im just betting ruiner just a small bet cause im kinda 40/60 is this theory lolOriginally Posted by coolcat
im just betting ruiner just a small bet cause im kinda 40/60 is this theory lol
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I'll take that bet. I'll paypal you if I am wrong as well.
AIM: RuinerTT
2005 Nissan Pathfinder LE
This poll also reminds me of this:
If a truck has a flatbed trailer that can be driven upon.........then if the truck is going 70mph, and you approach it from behind at a faster speed in a car, can you climb onto the trailer? Yes, you just have to gauge the speed right and allow enough momentum for the car to climb the trailer; basically, put it in neutral right before the front wheels climb on the trailer (on a FWD otherwise you may mess up the tranny) or just before the rear wheels climb onto the trailer on a RWD car.
Will the car accerate at 80 or so mph when it climbs onto the trailer? No! The weight of the car and it's momentum is far greater than the momentum of the wheels spinning at 80mph.
Nope, it won't.
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Here is a question for the people who say it will NOT lift off -
Do you think that the plane will move forward, relative to the ground? (not relative to the treadmill)
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If its engines have enough force to overcome the speed of the treadmill, then yes, of course.
It does not matter the speed of the conveyer belt, it is all about the energy transfer of the speed of the belt to the plane itself, the energy transfers VERY efficiently to the wheels, but VERY un-efficient at transferring energy from the wheels to the bearings to the plane itself. Since only a TINY TINY fraction of the energy of the belt is being transferred to the plane, the large amount of force from the propellers will overcome this small counter-force, the plane will move forward, and take off.
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How?
So you're saying that the wings serve no purpose on a plane, right?
PLEASE show me where I said this. I never said that, all I said is that the force of the propellers are what get the plane moving, the air passing over the wings is what makes it take off. Just because I didn't include that part doesnt mean I am implying it is not correct. That is like me saying that you are racist because you did not say "I like minorities" in your sentance. RACIST.
How?
So you're saying that the wings serve no purpose on a plane, right?
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wow,.. 2 or 3 wagers.. i would put 50 bucks on it, but ruiner and i have the same theory..
I think it will take off.
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ok lets say it will move forward, and its as long as a normal runway it will run out of room
Want an example of why the treadmill acting on the wheels will have NO effect?
Go into an airport...you know those moving walkways?
Pull the suitcase with wheels on the normal floor. Now, pull that same suitcase on the moving walkway (against the movement of the walkway).
Do you have to exert any extra force? Nope. You pull with the same force. The wheels of the suitcase on the treadmill, however, just spin faster.
AIM: RuinerTT
2005 Nissan Pathfinder LE
and u need more force (movement) to go forward, correct?
More force? Nope. Pull it with the SAME force.
A jet exerts force on the air which pushes it forward. The same with a prop plane as well.
Here is a good example of how the wheels aren't even really needed. They are only there to minimize the friction with the ground as they are free rolling...
Look, Ma, no wheels!
AIM: RuinerTT
2005 Nissan Pathfinder LE
More force? Nope. Pull it with the SAME force.
A jet exerts force on the air which pushes it forward. The same with a prop plane as well.
Here is a good example of how the wheels aren't even really needed. They are only there to minimize the friction with the ground as they are free rolling...
Look, Ma, no wheels!
they are hidden and you sir are a lying bastard. lol
thats true, but im still gonna stand by my first judgement
Okay, here is another example...
Take a match-box car and a piece of paper. Put the match box car at one side of the paper and push it across. While the car is rolling, pull the paper back very fast.
The car that you pushed has free rolling wheels like a plane. You pushing it is like a jet's engine pushing through the air. The paper that you pull backwards, is like the treadmill.
Now, when you pull the paper back (pull it back slow, pull it back fast, it doesn't matter), does the car stop or does it keep moving forward?
Guess what, it keeps moving forward just like the plane will move on the treadmill.
AIM: RuinerTT
2005 Nissan Pathfinder LE
lol i'm still gonna stick with it
LS2_Kid, put your vote in!!!
AIM: RuinerTT
2005 Nissan Pathfinder LE
he's gonna wait until the show's overLS2_Kid, put your vote in!!!
done.LS2_Kid, put your vote in!!!
we will see.... the theory is sound but i have doubt in human error :P
better be one hell of a pilot and the mechanical be off by a little bit for all their calculations to actually work
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hahahah wow to all those who said it wont take off!!
i say its gonna take off.
I got dinner to goto.
God that sig is disgusting
The plane won't lift off unless it physically moves forward. Remember kiddies lift is crated by accelerating air over one side of the wing. If the atmosphere doesn't move across the surface area of the wings the plane will not lift off.
They also fail to mention if they are going to allow the plane to make progress down the tread mill all I see is talk of a matched speed. Secondly, is the plane being supported at the speed or are the engines of the plane matching the speed? Third, what is the treadmill's speed? If its 5mph big deal but if its lets say 200mph and the planes engines are doing the work to keep up then there is the problem of reserve power to out match the treadmill IF its allowed to make forward progress.
Lets say the treadmill doesnt end, then yes the plane will take off but it will requier more energy. It has to make up for the friction of the rotating wheels.
Long story short there isnt enough information in the question to answer it correctly.
So on that note i win the bets gimmie all your money lol.
Last edited by dorin48; 10-21-2007 at 09:16 PM.
IT WILL MOVE FORWARD!!!!!!
I cannot wait for this show to air.
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I can't, either.IT WILL MOVE FORWARD!!!!!!
I cannot wait for this show to air.
AIM: RuinerTT
2005 Nissan Pathfinder LE
The plan will take off. My bet: $50
d993s, vote up!
AIM: RuinerTT
2005 Nissan Pathfinder LE
after thinking about this for a long time i say it will. i used to say that it wont, but if you think about how an airplane works then you will realize that it will take of. a plane doesnt depend on ground speed but rather its speed through the air.
No.....I Don't Think The Plane Will Have Any Lift...That Sh1t Could Go 200 Mph...With No Lift Theres No Flying..
But Idk....Lets Wait And See..
No one taking my bet? I'm willing to raise it.
im a student pilot, i already soloed in a cherokee 180, but im still confused about the experiment. will the plain have its own power?
you sure ur a student pilot? LMFAO
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damn, not this again. Can't wait for the show.
yeeeeaaaa i fly 8891J out of berry hill. and sometimes out of tara.
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