum is better until you get to extremely high hp cars.

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    Are you a troll or a female. Answer truthfully.
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    My problem here is that everything powerwise that I have stated has been proven.
    It has been proven that a ka24 can make 500whp pump gas stock head
    It has been proven a 500whp sr20 can't be seen w/o a built head

    Also has been proven that a ka24 will make power down lower along with extra tq that the sr20 can't find
    this closes my argument

    do you see why I am arguing now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    My problem here is that everything powerwise that I have stated has been proven.
    It has been proven that a ka24 can make 500whp pump gas stock head
    It has been proven a 500whp sr20 can't be seen w/o a built head

    Also has been proven that a ka24 will make power down lower along with extra tq that the sr20 can't find
    this closes my argument

    do you see why I am arguing now?
    You were initially arguing an SR20 being good for drag racing. They've been everywhere from 19 seconds in the 1/4 mile to 6 seconds in the 1/4 mile, where as the engines you compared have NOT been faster.

    Period. You lose, yet keep trying to argue pointless shit and not taking anyones answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    You were initially arguing an SR20 being good for drag racing. They've been everywhere from 19 seconds in the 1/4 mile to 6 seconds in the 1/4 mile, where as the engines you compared have NOT been faster.

    Period. You lose, yet keep trying to argue pointless shit and not taking anyones answer.
    being good and being better than another motor are 2 different things.
    Is it a good motor? yes
    will it make more power than the other motors with the same work? NO
    ask the people that build and tune this motors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    being good and being better than another motor are 2 different things.
    Is it a good motor? yes
    will it make more power than the other motors with the same work? NO
    ask the people that build and tune this motors.
    You said it wasn't any good for drag racing, you God damn female troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    You said it wasn't any good for drag racing, you God damn female troll.
    please quote that. I said it wasn't better than the other motors

    this is how you are "attempting" by twisting my words

    You contradicted yourself kid.
    get off IA and take care of your wife before someone else does

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    When someone that has actually been around ka24/sr20/rb25/26 builds and seen what they all can do chimes in I will elaborate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    THE KA24 has been proven to make more power with less so have the other 2 motors
    I'm not saying bigger is better. In the 4 motors I have stated yes it is better
    If the sr20 guys are happy at 2.0 why do they all go 2.1/2.2/2.3 when they sleeve?
    If size wasn't a factor and if the turbo is the replacement for the displacement why not leave it 2.0 and run an extra psi or 2 to make up for it?


    have a nice night guys
    So, basically, you arent aware that your block has to be machined to install sleeves? Hence, 2.0 has to be cut to a larger size, so you might as well install more surface area.

    There is limit to how much boost you can utilize until you run into you compress the air/fuel mixture to the point of ignition. If you have room to run up the boost, you can increase VE without adding cubic inches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post

    There is limit to how much boost you can utilize until you run into you compress the air/fuel mixture to the point of ignition. If you have room to run up the boost, you can increase VE without adding cubic inches.


    Again you prove my point.
    That is why a rb26/ka24.rb25 will make more power than a sr20 lol
    once a sr20 hits 450whp it needs race gas? Why is that?
    do you guys not see?

    When all 4 motors are built and heads are ported/machined, the sr20 HAS NO FLOW ADVANTAGE. neither does it stock except with the ka

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    LOL. Comical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    LOL. Comical.
    you have no choice but to laugh
    you have nothing that is factual to add other than

    "the lsx will win because its badass"
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    you have no choice but to laugh
    you have nothing that is factual to add other than

    "the lsx will win because its badass"
    lol
    Where are your supporting facts that a SR needs race gas over 450whp? I just found 5 dynos of 600whp+ on pump gas from SRs.


    YOU have no facts, logic, or penis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post

    YOU have no facts, logic, or penis.
    obviously at least 2 more inches than you 5 1/5 inch cock LMAO

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    Ive built an all motor gsr by hand in my garage that made 208whp (stock bore)

    Also the ka24 you hear me talking about. (not built by me)
    all parts, specs, and all were chosen by me.

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    Post them. Please post where it states 93 octane (has to be legit)

    I will paypal you $10
    and tell sinfix to come run me
    I'll paypal you $500 is he wins
    im on pupmgas with a stock head btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    Post them. Please post where it states 93 octane (has to be legit)

    I will paypal you $10
    and tell sinfix to come run me
    I'll paypal you $500 is he wins
    im on pupmgas with a stock head btw
    E85 is pump gas, stupid motherfucker.

    I don't have to post them because I feel you're at least capable to search 650whp SR20 E85.

    You may even stumble upon the ones with stock sleeve SR20s.

    Enjoy being stupid, because I'm done trying to convey logic to someone incapable of such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catnip View Post
    E85 is pump gas, stupid motherfucker.

    I don't have to post them because I feel you're at least capable to search 650whp SR20 E85.

    You may even stumble upon the ones with stock sleeve SR20s.

    Enjoy being stupid, because I'm done trying to convey logic to someone incapable of such.
    lmao @ e85 being counted as pump gas.
    You clearly now everyone means 93 oct.
    again trying to make me sound dumb by twisting my words
    GTFO already you showed you have no knowledge of any of the 4 nissan motors being discussed
    now paypal me my $10 lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    lmao @ e85 being counted as pump gas.
    You clearly now everyone means 93 oct.
    again trying to make me sound dumb by twisting my words
    GTFO already you showed you have no knowledge of any of the 4 nissan motors being discussed
    now paypal me my $10 lol


    I photoshopped this to twist your words.


    Can't tell if troll or woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    Again you prove my point.
    That is why a rb26/ka24.rb25 will make more power than a sr20 lol
    once a sr20 hits 450whp it needs race gas? Why is that?
    do you guys not see?

    When all 4 motors are built and heads are ported/machined, the sr20 HAS NO FLOW ADVANTAGE. neither does it stock except with the ka
    You've never built an engine nor tuned one, that's obvious.

    Race gas has higher octane and is used to allow the tuner to run higher compression. You could just install lower compression pistons and tune on lower octane fuel or convert to e85.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    You've never built an engine nor tuned one, that's obvious.

    Race gas has higher octane and is used to allow the tuner to run higher compression. You could just install lower compression pistons and tune on lower octane fuel or convert to e85.
    lower compression=less power per psi/more lag
    So the motor that maxes out on 500whp on pump gas will make more power than the one that can make 600whp on pump gas with the same compression?
    hmm

    in that case lets all build 1.4l motors and forget swapping bigger more efficient motors

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    Also post a 500+whp sr with a stock head ad 93 oct?
    dont worry ill wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson9995 View Post
    lower compression=less power per psi/more lag
    So the motor that maxes out on 500whp on pump gas will make more power than the one that can make 600whp on pump gas with the same compression?
    hmm

    in that case lets all build 1.4l motors and forget swapping bigger more efficient motors
    You just don't get it or you don't want to.
    Lower compression by removing piston compression then increase boost to increase the compression back up but produce more power output.

    My 1.3L made 618rwhp. I know of 1.1Ls making over 650rwhp. Anything can be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    You just don't get it or you don't want to.
    Lower compression by removing piston compression then increase boost to increase the compression back up but produce more power output.

    My 1.3L made 618rwhp. I know of 1.1Ls making over 650rwhp. Anything can be done.
    rotaries? or piston motors?

    you dont see my point.

    Sure a 1.3 can make 618whp 30k later
    a rb26 will make that with rods and pistons, turbo, and injectors nothing else
    see my point?

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    so if a sr20 makes 600whp on pump gas
    a ka24.rb25/26 will make 800whp on pump gas
    sorry guys

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