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    Dont really care for a feedback nor a happy medium, plus I am drunk so don't really care for too much atm..



    Being a NICE guy sucks for too many reasons.. Girls complain that when they are in a relationship they are dating assholes and such and they want a nice guy. Well, being the nice guy comes with many things, for one is caring too much; having the emotions controlling/ruling thought patterns, So girls get mad when the nice guys are 1) don't have a backbone 2) paying attention to others 3) CARING

    My thing is how can you find a sliverlining? if your in that situation? being the NICE guy, is being able to please everyone... even outside your reach.

    I hate to give to the assholes but you guys get the things done, do what you can within your means; and being dick as well you never get hurt by acting thay way.



    Discuss I guess...


    EDIT: not thinking striaght

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAM0U5 View Post
    Dont really care for a feedback nor a happy medium, plus I am drunk so don't really care for too much atm..



    Being a NICE guy sucks for too many reasons.. Girls complain that when they are in a relationship they are dating assholes and such and they want a nice guy. Well, being the nice guy comes with many things, for one is caring too much; having the emotions controlling/ruling thought patterns, So girls get mad when the nice guys are 1) don't have a backbone 2) paying attention to others 3) CARING

    My thing is how can you find a sliverlining? if your in that situation? being the NICE guy, is being able to please everyone... even outside your reach.

    I hate to give to the assholes but you guys get the things done, do what you can within your means; and being dick as well you never get hurt by acting thay way.



    Discuss I guess...


    EDIT: not thinking striaght
    personally i dont think it is possible to please everyone and i have found that in the process of trying to please everyone, you wont be pleaseing yourself.

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    Drunk or not, excellent post and echos my thoughts precisely.

    I have come to the idea of never getting married and am very happy with that choice.

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    Yea and its ironic that most girls go for assholes no joke....I remember my dad tellin me he was a asshole when he was my age he was getin pussy left and right and my mom confirmed that.So thats why i am A REALLY BIG ASSHOLE LOL.................(just sometimes)





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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGodfather View Post
    Drunk or not, excellent post and echos my thoughts precisely.

    I have come to the idea of never getting married and am very happy with that choice.
    smart man. its jsut boyfriend n girlfriend with paperwork. signing the papers not worth it because then it gets hard to get rid of the troll you are attached too.

    I will NEVER marry again. that shit is dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSINXS View Post
    smart man. its jsut boyfriend n girlfriend with paperwork. signing the papers not worth it because then it gets hard to get rid of the troll you are attached too.

    I will NEVER marry again. that shit is dumb.
    Brandon don't let one bad experience dictate the rest of your dating life. Sometimes as humans, we get so wrapped up in feelings and "the moment" that we fail to see what's really going on until it's too late (i.e. after marriage). More than likely the red flags were present before you got married, but you two were so in lust that it was not clear to either of you at the time. I mean it's part of life. We all make mistakes and we learn from those mistakes. What you should have gained from this is another knotch of knowledge in your belt. You should know now that it takes time to really get to know someone for who they are. Just when you think you know them, take so more time just to be sure. Don't rush things. Being girlfriend/boyfriend for awhile is ok. As long as you two are together it shouldn't be a big deal whether you have papers or not. At this point in my life, I really don't even see the point of getting married besides the tax reasons behind it. Oh and the big fancy wedding and ring us girls dream of as children. But as long as you two have each other, isn't that what matters the most? People think that marriage is the answer, when sometimes it's the very thing that will ruin what you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesClues View Post
    Brandon don't let one bad experience dictate the rest of your dating life. Sometimes as humans, we get so wrapped up in feelings and "the moment" that we fail to see what's really going on until it's too late (i.e. after marriage). More than likely the red flags were present before you got married, but you two were so in lust that it was not clear to either of you at the time. I mean it's part of life. We all make mistakes and we learn from those mistakes. What you should have gained from this is another knotch of knowledge in your belt. You should know now that it takes time to really get to know someone for who they are. Just when you think you know them, take so more time just to be sure. Don't rush things. Being girlfriend/boyfriend for awhile is ok. As long as you two are together it shouldn't be a big deal whether you have papers or not. At this point in my life, I really don't even see the point of getting married besides the tax reasons behind it. Oh and the big fancy wedding and ring us girls dream of as children. But as long as you two have each other, isn't that what matters the most? People think that marriage is the answer, when sometimes it's the very thing that will ruin what you have.
    ill date seriously one day. but i will never marry whoever it is. but it will be years before i even date seriously. yea i got a lot of knowledge out of it. and one is not to marry. anybody can fake being a good person, but once that ring is on they flip. I will not take taht gamble.

    as for our generation, marriage is never the answer. Nobody knows what love is, and the values of a marriage, people are too selfish, schemers, ulterior motives,etc. Our parents had good values, and it died with their generation. The quality of women has gone waay down the drain,so I just adapt tot he circumstances and there isnt much out here i would even consider wifing up yet alone taking serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSINXS View Post
    ill date seriously one day. but i will never marry whoever it is. but it will be years before i even date seriously. yea i got a lot of knowledge out of it. and one is not to marry. anybody can fake being a good person, but once that ring is on they flip. I will not take taht gamble.

    as for our generation, marriage is never the answer. Nobody knows what love is, and the values of a marriage, people are too selfish, schemers, ulterior motives,etc. Our parents had good values, and it died with their generation. The quality of women has gone waay down the drain,so I just adapt tot he circumstances and there isnt much out here i would even consider wifing up yet alone taking serious.
    Sounds like you have become bitter (the one thing I hope to not happen to me). I think with time and healing you will maybe feel different one day. But I do have to agree with you on our generation does not know what it takes to make a relationship work. The main key is SACRIFICES! Not everyone can get what they want. Sometimes you have to give in order to get. People don't understand that people that have been married for 20+ years or whatever are still together because they had to put up with a lot of shit. Someone may have cheated some where down the road, but the other one was serious about their vows and made the relationship work anyway. People these days are so quick to give up when shit gets hard. Marriage is not always going to be pretty and bright. You are going to have days where everything looks grey and you feel like you can't stand the other person. It all comes down to how willing are you to do whatever it takes to make your relationship work? Are you really committed? That's why I say people should hold off on marriage. Wait until you are in your thirties (by then you should have enough life experience). Make sure you really know the person enough, know their good and bad qualities before you tie the knot. That way you know what you are getting into and how to better handle them and whatever life may throw at you two.

    I personally also think as humans as each generation goes by, we get lazier expecting things to be so easy for us (technology is an example of this). When shit doesn't go the way we expect it to, we give up. No one wants to work hard anymore (like our ancestors or parents). Everyone wants the easy way out of everything!
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    And the reasons why domestic abuse and divorce rates are so high is apparent.

    Women are prositutes. They want something, and unless you give it to them, you don't get any. They either want money, clothes, jewelry, whatever. It seems most women I have dealt with are selfish whores. They are concerned with themselves, and most of the time are in for love not money. And if the guy doesn't have money? They are getting something out of it.

    There is however a very very very small percentage who are just stupid and or sluts and are with guys who are complete losers. And an even smaller percentage who actually love the guy, but I feel that tiny percent is rarer and mostly from relationships in the 40s-70s.

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    The silverlining you are so called searching for is whether that guy is man enough to stand his ground. The reason girls are attracted to assholes is because they know that guy is not taking anyones' shit! It's all good being a nice guy (I mean what girl really doesn't want a nice guy?), but when you are too nice to where you are letting women run all over you, that's where it's gets to be a problem. As a nice female, I have that problem on a daily basis. I often let people run over me and tend to forgive them more than once causing me to be the fool and hurt in the end. You have to learn there is a place and time for everything. If something is going on that you don't agree with or not happy with, do something about it. Stand up for yourself. A woman that can run all over you does not respect you, the same goes for a man that runs all over a woman. Bottom line is, you can't always be "the nice guy" to everyone. Pick your battles. Is it worth losing something because you weren't man enough to stand up to another woman, or do you want to continue the rest of your life feeling like you are stuck in an ongoing cycle on being "too nice"?
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    be an asshole. period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hundo® View Post
    be an asshole. period.
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    girls dont want nice guys period. they love to complain so it cant be too easy for them. they want an asshole they think they can mold into a nice guy.

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    Dont let the woman walk all over you. Stand your stature but still compromise just dont let her always get her way. In relationships it's alot about compromise and if you let the girl run the relationship lol if she gets bored she will move on. Keep your game up, even when a girl says she dont like to play games in the relationship she will still play them alot of times... the truth. Depends on the girl also, some wont.

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    Hmmm, I agree with BluesClues. Pick the battles that are worth fighting.

    I have been the nice guy all my life, but I am also silly and assholish (new word). I don't tolerate ignorance at at all. If a chick has the mental capacity to get mad because I am too nice, then she can kick bricks. There is no person that is TOO NICE, you can't be TOO NICE. You can, however, be spinless/fearful/scared/bitchy/etc. Follow me? Most chicks have dated the 100% asshole jerk, who talks down to them and treats them just good enough to make them stay around. When a true gentleman comes along they see him as soft, and not MANLY enough. Tell the chick to keep it moving, for she is scarred!

    I am single now because I have chosen to truly find the woman I want. If our shit doesn't line up 80% from the jump, you get passed up and its on to the next one. No more time wasting on hopes and shit, lol.

    1) Be yourself
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    My confusion is this: Why do women want a guy to "take charge" all the time, but complain about the decision that is made. Mind you, I always ASK what they would perfer (type of restaurant, type of outing, etc.). Why the hell can't it be a group effort sometimes, SHIT! smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95 View Post
    Hmmm, I agree with BluesClues. Pick the battles that are worth fighting.

    I have been the nice guy all my life, but I am also silly and assholish (new word). I don't tolerate ignorance at at all. If a chick has the mental capacity to get mad because I am too nice, then she can kick bricks. There is no person that is TOO NICE, you can't be TOO NICE. You can, however, be spinless/fearful/scared/bitchy/etc. Follow me? Most chicks have dated the 100% asshole jerk, who talks down to them and treats them just good enough to make them stay around. When a true gentleman comes along they see him as soft, and not MANLY enough. Tell the chick to keep it moving, for she is scarred!

    I am single now because I have chosen to truly find the woman I want. If our shit doesn't line up 80% from the jump, you get passed up and its on to the next one. No more time wasting on hopes and shit, lol.

    1) Be yourself
    2) Respect yourself and your morals/beliefs
    3) Be CONFIDENT and DECISIVE
    4) When shit gets funky, pull out the air freshner on dumb asses (funniest shit I have learned, ever, lol)


    My confusion is this: Why do women want a guy to "take charge" all the time, but complain about the decision that is made. Mind you, I always ASK what they would perfer (type of restaurant, type of outing, etc.). Why the hell can't it be a group effort sometimes, SHIT! smh
    Those points listed are very good points! That is obviously his problem. He can't find a happy medium of making others happy and resulting in him being happy in the end. What he has to learn is you can't make everyone happy! Chose what is important to you, your happiness or someone elses? Him being too nice has resulted in this problem. He doesn't know how to stand up for himself without hurting the next person. That's why asshole guys succeed so well, because they don't give a fuck whether you like what they say or do. It is possible to be a nice guy and still stand your ground. You just have to find the balls to do it
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    Cry me a GOD DAMN FUCKING RIVER..JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

    Nice guys finish last is the BIGGEST CROCK OF SHIT.

    Get a girl other then a complete fucking whore and you will have no problem. God damn FUCK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Cry me a GOD DAMN FUCKING RIVER..JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

    Nice guys finish last is the BIGGEST CROCK OF SHIT.

    Get a girl other then a complete fucking whore and you will have no problem. God damn FUCK!

    Simon speaks much truth here also.

    Nice guys finish last because they many times choose losers as teammates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedem1 View Post
    ive learned that being nice is a good thing regaurdless.but when u are too nice fit hits the shan.there are definitely times when being a complete and total asshole is needed though.never let a woman put herself in a mans place.if you let that happen shit gets out of hand fast.getting to the point, treat them with respect but let them know who is running the shit, then things should flow rather nicely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95 View Post
    Simon speaks much truth here also.

    Nice guys finish last because they many times choose losers as teammates.


    I have repped you guys! Good points!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95 View Post
    Simon speaks much truth here also.

    Nice guys finish last because they many times choose losers as teammates.
    wow so wrong... let me correct that for you! Stupid guys finish last because many of the times they choose losers as teammates.


    Yes if your a nice guy and date a slut w/ class you usually will get stomped on also if you let them. Sometimes its hard to tell cuz alot of fine, classy women can still fall under the lines as slutty. My advice, date a woman that is career minded, quality worth, looks toward the future, isnt a goodlooking slut that needs different guys to supply her sex addiction. You dont prove your worth to a woman she will find it else where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greddypacked View Post
    wow so wrong... let me correct that for you! Stupid guys finish last because many of the times they choose losers as teammates.


    Yes if your a nice guy and date a slut w/ class you usually will get stomped on also if you let them. Sometimes its hard to tell cuz alot of fine, classy women can still fall under the lines as slutty. My advice, date a woman that is career minded, quality worth, looks toward the future, isnt a goodlooking slut that needs different guys to supply her sex addiction. You dont prove your worth to a woman she will find it else where.
    Stupid guys don't finish at all

    Seriously though, there are career minded women that have worth and look towards the future, but they can STILL not be the woman for you. You can still be too nice in their eyes.

    Many men and women are not the same in the work/career setting as they are in the social setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirMax95 View Post
    Stupid guys don't finish at all

    Seriously though, there are career minded women that have worth and look towards the future, but they can STILL not be the woman for you. You can still be too nice in their eyes.

    Many men and women are not the same in the work/career setting as they are in the social setting.
    Actually, sometimes those bitches are even worse than the whores.

    These are the type of women to more than likely be the "I'm an independent woman, and don't need a man holding me back" type. You get about......ONE mistake with them, and if it's one that ANY of their previous 400 boyfriends ever made, you're done.

    Like everything else in life, you gotta find that happy medium. A woman who's not an insecure slut, nor one that's some feminazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greddypacked View Post
    wow so wrong... let me correct that for you! Stupid guys finish last because many of the times they choose losers as teammates.


    Yes if your a nice guy and date a slut w/ class you usually will get stomped on also if you let them. Sometimes its hard to tell cuz alot of fine, classy women can still fall under the lines as slutty. My advice, date a woman that is career minded, quality worth, looks toward the future, isnt a goodlooking slut that needs different guys to supply her sex addiction. You dont prove your worth to a woman she will find it else where.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Cry me a GOD DAMN FUCKING RIVER..JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

    Nice guys finish last is the BIGGEST CROCK OF SHIT.

    Get a girl other then a complete fucking whore and you will have no problem. God damn FUCK!
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    Cry me a GOD DAMN FUCKING RIVER..JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

    Nice guys finish last is the BIGGEST CROCK OF SHIT.

    Get a girl other then a complete fucking whore and you will have no problem. God damn FUCK!
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    ive learned that being nice is a good thing regaurdless.but when u are too nice fit hits the shan.there are definitely times when being a complete and total asshole is needed though.never let a woman put herself in a mans place.if you let that happen shit gets out of hand fast.getting to the point, treat them with respect but let them know who is running the shit, then things should flow rather nicely.
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    there is a fine line between being "nice" and being a "puss"..the nicer you are the more you will be taken advantage of.a lot of women seek this in men.simply because they want someone that will give them whatever they want and not catch shit for it.nice guys just go for making the person they are with happy, thus forgetting about themselves which in the long run gets them hurt.A guy that willl stand up to her on the other hand thinks more for himself and ensures his happiness..Just dont let her take advantage of the feelings and relationship in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedem1 View Post
    there is a fine line between being "nice" and being a "puss"..the nicer you are the more you will be taken advantage of.a lot of women seek this in men.simply because they want someone that will give them whatever they want and not catch shit for it.nice guys just go for making the person they are with happy, thus forgetting about themselves which in the long run gets them hurt.A guy that willl stand up to her on the other hand thinks more for himself and ensures his happiness..Just dont let her take advantage of the feelings and relationship in general.
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    I hate guys who cry about girls, never date again because of some bitch, etc. I've been cheated on, I've been used, everything you've probably been through. A BITCH WILL NEVER FUCKING BRING ME DOWN. I will move on no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    I hate guys who cry about girls, never date again because of some bitch, etc. I've been cheated on, I've been used, everything you've probably been through. A BITCH WILL NEVER FUCKING BRING ME DOWN. I will move on no matter what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    I hate guys who cry about girls, never date again because of some bitch, etc.
    The nice guys/girls are always butthurt because they got done wrong. Which brings about the "nice guys finish last" statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett View Post
    I hate guys who cry about girls, never date again because of some bitch, etc. I've been cheated on, I've been used, everything you've probably been through. A BITCH WILL NEVER FUCKING BRING ME DOWN. I will move on no matter what.
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    its true that most relationship are gonna eventually suck ass.i believe its not beacause "it wasn't meant to be" its because the relationship wasn't properly controlled.there are those one in a million females that are honest.but the truth is, most of the women mow can't be completely trusted because the have whorish ways.i dont give a fuck who it is, the girl is gonna have the mind set that she is gonna going whatever she please.unless that is corrected and enforced when needed the relationship is going to go down hill.just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedem1 View Post
    its true that most relationship are gonna eventually suck ass.i believe its not beacause "it wasn't meant to be" its because the relationship wasn't properly controlled.there are those one in a million females that are honest.but the truth is, most of the women mow can't be completely trusted because the have whorish ways.i dont give a fuck who it is, the girl is gonna have the mind set that she is gonna going whatever she please.unless that is corrected and enforced when needed the relationship is going to go down hill.just sayin'.
    I beg to differ. Not every girl has whorish ways! There are still some of us left that truly do have good intentions. I've never been the one to wonder or cheat. I honestly give my all every time and I try my best to make things work. People normally give up on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesClues View Post
    I beg to differ. Not every girl has whorish ways! There are still some of us left that truly do have good intentions. I've never been the one to wonder or cheat. I honestly give my all every time and I try my best to make things work. People normally give up on me.
    well i guess ur one of the few.most women cannot honestly say they havent cheated in a relationship.the majority of them are just immature as hell and take shit for granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedem1 View Post
    well i guess ur one of the few.most women cannot honestly say they havent cheated in a relationship.the majority of them are just immature as hell and take shit for granted.
    That statement could apply to both females and males. Some people are just immature period!
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    It stank up in here!!! Kenny what was on YOUR mind lol.

    Nice guys don't finish last....nice guys just don't pick an equally nice girl. They pick the bitch that does them wrong. We all love the chase, a nice guy will chase and the not so nice woman will get him to keep running behind her. If you find yourself doing all the "work" i.e. putting forth all the effort (being "nice")....sit your ass down and re-think what you're doing. Nice people tend to forget about themselves.

    There is nothing wrong with being a nice guy/girl. Just stick to your guns and don't let anyone take advantage of your "nice-ness". When you do get that one person, there should really be no problems in the "nice-ness" category. Until then it's like Airmax95 said "on to the next one."

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    Quote Originally Posted by LizBiz View Post
    It stank up in here!!! Kenny what was on YOUR mind lol.

    Nice guys don't finish last....nice guys just don't pick an equally nice girl. They pick the bitch that does them wrong. We all love the chase, a nice guy will chase and the not so nice woman will get him to keep running behind her. If you find yourself doing all the "work" i.e. putting forth all the effort (being "nice")....sit your ass down and re-think what you're doing. Nice people tend to forget about themselves.

    There is nothing wrong with being a nice guy/girl. Just stick to your guns and don't let anyone take advantage of your "nice-ness". When you do get that one person, there should really be no problems in the "nice-ness" category. Until then it's like Airmax95 said "on to the next one."

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    thats good shit right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LizBiz View Post
    It stank up in here!!! Kenny what was on YOUR mind lol.

    Nice guys don't finish last....nice guys just don't pick an equally nice girl. They pick the bitch that does them wrong. We all love the chase, a nice guy will chase and the not so nice woman will get him to keep running behind her. If you find yourself doing all the "work" i.e. putting forth all the effort (being "nice")....sit your ass down and re-think what you're doing. Nice people tend to forget about themselves.

    There is nothing wrong with being a nice guy/girl. Just stick to your guns and don't let anyone take advantage of your "nice-ness". When you do get that one person, there should really be no problems in the "nice-ness" category. Until then it's like Airmax95 said "on to the next one."

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    OMG!!!!!!!!! I COULD KISS YOU! You are so hitting the nail right on the fucking head!

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