Quote Originally Posted by coolcat
PLEASE show me where I said this. I never said that, all I said is that the force of the propellers are what get the plane moving, the air passing over the wings is what makes it take off. Just because I didn't include that part doesnt mean I am implying it is not correct. That is like me saying that you are racist because you did not say "I like minorities" in your sentance. RACIST.
Well you automatically (maybe unknowingly) assume this because it's a plane.
Not a helicopter. Not a Harrier jet. Not a space shuttle. Yes, it can move forward without wind under its wings. No, it will NOT take off (fly) without the necessary force of air under its wings.
The plane needs air UNDER it's wings, that's why I suggested it would work IF it had a 150+mph headwind, or IF you adjust the propellors/jet engines at a greater angle to allow takeoff.