I'm trying to frame the parameters of your bullshit argument.Originally Posted by nelson9995
Why isnt a 305 better than a Rb26? it has more displacement.
I'm trying to frame the parameters of your bullshit argument.
Why isnt a 305 better than a Rb26? it has more displacement.
Some motors just weren't meant for top end. While the 305 is a Low Revving torque monster, the RB26 has a better balance and is more of a High revving, get going type of motor.
Internally, I know nothing of a 305 btw.
"get going type of motor".... well, i must admit it is going to be difficult for me to counter this profound wisdom on display here... but i'll take a stab at it.
Kind of how the sr20 has superior top end over the Ka24? or how the sr20 has a far more technologically advanced head and valve train design?
Also, previously you said...
You realize that the 2.4 isnt the actual "size of the engine" right??? you know that lengthening the rod stroke adds displacement correct?
oh no worries, im certain that nobody was under the impression that you knew anything.
Yes, also making a bigger crank.
I had a 305,lol
Ok, so what happens to an engines RPM when you lengthen the stroke?
There you go again. I Was simply talking about what makes more power.
Not about what is more technologically advanced.
They drop.
What happens when the actual piston is alot bigger and the crank is not too much bigger?
come on dude. quit quizzing me lol.
I know exactly how a piston motor works internally.
Ok, so you said a rb26 is better than a 305 because its more technologically advanced, even though the 305 is more displacement.
You also say a KA24 is better than an sr20 because it has more displacement, even though the sr20 is more technologically advanced.
Twisting my words again.
No.
I said the RB26 is wayyyy more balanced.
boreXstroke
Come on. You're twisting his words.
'92 C2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel | '96 240sx
Ok.... a 305 chevy's pistons are 3.7 inches... a rb26's pistons are 3.3 inches and it has 2 less of them....
so clearly a 305 chevy is better right?
Finally!
No, the Crank/rods are alot bigger. Therefore dropping RPMS, making it makes its power down low.
Would you take 480whp and 470 wtq?
or 480whp and 370 wtq and rev .5 higher?
305 = 3.7x3.4 .3 diff
rb26 = 3.3x2.8 .5 diff
How is the rb26 more balanced?
305 heads are made for tq and fuel milage,revs to 4k...max tq at 2k....RB is a performance built with better flowing heads,intake and ofcourse F/I....but I get the point you were making,just cause something is bigger doesn't make it better.
KAs are truck motors..end of story.
This is what im getting at...... just doing it VERYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY slowly, so that i dont lose Nelson along the way.
305 = greatest motor ever in the history of motors because it is the perfect balance between displacement and technology.
If you don't know that, you are clearly a dumb-ass and ignorant of the latest trends.
See what you do.
Fall out of topic.
I clearly stated 4 motors.
You brought a motor i initially told you I knew nothing INTERNALLY about.
What are you doing?
Are you trying to make me look bad by making me look stupid on something we are not discussing?
Or you know you lost the argument and are doing the above?
See what he did.
I'm no fool. I clearly told him I know nothing internally of a 305.
You dont have to know anything about a 305 to understand the point i am making.
you said "no replacement for displacement".... have we established that this statement is false yet?
I THINK he's trying to make a point with an example to prove you wrong with said arguement...
lol. Funny that you don't get that.
PS. you said you understand how a piston motor works, so you should be able to follow his train of thought.
'92 C2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel | '96 240sx
305 = KA
4valve 4.6 = SR20DET...lol
My argument is/was...
When it comes to making power under the same conditions, it went like this
SR20<KA24<Rb25<RB26
He took it out of context.
He initially lost the argument and took it somewhere else.
I do.
And I hae answered all of his question correctly internally about a motor.
I am now waiting on his response to my question.
Ok, so explain why the fastest car powered by either a sr20,ka,rb-anything... is powered by an sr20.
If only it were this easy for Nelson to follow.
Fixed :p
Stick to my original argument.
480, 470
or
480, 370 and .5 more rev for all out drag?
Those are your opinions which I understand and don't argue. That is personal preference you like one over the other, great!
My question is the above? please respond.
whos a better QB, Tom Brady with 3 arms or Aaron Rodgers with 2 heads?
Why won't you answer my question?
The question serves no purpose and leaves open far too many variables for any point to be made.
What if the 480 hp 470 tq was a ford powerstroke that peaked hp at 3200 rpm
What if the 480 hp 370 tq was a rotary engine that revved 10k rpm
I clearly stated .5 more rev. Meaning One revs to 9k, the other 9.5k.
yes, and this is a fictional scenario..... like Tom Brady with 3 arms and Aaron Rodgers with 2 heads.
How much does the vehicle weigh? Auto or manual? If manual, how many gears? If auto how many gears and what RPM stall? What size tires? What ring and pinion gear? 1/4 mile or 1/8th mile? Please post the dyno graphs so I can see the powerbands.
'92 C2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel | '96 240sx
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