Then why are you getting upset? Did I say "ZeDFuNK" is racist? NO, so dont worry about it playaOriginally Posted by ZeDFuNk
Then why are you getting upset? Did I say "ZeDFuNK" is racist? NO, so dont worry about it playa
OUCH! that seemed like a racist comment, but dont mind me though.
a joke maybe?they're all legal and i always make fun of them. step off *****.
i have a hard time believing those figures, and those only show one side.
they dont show the positives that illegals bring.
They dont compare their data with other minorities like blacks, asians, etc.
Im all for getting rid of illegal immigrants, but i think these numbers are skewed
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so... does that mean you're not one? It never ceases to amaze me how some people can b!tch moan and complain about this country, while at the same time enjoy the freedom of living in it. feel free to row your boat back to whereever the fuck you came from.
The negatives heavily outweigh the "positive influence" (even though positive illegal alien influence is like an oxymoron) of illegals in this country. They need to just fix the problem. The Figures are fact..
It's sad when people get butt hurt and ignore fact.
You can argue opinion. You can even argue hypothesis. You cannot argue fact.
why was my name first?
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in all honesty it would be way cheaper for us to just go and take over mexico
You know better; next time will be a ban.
CUZ I DONT LIKE UR KAIND!why was my name first?
i have to disagree with you some what on this one... i mean i don't know how much but it is prolly way up there with those numbers
You know better; next time will be a ban.
you first, that's like taking over a porty potty.
wouldn't it be hard to build on top of shit?
^ but after we took over mexico think about it.. all the money that they send over there would stay in america and we could get cheaper labor and we wouldn't spend so much on boarder patrol and if they wanna come to america guess what they don't even have to leave their houses cause they are already there.
You know better; next time will be a ban.
It'd be like building on the set of Hellboy.
and who says we have to build anything?
You know better; next time will be a ban.
and we'd have a million more citizens and have to provide a million more LEGITAMATE jobs and have a whole new revolution about rights. Your idea sucks.
How so? think about it logically we spend more money that it is worth in the first place. i like most mexicans so don't go saying i am racist when i say this. but i think if anyone of them tries to cross the border illegally they should be shot. that is what they do in most countries anyways.
You know better; next time will be a ban.
guess what, 99.999999% of illegals would gladly pay taxes if u just let them...
According to the Center for Imigration Studies. In 2000 there were 7,000,000 illegal aliens living in the U.S. and that number grows by half a million a year putting us at 11,000,000 this year. But really that number is higher because in their studies they remove from the total number of illegals who either die during the year or who are sent back to the home country. Bringing that number to almost a million a year.http://www.cis.org/topics/illegalimmigration.html
And the census Beureau actually says that we were at 12 million last year. So For argumentative purposes lets call it 10 million. These 10 million illegals send approximately (according to a biased sitewww.noinvaders.org)$56 billion dollars (I buy it because every number I have ever seen is around $50 million)
Illegals now make up aproximately approximately make up 5% of the work force as well.
Some other things to think about:
Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.
Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).
With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services.
On average, the costs that illegal households impose on federal coffers are less than half that of other households, but their tax payments are only one-fourth that of other households.
Many of the costs associated with illegals are due to their American-born children, who are awarded U.S. citizenship at birth. Thus, greater efforts at barring illegals from federal programs will not reduce costs because their citizen children can continue to access them.
If illegal aliens were given amnesty and began to pay taxes and use services like households headed by legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual net fiscal deficit would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total net cost of $29 billion.
Costs increase dramatically because unskilled immigrants with legal status -- what most illegal aliens would become -- can access government programs, but still tend to make very modest tax payments.
Although legalization would increase average tax payments by 77 percent, average costs would rise by 118 percent.
The fact that legal immigrants with few years of schooling are a large fiscal drain does not mean that legal immigrants overall are a net drain -- many legal immigrants are highly skilled.
The vast majority of illegals hold jobs. Thus the fiscal deficit they create for the federal government is not the result of an unwillingness to work.
The results of this study are consistent with a 1997 study by the National Research Council, which also found that immigrants' education level is a key determinant of their fiscal impact.
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I bet the native americans wish they built a wall, the first white "americans" were the dangerous immigrants. If we did fix the problem with illegal immigration, the republicans will just make something else up to scare their children.
I hate to tell you, but those numbers came primarily from CNN if you look at the links. CNN is known for being rather liberal. I have a feeling that the numbers are conservative, if anything. If FoxNews published the same numbers, they would probably be more.
Just look at Grady Memorial. It is about to shut down because of so many people that aren't paying for their services. GA has one of the, if not the, highest growth rate for Illegals in the COUNTRY...the entire US in terms of percentages. The new law that bans companies for hiring illegals is helping to reduce that.
You can't argue with the facts. Illegal immigrating is costing the US billions a year. It's a problem.
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You hug a lot of trees, don't you?
AIM: RuinerTT
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What is your source for this? I'd love to see it.
FYI; illegal immigrants aren't the only ones that use Grady and don't pay for their services. Look at the average household debt of Americans, LOL!
I dislike leeches just as much as the next guy but let's keep the stupid, biased opinions to a minimum. Just because it says so on a website on the internet doesn't make it true.
When federal tax is witheld from an immigrants check do you really think they get that back? They're paying into Social Security, Federal Taxes, Medicare etc. furthermore they bring economic activity to the US economy.. not all immigrants come here and shoot every dime back to Mexico.
Also since they are not subject to minimum wages that tends to keep prices down so realize what you are asking for in getting rid of illegal immigrants expect a nice jump in inflation.
I dont support illegal immigration but I will call a spade a spade. In all of those statistics I can almost guarantee you the U.S results in a net profit from illegal immigration. (which is the reason why the government is not quick to resolve it)
This is a problem created by the U.S trust me.. criticizing individuals for trying to do what is best for theirselves and their families is hypocritical since we strive to achieve that very same thing every day.
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LOL, that country has way too many issues.
Why you think everyone leaves there to come here.
whos fault the immigrants or the government?
http://kerryfoxlive.com/wordpress/?p=2697
Georgia has the fastest-growing illegal immigrant population in the nation, more than doubling in the last five years, according to a federal report released Friday.
From 2000-2005, Georgia痴 population of illegal immigrants jumped to an estimated 470,000, an increase of 114 percent, a U.S. Department of Homeland Security report said.
The increase far eclipsed the state with the next-fastest growth Arizona which had an increase of 45 percent.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/01/31/illegal.immigration/
Although California is home to the most undocumented immigrants, Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina have the greatest rate of increase, the figures showed.
http://www.thedustininmansociety.org...2005jun10.html
Illegal immigration is a national problem and Georgia has one of the largest and fastest-growing populations of illegal aliens in the entire nation.
http://www.hispanictips.com/2005/11/...ing-in-nation/
鄭 report released Monday by the National Council of La Raza shows Georgia as home to the third fastest-growing Latino population in the country in 2004.
I can go on and on and on....
Illegal immigration is a HUGE problem in Georgia.
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2005 Nissan Pathfinder LE
Aside from complaining on the internet, what are you doing about it?
This is fun.
I don't want it to seem like I'm calling you out. This is to everyone complaining in this thread. You guys must be pretty proactive in helping with this devastating problem our country has, right?
Here are some tips for those that do not support illegal immigration.
Since so many of them use the money they make and send it back to their respective countries, I'd suggest the following:
Do not buy a house in Georgia. An illegal immigrant helped build it.
Do not use the landscaping services of a company that employs illegal immigrants.
Do not buy produce from a company/farm that employs illegal immigrants to tend to their fields/crops.
Do not buy Garrett turbos. They are made in Mexico. This will only help Mexican citizens save up enough money to come to the United States illegally.
This is just a short list I've compiled. I hope this helps with the epidemic.
So do you just not care about the amount of tax money you pay that goes to help out illegal immigrants?
You asked for proof that GA has the fastest growing pop of illegals in the US and I gave it to you.
What can I do about it other than to support the bills that ban illegals and/or their employers. Right now, there is a bill that was already passed that will penalize the employers. Apparently the rate has GREATLY slowed since this bill's inception a year ago or so.
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Of course I do. We pay more money in taxes each year than I care to think about. It's disgusting but what can ya do? Find loopholes.
I appreciate it. It was a good read.
I don't know the specifics but I'm pretty sure you only need to hire illegal immigrants that have a tax ID number, correct? Any illegal immigrant can get one of those.
Here is a good summary:I appreciate it. It was a good read.
I don't know the specifics but I'm pretty sure you only need to hire illegal immigrants that have a tax ID number, correct? Any illegal immigrant can get one of those.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...1/ai_n16718202
Here is the Bill that was passed:
http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2...text/sb529.htm
13-10-91.
(a) On or after July 1, 2007, every public employer shall register and participate in the federal work authorization program to verify information of all new employees.
(b)(1) No public employer shall enter into a contract for the physical performance of services within this state unless the contractor registers and participates in the federal work authorization program to verify information of all new employees.
(2) No contractor or subcontractor who enters a contract with a public employer shall enter into such a contract or subcontract in connection with the physical performance of services within this state unless the contractor or subcontractor registers and participates in the federal work authorization program to verify information of all new employees.
(3) Paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection shall apply as follows:
(A) On or after July 1, 2007, with respect to public employers, contractors, or subcontractors of 500 or more employees;
(B) On or after July 1, 2008, with respect to public employers, contractors, or subcontractors of 100 or more employees; and
(C) On or after July 1, 2009, with respect to all public employers, contractors, or subcontractors.
(c) This Code section shall be enforced without regard to race, religion, gender, ethnicity, or national origin.
(d) Except as provided in subsection (e) of this Code section, the Commissioner shall prescribe forms and promulgate rules and regulations deemed necessary in order to administer and effectuate this Code section and publish such rules and regulations on the Georgia Department of Laboŕs website.
(e) The commissioner of the Georgia Department of Transportation shall prescribe all forms and promulgate rules and regulations deemed necessary for the application of this Code section to any contract or agreement relating to public transportation and shall publish such rules and regulations on the Georgia Department of Transportatiońs website."
AIM: RuinerTT
2005 Nissan Pathfinder LE
bottom line. we need to get rid of ILLEGAL immigrants.. i dont care if people come into our country and gain citizenship from wherever whenever. But theses non citizens are coming in and reaping the benefits of CITIZENS and costing the CITIZENS MONEY! it's bull****.
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