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01-10-2008, 06:45 PM
DrewS2K

just need to set up a 50 cal turret on the border and mow those bastards down
01-10-2008, 07:29 PM
Jaimecbr900

This threads really shows just which of IA's members are even remotely intelligent and which ones are just plain retarded bandwagon riding fools.

Illegal immigration is indeed one of this nation's biggest problems. There are many different facets, ALL OF WHICH were CREATED by OUR government's inability to think beyond their own feet. On one hand lynch mobs love to compile and get each other worked into a mad frenzy demanding deportation of those "damned lazy illegals", yet they themselves couldn't name the Secretary of Defense of their beloved U.S.A. if their life depended on it. The flip side of that coin is that illegal immigrants do indeed put a strain in a local economy by dredging resources legal citizens either don't get or won't qualify to receive. Is that fair? Certainly not. But if we're being honest.....there are literally tons of good ole red blooded citizens that are scamming that same system each and every day too. Why don't we tighten the noose on those leeches too?

It really comes down to two things from MY point of view:

1. Political correctness.
2. Votes.

Political correctness is doing far more to kill this country than any illegal immigrant ever will. Why? Because if our "leaders" are too scared to implement the laws that are already on the books or on the way, those laws are not worth the paper they're printed on. When our elected officials stop looking at all of us as merely cattle with a ballot in our hand is when the real wishes of society as a whole will finally start being met. As of now, special interests, large companies with deep pockets, and politicians that are scared to be real men and women are the ones that truly control this country. We are merely pawns in that chess game.

All politicians get up on their platforms and preach about what they are going to do when they get into office, but very very few ever DO what they promised once they get there. This is the reason why government should be smaller and not bigger. This is the reason why we should look in our own backyard and clean it up FIRST before even attempting to deport a large portion of the the entire country's population.

I am the first to say that it is not fair nor right for someone to come here illegally and then reap the benefits that should only go to those here legally. But we also must be intelligent about our execution of that idea. Merely picking up a torch and yelling "kill them all" or "go home" is accomplishing nothing but making the yodler show his/her small IQ. We have to do what makes sense. You can't complain that you got robbed if YOU leave the front door open. You have to close the door and lock it. Then you have to protect yourself from getting broken into again. THEN you have to deal with that thief that is still IN your house. You have to be deliberate and resolute in doing it. You can't stick your head in the sand and pretend that the burglar is not there when he is. It doesn't change the fact that he IS there, right? So we can't merely put a void where something previously was. It would create a vaccum effect. There are many multi-facetted ways of doing this, but all involve having people with spines to implement.
01-10-2008, 07:48 PM
ZeDFuNk

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

This threads really shows just which of IA's members are even remotely intelligent and which ones are just plain retarded bandwagon riding fools.

Illegal immigration is indeed one of this nation's biggest problems. There are many different facets, ALL OF WHICH were CREATED by OUR government's inability to think beyond their own feet. On one hand lynch mobs love to compile and get each other worked into a mad frenzy demanding deportation of those "damned lazy illegals", yet they themselves couldn't name the Secretary of Defense of their beloved U.S.A. if their life depended on it. The flip side of that coin is that illegal immigrants do indeed put a strain in a local economy by dredging resources legal citizens either don't get or won't qualify to receive. Is that fair? Certainly not. But if we're being honest.....there are literally tons of good ole red blooded citizens that are scamming that same system each and every day too. Why don't we tighten the noose on those leeches too?

It really comes down to two things from MY point of view:

1. Political correctness.
2. Votes.

Political correctness is doing far more to kill this country than any illegal immigrant ever will. Why? Because if our "leaders" are too scared to implement the laws that are already on the books or on the way, those laws are not worth the paper they're printed on. When our elected officials stop looking at all of us as merely cattle with a ballot in our hand is when the real wishes of society as a whole will finally start being met. As of now, special interests, large companies with deep pockets, and politicians that are scared to be real men and women are the ones that truly control this country. We are merely pawns in that chess game.

All politicians get up on their platforms and preach about what they are going to do when they get into office, but very very few ever DO what they promised once they get there. This is the reason why government should be smaller and not bigger. This is the reason why we should look in our own backyard and clean it up FIRST before even attempting to deport a large portion of the the entire country's population.

I am the first to say that it is not fair nor right for someone to come here illegally and then reap the benefits that should only go to those here legally. But we also must be intelligent about our execution of that idea. Merely picking up a torch and yelling "kill them all" or "go home" is accomplishing nothing but making the yodler show his/her small IQ. We have to do what makes sense. You can't complain that you got robbed if YOU leave the front door open. You have to close the door and lock it. Then you have to protect yourself from getting broken into again. THEN you have to deal with that thief that is still IN your house. You have to be deliberate and resolute in doing it. You can't stick your head in the sand and pretend that the burglar is not there when he is. It doesn't change the fact that he IS there, right? So we can't merely put a void where something previously was. It would create a vaccum effect. There are many multi-facetted ways of doing this, but all involve having people with spines to implement.

:yes:
01-10-2008, 08:09 PM
Jaimecbr900

BTW, our Secretary of Defense is Robert M. Gates. ;)

I'm sure a lot of you had to go look that up....:rolleyes: Exhibit A. ;)
01-10-2008, 08:13 PM
tony

I wont lie on the secretary of Defense I instantly think Donald Rumsfeld but that was 2006.. I often forget that Robert Gates is the current and I still cannot commit the current Chairman of the Federal Reserve to memory as of yet either (Ben Bernanke)
01-10-2008, 08:15 PM
Jaimecbr900

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Originally Posted by tony

I wont lie on the secretary of Defense I instantly think Donald Rumsfeld but that was 2006.. I often forget that Robert Gates is the current and I still cannot commit the current Chairman of the Federal Reserve to memory as of yet either (Ben Bernanke)

Yeah, but I KNOW you are intelligent. Some of these guys I'm really wondering how or IF they even got out of High School.

We really should have an IQ test before handing someone a driver's license. More people would apply themselves then because God forbid they not be able to drive.....:rolleyes: ;)
01-10-2008, 08:18 PM
HalfBaked

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Yeah, but I KNOW you are intelligent. Some of these guys I'm really wondering how or IF they even got out of High School.

I honestly doubt a lot of kids who post on IA graduated from high school. They get there GEDs; drive there EF civics and are content being ignorant.
01-10-2008, 08:32 PM
ZeDFuNk

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Originally Posted by HalfBaked

I honestly doubt a lot of kids who post on IA graduated from high school. They get there GEDs; drive there EF civics and are content being ignorant.

LOL ain't that the truth..

or 350z's.. :ninja: :cry:

p.s. i thought it was rumsfeld too at first.. lol.. i always forget he retired.. however this is probably the funniest gif ever.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...heneyhands.gif
01-10-2008, 08:43 PM
Alan®

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Originally Posted by tony

When federal tax is witheld from an immigrants check do you really think they get that back? They're paying into Social Security, Federal Taxes, Medicare etc. furthermore they bring economic activity to the US economy.. not all immigrants come here and shoot every dime back to Mexico.

Also since they are not subject to minimum wages that tends to keep prices down so realize what you are asking for in getting rid of illegal immigrants expect a nice jump in inflation.

I dont support illegal immigration but I will call a spade a spade. In all of those statistics I can almost guarantee you the U.S results in a net profit from illegal immigration. (which is the reason why the government is not quick to resolve it)

This is a problem created by the U.S trust me.. criticizing individuals for trying to do what is best for theirselves and their families is hypocritical since we strive to achieve that very same thing every day.

In most cases illegals are not paid over the table which is what you are implying. Most illegals are paid under the table. Most get paid in cash and then come tax time the companies write it off as an expense which is why I don't see this new law working.

As far as the U.S. resulting in a net profit. I don't see how when most aren;t actually paying into anything.

I agree with you this defintely a problem we created for ourselves and the only way to solve it is to get tougher with the laws already on the books
01-10-2008, 09:07 PM
Jaimecbr900

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Originally Posted by redGT

In most cases illegals are not paid over the table which is what you are implying. Most illegals are paid under the table. Most get paid in cash and then come tax time the companies write it off as an expense which is why I don't see this new law working.

As far as the U.S. resulting in a net profit. I don't see how when most aren;t actually paying into anything.

I agree with you this defintely a problem we created for ourselves and the only way to solve it is to get tougher with the laws already on the books

Listen, you are being very narrow minded. I will attribute that to the fact that you're young and haven't seen or done quite as much yet. But you are absolutely wrong in your assumptions.

How many companies have you run? How many employees have you hired? How many times have you even issued a W2? So please, don't sit on your misinformed soap box and try to pass judgement on something you have no concrete proof about.

The reality is that there indeed quite a few illegals that get paid a regular check just like or me. They get deductions taken out too. Problem comes in when they DON'T file tax returns because their SS # is actually bogus. That is a problem. The real problem comes in from those that do get paid in cash which compounds the problem even further. What percentage is which? It's impossible for ANYONE to say since census nor IRS know crap since they're "counting" ghosts and collecting taxes from noone. All the figures are merely guesses. How can you say how many are here, if they won't be counted? How can you say just how much they contribute if they don't pay taxes? It's a double sided coin. You can certainly add up what benefits are being used up, but that's one side of the equation. Irritating, but only one side.

*edit* I hit the send button too early.

You need to look around a little closer. There are just as many lily white and carbon black losers out there sucking every last red cent out of our economy and not replacing it just like you claim illegals do. What is the difference? You can't choose where you're born or whom you're born to. There are just as many worthless AMERICAN BORN AND BRED leeches if not more than "illegals". A leech is a leech is a leech. What makes a citizen any more deserving of milking our politically correct system than anyone else? Wrong is wrong, right? Why not just try and keep EVERYONE from treating us like suckers? Because we have an escape goat wearing a sombrero and speaking a different language that is much easier to point the finger at to keep the spotlight off the lily white trash or the carbon black thief stealing the exact same things right out from underneath our nose right now.

Pick up a newspaper or watch TV on any given day. How many times do you see white people fleecing the system out of millions thru scams? How many times do you see a Black girl with 6 kids who has enough money to have a cell phone but refuses to get a job or name the father of her children so she won't lose her benefits? How often do you see Oriental people driving $100k cars, living in $500k houses, yet since their business is a strictly cash intake only make $20k on paper? I can do this all day. The point is that all of you that are so intent on blaming only one part of our society for taking advantage of the system really need to take a closer look around. The "illegals" aren't the only ones suckling from that teet. Recognize that FIRST and want to fix that FIRST, and then you will start making some headway towards a real solutions.
01-10-2008, 09:46 PM
Alan®

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Listen, you are being very narrow minded. I will attribute that to the fact that you're young and haven't seen or done quite as much yet. But you are absolutely wrong in your assumptions.

How many companies have you run? How many employees have you hired? How many times have you even issued a W2? So please, don't sit on your misinformed soap box and try to pass judgement on something you have no concrete proof about.

The reality is that there indeed quite a few illegals that get paid a regular check just like or me. They get deductions taken out too. Problem comes in when they DON'T file tax returns because their SS # is actually bogus. That is a problem. The real problem comes in from those that do get paid in cash which compounds the problem even further. What percentage is which? It's impossible for ANYONE to say since census nor IRS know crap since they're "counting" ghosts and collecting taxes from noone. All the figures are merely guesses. How can you say how many are here, if they won't be counted? How can you say just how much they contribute if they don't pay taxes? It's a double sided coin. You can certainly add up what benefits are being used up, but that's one side of the equation. Irritating, but only one side.

My post was based on my experiences I have worked 2 or 3 jobs involving illegals which in the grand scheme of things aint ****. But from what I have seen most illegals that are working out of sight like in kitchens in resturaunts are paid cash.So that answeres your first two paragraphs. YOu are right I haven't done a lot as I'm 19.

But the rest of your post is absolutely spot on :goodjob:
01-10-2008, 10:41 PM
Jaimecbr900

Quote:

Originally Posted by redGT

My post was based on my experiences I have worked 2 or 3 jobs involving illegals which in the grand scheme of things aint ****. But from what I have seen most illegals that are working out of sight like in kitchens in resturaunts are paid cash.So that answeres your first two paragraphs. YOu are right I haven't done a lot as I'm 19.

But the rest of your post is absolutely spot on :goodjob:

See, that's part of the problem here. There are lots of people that incorrectly feel exactly as you do. Sometimes they're right, but most of the time they are just stereotyping.

I get very frustrated when I see people who complain over some menial ailment and get "permanent disability" when all of us have to deal with 10x's the problems they do without a single hand out. I see just as many, if not more, blacks and whites that do just that, yet we hardly ever hear about a big reform plan to weed those sap suckers out. That's just as counter-productive as any illegal. Matter of fact, I know 10x's more citizens that weasel and cheat the system to get benefits they NEVER paid into.

Does that mean that we should let everyone just waltz in here and do what they want? Hell no. But before we go around pounding on our chests about how people take advantage of our country we should also look in our own backyard and pull up the weeds there too. ;)
01-10-2008, 10:47 PM
iloveboost

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Listen, you are being very narrow minded. I will attribute that to the fact that you're young and haven't seen or done quite as much yet. But you are absolutely wrong in your assumptions.

How many companies have you run? How many employees have you hired? How many times have you even issued a W2? So please, don't sit on your misinformed soap box and try to pass judgement on something you have no concrete proof about.

The reality is that there indeed quite a few illegals that get paid a regular check just like or me. They get deductions taken out too. Problem comes in when they DON'T file tax returns because their SS # is actually bogus. That is a problem. The real problem comes in from those that do get paid in cash which compounds the problem even further. What percentage is which? It's impossible for ANYONE to say since census nor IRS know crap since they're "counting" ghosts and collecting taxes from noone. All the figures are merely guesses. How can you say how many are here, if they won't be counted? How can you say just how much they contribute if they don't pay taxes? It's a double sided coin. You can certainly add up what benefits are being used up, but that's one side of the equation. Irritating, but only one side.

*edit* I hit the send button too early.

You need to look around a little closer. There are just as many lily white and carbon black losers out there sucking every last red cent out of our economy and not replacing it just like you claim illegals do. What is the difference? You can't choose where you're born or whom you're born to. There are just as many worthless AMERICAN BORN AND BRED leeches if not more than "illegals". A leech is a leech is a leech. What makes a citizen any more deserving of milking our politically correct system than anyone else? Wrong is wrong, right? Why not just try and keep EVERYONE from treating us like suckers? Because we have an escape goat wearing a sombrero and speaking a different language that is much easier to point the finger at to keep the spotlight off the lily white trash or the carbon black thief stealing the exact same things right out from underneath our nose right now.

Pick up a newspaper or watch TV on any given day. How many times do you see white people fleecing the system out of millions thru scams? How many times do you see a Black girl with 6 kids who has enough money to have a cell phone but refuses to get a job or name the father of her children so she won't lose her benefits? How often do you see Oriental people driving $100k cars, living in $500k houses, yet since their business is a strictly cash intake only make $20k on paper? I can do this all day. The point is that all of you that are so intent on blaming only one part of our society for taking advantage of the system really need to take a closer look around. The "illegals" aren't the only ones suckling from that teet. Recognize that FIRST and want to fix that FIRST, and then you will start making some headway towards a real solutions.

In case anyone missed it. Read again.

And Jaime, redGT just likes to talk about stuff he has no idea about. Don't mind him.

I worked for a couple of large banks a few years ago. Many, many illegal immigrants get paid in check form. Most of them had checking accounts too. Guess what... they paid fees on their checking and savings accounts which goes to thousands of employees pockets. Illegal immigrants attibute for BILLIONS of dollars in our banks that help pay for thousands of paychecks.

Will we ever know how much they help/hurt the economy? Probably not. One thing is for certain; complaining on the internet isn't going to change anything.

I remember when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. You wouldn't believe how many scamming AMERICANS were running around. Claiming their 2-year-old daughter's social security number to FEMA in order to get the $2,000 displacement check. It's disgusting.

What I find ironic is the people complaining about illegal immigrants are the same people that will hire a contractor that employs illegal immigrants because it's going to save them a few hundred bucks.
01-10-2008, 10:50 PM
iloveboost

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Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

See, that's part of the problem here. There are lots of people that incorrectly feel exactly as you do. Sometimes they're right, but most of the time they are just stereotyping.

I get very frustrated when I see people who complain over some menial ailment and get "permanent disability" when all of us have to deal with 10x's the problems they do without a single hand out. I see just as many, if not more, blacks and whites that do just that, yet we hardly ever hear about a big reform plan to weed those sap suckers out. That's just as counter-productive as any illegal. Matter of fact, I know 10x's more citizens that weasel and cheat the system to get benefits they NEVER paid into.

Does that mean that we should let everyone just waltz in here and do what they want? Hell no. But before we go around pounding on our chests about how people take advantage of our country we should also look in our own backyard and pull up the weeds there too. ;)

Truer words have never been spoken. :goodjob:
01-10-2008, 10:51 PM
Maniac1

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Originally Posted by HalfBaked

LOL, that country has way too many issues.

Why you think everyone leaves there to come here.

have you ever been to mexico? what parts are seriously jacked up with issues? please don't say things that you have nothing but pictures to back you up. the country itself doesn't have issues... it's the economy that has issues. money is hard to make over there, thats why alot of them come over here.

because it's easier to make money, its a better place to grow up in and a better place to make a future for you and your children. alot of mexican's don't really care about the country and only come here to make money, send it back to mexico and return once they have enough saved in their banks... those are the ones i dislike, i agree with americans when they talk bad about them(not on all the things, only on some) because the ones that come here and bring their bad habits over give the ones that actually want to make it here, a bad name...
01-10-2008, 10:56 PM
Jaimecbr900

Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveboost

What I find ironic is the people complaining about illegal immigrants are the same people that will hire a contractor that employs illegal immigrants because it's going to save them a few hundred bucks.

This goes back to hypocritically claiming that illegals are the only ones draining our economy. Like you said, if people really had the conviction they have when they're on that big bandwagon they certainly wouldn't hire a contractor that does that yet gives them a better price to prove a point. 99.9% won't, yet turn right around and complain about illegals.

Like I said, don't complain about getting robbed if you leave the front door open and unlocked.
01-10-2008, 11:01 PM
iloveboost

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Originally Posted by Maniac©

have you ever been to mexico? what parts are seriously jacked up with issues? please don't say things that you have nothing but pictures to back you up. the country itself doesn't have issues... it's the economy that has issues. money is hard to make over there, thats why alot of them come over here.

because it's easier to make money, its a better place to grow up in and a better place to make a future for you and your children. alot of mexican's don't really care about the country and only come here to make money, send it back to mexico and return once they have enough saved in their banks... those are the ones i dislike, i agree with americans when they talk bad about them(not on all the things, only on some) because the ones that come here and bring their bad habits over give the ones that actually want to make it here, a bad name...

I traveled through Mexico City and Puebla and a few other cities.

I wouldn't drink the water without boiling it, LOL!

I spent an entire summer visiting the town my mother grew up in. We stayed at one her friend's houses that still lived in the town. No running water, no bathroom/shower, no air conditioning (hah) or gas. 2 light bulbs in the 'house' with an average electricity bill of about $3 a month. Most of the electricity being used by a sewing machine the lady used to make money for food, electricity and other necessities. I had to even go and help pick corn in the fields (which were a 2 mile hike to get to), take it to be ground up and use it to barter for beans and other vegetables from other families. The 'house' was made of a mixture of cement, mud, wood and stones.

It was a very humbling experience. I definitely don't take things like running water for granted anymore. This was the point of our trip there, heh.
01-10-2008, 11:07 PM
Maniac1

Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveboost

I traveled through Mexico City and Puebla and a few other cities.

I wouldn't drink the water without boiling it, LOL!

I spent an entire summer visiting the town my mother grew up in. We stayed at one her friend's houses that still lived in the town. No running water, no bathroom/shower, no air conditioning (hah) or gas. 2 light bulbs in the 'house' with an average electricity bill of about $3 a month. Most of the electricity being used by a sewing machine the lady used to make money for food, electricity and other necessities. I had to even go and help pick corn in the fields (which were a 2 mile hike to get to), take it to be ground up and use it to barter for beans and other vegetables from other families. The 'house' was made of a mixture of cement, mud, wood and stones.

It was a very humbling experience. I definitely don't take things like running water for granted anymore. This was the point of our trip there, heh.

LOL! I can't argue about the water issue... :lmao:

but yeah, ive never been to mexico but i have seen pictures. from where my mom/dad grew up and some recent picture of how some of my mom's family lives over there.. my family all came from acapulco, which isn't as bad as other places, but still not all that great..

and yeah, after seeing the environment they grew in, i can see why they wouldn't want their kids growing up there. it really is sad when people automatically think that mexican's come here because they just felt like doing it... wrong, a better life and future for their children. is why...
01-10-2008, 11:49 PM
Lucky.

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Originally Posted by iloveboost

In case anyone missed it. Read again.

And Jaime, redGT just likes to talk about stuff he has no idea about. Don't mind him.

I worked for a couple of large banks a few years ago. Many, many illegal immigrants get paid in check form. Most of them had checking accounts too. Guess what... they paid fees on their checking and savings accounts which goes to thousands of employees pockets. Illegal immigrants attibute for BILLIONS of dollars in our banks that help pay for thousands of paychecks.

Will we ever know how much they help/hurt the economy? Probably not. One thing is for certain; complaining on the internet isn't going to change anything.

I remember when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. You wouldn't believe how many scamming AMERICANS were running around. Claiming their 2-year-old daughter's social security number to FEMA in order to get the $2,000 displacement check. It's disgusting.

What I find ironic is the people complaining about illegal immigrants are the same people that will hire a contractor that employs illegal immigrants because it's going to save them a few hundred bucks.

So did you just go and check their legal status or something?:thinking:
01-11-2008, 12:04 AM
Alan®

Quote:

Originally Posted by iloveboost

In case anyone missed it. Read again.

And Jaime, redGT just likes to talk about stuff he has no idea about. Don't mind him.
I worked for a couple of large banks a few years ago. Many, many illegal immigrants get paid in check form. Most of them had checking accounts too. Guess what... they paid fees on their checking and savings accounts which goes to thousands of employees pockets. Illegal immigrants attibute for BILLIONS of dollars in our banks that help pay for thousands of paychecks.

Will we ever know how much they help/hurt the economy? Probably not. One thing is for certain; complaining on the internet isn't going to change anything.

I remember when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. You wouldn't believe how many scamming AMERICANS were running around. Claiming their 2-year-old daughter's social security number to FEMA in order to get the $2,000 displacement check. It's disgusting.

What I find ironic is the people complaining about illegal immigrants are the same people that will hire a contractor that employs illegal immigrants because it's going to save them a few hundred bucks.

Did i ever claim to know everything or anything about this issue? No. I simply stated my experiences and some research that I had done. Issues like this are not cut and dry they have LOTS of angles that have to be looked at. What the **** is your problem. I have contributed a great deal to other threads this is one issue that I do not know about but am learning about.
01-11-2008, 12:06 AM
Maniac1

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Originally Posted by redGT

I have contributed a great deal to other threads

proof or it didn't happen, and by proof i mean, link..
01-11-2008, 12:07 AM
SampaGuy

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Originally Posted by Lucky.

So did you just go and check their legal status or something?:thinking:

i personally know one who gets paid by check. and after 12 years here his greencard should be coming out this october :cheers:
01-11-2008, 12:15 AM
Alan®

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Originally Posted by Maniac©

proof or it didn't happen, and by proof i mean, link..

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...llege+students

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...llege+students

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...+hogan+divorce
01-11-2008, 12:21 AM
SampaGuy

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Originally Posted by Maniac©

proof or it didn't happen, and by proof i mean, link..

heres a good one

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...d.php?t=155218
01-11-2008, 12:26 AM
Alan®

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Originally Posted by plv

heres a good one

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...d.php?t=155218

lol yea i neglected to actually read the link. i just figured it was the same old **** but i was wrong.
01-11-2008, 12:29 AM
Maniac1

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Originally Posted by plv

heres a good one

http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/...d.php?t=155218

hahaha repped!

redGT, all i saw in those threads, were you crying about issues that'll effect your life, you failed, again.
01-11-2008, 12:32 AM
Alan®

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Originally Posted by Maniac©

hahaha repped!

redGT, all i saw in those threads, were you crying about issues that'll effect your life, you failed, again.

:gay: Ok whatever :rolleyes: In all of those threads I didn't show any useful information that could be used by anyone? Not even in the one where they have raised taxes on college students? Ok man whatever. I'm not sure exactly why you have this incessant need to try and :idb: everytime you see me but it's whatever. Still waiting on all this stuff that you have on me that you still have yet to produce. Oh well I will be waiting :rolleyes: .
01-11-2008, 12:37 AM
Maniac1

hahah stop crying already, you know im right... you failed, now please. stop replying and move on, i don't want to turn this thread into a maniac vs redgt one. i like this topic, put your two cents into my posts. id like to see what you have to say about them...
01-11-2008, 12:38 AM
Alan®

awww come on man your really makin me go all emo over here why don't you just post up "all the ****" you have on me and let's get it done and over with. So far I you were wrong on the PMS thing let's see what else your wrong about.
01-11-2008, 12:40 AM
Maniac1

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Originally Posted by redGT

awww come on man your really makin me go all emo over here why don't you just post up "all the ****" you have on me and let's get it done and over with. So far I you were wrong on the PMS thing let's see what else your wrong about.

haha relax dude, stop thinking about it too much... seriously. and it's you're btw...
01-11-2008, 12:43 AM
Alan®

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Originally Posted by Maniac©

haha relax dude, stop thinking about it too much... seriously. and it's you're btw...

ok this was your third opportunity SERIOUSLYT POST UP OR SHUT ABOUT ABOUT THIS "**** YOU HAVE ON ME"

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HAPPY? :goodjob:
01-11-2008, 12:45 AM
Alan®

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Originally Posted by Maniac©

have you ever been to mexico? what parts are seriously jacked up with issues? please don't say things that you have nothing but pictures to back you up.

but yeah, ive never been to mexico but i have seen pictures

This was an intersting comment :goodjob: :lmfao:
01-11-2008, 12:46 AM
Maniac1

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Originally Posted by redGT

This was an intersting comment :goodjob: :lmfao:

i was talking about internet pictures, i saw REAL pictures not some that people think "this is mexico because i saw it in the internet."
01-11-2008, 12:47 AM
Alan®

A picture is a picture is a picture doesn't matter if it's on the internet or one a family member took unless YOU PERSONALY LIVED IT YOUR OPINION AIN'T ****.
01-11-2008, 12:50 AM
Maniac1

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Originally Posted by redGT

A picture is a picture is a picture doesn't matter if it's on the internet or one a family member took unless YOU PERSONALY LIVED IT YOUR OPINION AIN'T ****.

if my opinion is worth sh!t, than yours will be classified as non existed... ive talked to family members, ive been told storys, i know alot more about the issues of mexico than alot of you.. lol you being the number one.
01-11-2008, 12:56 AM
Alan®

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Originally Posted by Maniac©

if my opinion is worth sh!t, than yours will be classified as non existed... ive talked to family members, ive been told storys, i know alot more about the issues of mexico than alot of you.. lol you being the number one.

great so then basically i know a lot more about the way West Point was 20 years ago because my dad was there and has told me every story about when he was there at least 3 times and because of the changes that have been made in the last 20 years West Point is a lot easier to get through thus making you a weaker soilder. So your telling me that because I have all these stories that makes me more knowledgeable and my opinon worth **** when i have not breathed slept ate been west point?

when it comes to **** like that unless you have lived it you just don't know.
01-11-2008, 12:58 AM
Lucky.

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Originally Posted by Maniac©

LOL! I can't argue about the water issue... :lmao:

but yeah, ive never been to mexico but i have seen pictures. from where my mom/dad grew up and some recent picture of how some of my mom's family lives over there.. my family all came from acapulco, which isn't as bad as other places, but still not all that great..

and yeah, after seeing the environment they grew in, i can see why they wouldn't want their kids growing up there. it really is sad when people automatically think that mexican's come here because they just felt like doing it... wrong, a better life and future for their children. is why...

and then some of the kids come here and waste their life by joining gangs and making us hispanics look bad
01-11-2008, 12:59 AM
Maniac1

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Originally Posted by redGT

great so then basically i know a lot more about the way West Point was 20 years ago because my dad was there and has told me every story about when he was there at least 3 times and because of the changes that have been made in the last 20 years West Point is a lot easier to get through thus making you a weaker soilder. So your telling me that because I have all these stories that makes me more knowledgeable and my opinon worth **** when i have not breathed slept ate been west point?

Thats exactly what im saying hahaha! and it's you're btw...
01-11-2008, 01:00 AM
Maniac1

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Originally Posted by Lucky.

and then some of the kids come here and waste their life by joining gangs and making us hispanics look bad

im not going to argue this, because it's true... which is why i don't really care what happens to the wetbacks..
01-11-2008, 01:01 AM
Alan®

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Originally Posted by Maniac©

Thats exactly what im saying hahaha! and it's you're btw...

i lirl'd damn it. Bad habits are hard to break.IDK my personal opinon is you can be told all the stories in the world but it's one thing to hear about it but another thing to live it. Know what I mean?

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