whos fault the immigrants or the government?
whos fault the immigrants or the government?
bottom line. we need to get rid of ILLEGAL immigrants.. i dont care if people come into our country and gain citizenship from wherever whenever. But theses non citizens are coming in and reaping the benefits of CITIZENS and costing the CITIZENS MONEY! it's bull****.
just need to set up a 50 cal turret on the border and mow those bastards down
This threads really shows just which of IA's members are even remotely intelligent and which ones are just plain retarded bandwagon riding fools.
Illegal immigration is indeed one of this nation's biggest problems. There are many different facets, ALL OF WHICH were CREATED by OUR government's inability to think beyond their own feet. On one hand lynch mobs love to compile and get each other worked into a mad frenzy demanding deportation of those "damned lazy illegals", yet they themselves couldn't name the Secretary of Defense of their beloved U.S.A. if their life depended on it. The flip side of that coin is that illegal immigrants do indeed put a strain in a local economy by dredging resources legal citizens either don't get or won't qualify to receive. Is that fair? Certainly not. But if we're being honest.....there are literally tons of good ole red blooded citizens that are scamming that same system each and every day too. Why don't we tighten the noose on those leeches too?
It really comes down to two things from MY point of view:
1. Political correctness.
2. Votes.
Political correctness is doing far more to kill this country than any illegal immigrant ever will. Why? Because if our "leaders" are too scared to implement the laws that are already on the books or on the way, those laws are not worth the paper they're printed on. When our elected officials stop looking at all of us as merely cattle with a ballot in our hand is when the real wishes of society as a whole will finally start being met. As of now, special interests, large companies with deep pockets, and politicians that are scared to be real men and women are the ones that truly control this country. We are merely pawns in that chess game.
All politicians get up on their platforms and preach about what they are going to do when they get into office, but very very few ever DO what they promised once they get there. This is the reason why government should be smaller and not bigger. This is the reason why we should look in our own backyard and clean it up FIRST before even attempting to deport a large portion of the the entire country's population.
I am the first to say that it is not fair nor right for someone to come here illegally and then reap the benefits that should only go to those here legally. But we also must be intelligent about our execution of that idea. Merely picking up a torch and yelling "kill them all" or "go home" is accomplishing nothing but making the yodler show his/her small IQ. We have to do what makes sense. You can't complain that you got robbed if YOU leave the front door open. You have to close the door and lock it. Then you have to protect yourself from getting broken into again. THEN you have to deal with that thief that is still IN your house. You have to be deliberate and resolute in doing it. You can't stick your head in the sand and pretend that the burglar is not there when he is. It doesn't change the fact that he IS there, right? So we can't merely put a void where something previously was. It would create a vaccum effect. There are many multi-facetted ways of doing this, but all involve having people with spines to implement.
Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
BTW, our Secretary of Defense is Robert M. Gates.
I'm sure a lot of you had to go look that up....Exhibit A.
I wont lie on the secretary of Defense I instantly think Donald Rumsfeld but that was 2006.. I often forget that Robert Gates is the current and I still cannot commit the current Chairman of the Federal Reserve to memory as of yet either (Ben Bernanke)
Yeah, but I KNOW you are intelligent. Some of these guys I'm really wondering how or IF they even got out of High School.
We really should have an IQ test before handing someone a driver's license. More people would apply themselves then because God forbid they not be able to drive.....
I honestly doubt a lot of kids who post on IA graduated from high school. They get there GEDs; drive there EF civics and are content being ignorant.
LOL ain't that the truth..
or 350z's..
p.s. i thought it was rumsfeld too at first.. lol.. i always forget he retired.. however this is probably the funniest gif ever.
hahah stop crying already, you know im right... you failed, now please. stop replying and move on, i don't want to turn this thread into a maniac vs redgt one. i like this topic, put your two cents into my posts. id like to see what you have to say about them...
awww come on man your really makin me go all emo over here why don't you just post up "all the ****" you have on me and let's get it done and over with. So far I you were wrong on the PMS thing let's see what else your wrong about.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
haha relax dude, stop thinking about it too much... seriously. and it's you're btw...
ok this was your third opportunity SERIOUSLYT POST UP OR SHUT ABOUT ABOUT THIS "**** YOU HAVE ON ME"
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HAPPY?
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
A picture is a picture is a picture doesn't matter if it's on the internet or one a family member took unless YOU PERSONALY LIVED IT YOUR OPINION AIN'T ****.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
if my opinion is worth sh!t, than yours will be classified as non existed... ive talked to family members, ive been told storys, i know alot more about the issues of mexico than alot of you.. lol you being the number one.
great so then basically i know a lot more about the way West Point was 20 years ago because my dad was there and has told me every story about when he was there at least 3 times and because of the changes that have been made in the last 20 years West Point is a lot easier to get through thus making you a weaker soilder. So your telling me that because I have all these stories that makes me more knowledgeable and my opinon worth **** when i have not breathed slept ate been west point?
when it comes to **** like that unless you have lived it you just don't know.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
Thats exactly what im saying hahaha! and it's you're btw...
i lirl'd damn it. Bad habits are hard to break.IDK my personal opinon is you can be told all the stories in the world but it's one thing to hear about it but another thing to live it. Know what I mean?
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
Not sure if this has beene posted already...but...
THEY TOOK OUR JOBS!
They didn't take mine.
Right now I have a ****ty job working as a cook in a restaurant.
Because a mexican got fired.
LOL @ me taking their jobs.
Please listen to yourself. You are a moron in every sense of the word. Seriously, I've never talked to anyone over the internet as ignorant, irrational and just an overall idiot like you.Oh my god your still talking about that?
As far as you offering illegals banking services. Personally that's really sad because they aren't supposed to be here in the first place yet you offer them the same services as legal citizens. That makes you just as bad as someone harboring a criminal.
Hahahahahah!!!!
LOL @ you taking the job from a mexican that took our job in the first place.
Glad to be of service. To me how you can justify helping someone who is breaking the law? Let them keep their ****ing money in their mattress they aren't supposed to be here. period end of story. if they want to be here they can do it the legal way.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
Let me ask you a question:
If you have the choice between taking your car to a shop that charges $500 for something and takes 1 wk to do it vs. taking it to another shop that charges $1500 and takes 2 mos. to do it......where would you go?
Now, think about this:
You have made the trip to the U.S., started a family, are gainfully employed, pay taxes, and your choice is; A: pay thousands of dollars to get your paperwork started which could very well lead to your deportation which in turn means you'd have to LEAVE YOUR CHILDREN BEHIND because THEY are citizens and you're not, or B: stay real quiet and pay your taxes under a fake SS# you bought off some shady guy off Buford Hwy somewhere. What do you think most people are going to HAVE TO do regardless of what they WANT to do?
My point is that even when "illegals" TRY to do the right thing and apply for their paperwork it sometimes takes YEARS to get thru the system and even then there are no guarantees that it will be approved. If it doesn't get approved, they get deported. Talk about sink or swim, no pun intended.
So if the U.S. Government and John Q. Public wants some true immigration reform and results.....they can't make the lawful way so damn difficult and painful as to make it easier to go the illegal route. If you really want people to be here legally and pay their taxes and be counted, then damn it don't make impossible to do. Don't make people wait in a line until they're too old to walk. Don't make people jump thru a ton of hoops, only to then turn them down with no explainations. That's not fair, plus that person is going to tell 10 people who are then gonna tell 10 more and so on. Before too long, it will be part of what everyone believes.
Like I said, this issue is not as clean and simple as "go home" or "do it right or go home" as the media and politicians would have 90% of the population believe. If you've created a $hit storm for yourself by being a spineless coward before, don't try and fix it now by being a bully. It doesn't make it any better. Yes, hard choices have to be made, but you can't make them blindly. We have no real politicians nor leaders willing to do that. They all TALK a big game when they're in front of the cameras, but when it comes time to fix the problem for real they fold like a cheap lawn chair. It's a never ending cycle.
It happens everyday in our society. They're called lawyers. Doctors even tend to criminal's wounds. Government employees sometimes help criminals find jobs.
They all help "criminals" at times but it's their job. Are they also harboring criminals? LOL!
P.S. In case you forgot, you're a moron.
Ummm, this happens every single day BY citizens. Look at the welfare system. Do you think that EVERY person on disability is REALLY disabled? Do you think that every "baby mommas" really can't name their child's father nor get a job? Do you think that everybody that applies for compensation from an insurance company is REALLY as injured or at all? Open your eyes. This is what I mean by hypocracy. Everyone loves the buzz word of "illegal" immigration, but we have thieves stealing us just as blind every damn day of the week and twice on Sunday already. Why aren't we just as concerned about those millions of dollars being wasted? I'll tell you why. It's simple. Those millions are being wasted on and by CITIZENS, ie. votes. Piss them off and you get no votes. No votes, no cushy retirement plan. Get it?
See my previous post. It explains why you're being short sighted about this thought.Let them keep their ****ing money in their mattress they aren't supposed to be here. period end of story. if they want to be here they can do it the legal way.
YOU TOOK DER JOBS!!!!!!!!
Aww, you beat me to it.
Actually, I asked them. I tried to offer banking services to them so they don't have to keep money stuffed in their matress.So did you just go and check their legal status or something?
You're such an idiot. You're the same guy that swears by what a magazone article or an internet site says and you quote it as the end all truth. Go drive your girl car into a wall, please. You quote so many half-truths from random internet sites and whatever else you might come across and try to act somewhat knowledgeable on facts you know nothing about.
Oh my god your still talking about that?
As far as you offering illegals banking services. Personally that's really sad because they aren't supposed to be here in the first place yet you offer them the same services as legal citizens. That makes you just as bad as someone harboring a criminal.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10
giuliani for president!
DEY TOOK RRRRR JOOBBSSS!!
you forgot Maniac.
Resize sig area!
lol i know! i corrected myself later in the thread though
Well i hope you guys know there are more illegals then just mexicans in the USA. Alot of chinnesse people that cant drive, koreans, hmong, theres alot. the only reason the mexian stand out more is becasue where the ones building everything for you white people!!
yup, theres even africans and eurotrash
Also reportedly 100,000 Illegals from the middle east also
. Checks Yousef's green card.
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come onnnnn fairtax.org
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