well it might or might not relate too well, but take Kennesaw University for example ( yes I know they are all of legal age of consent ) but they provide free condoms in a big bowl in the medical centerOriginally Posted by phatboislim
well it might or might not relate too well, but take Kennesaw University for example ( yes I know they are all of legal age of consent ) but they provide free condoms in a big bowl in the medical center
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yea not too well of a relation because how young those other kids are..you are basically telling them by giving them the BC pill to have sex
Well, until Jaime has the exact article, but what it sounds like is those girls that are already sexually active have the OPTION of the pill. So in other words ( to me at least ) it seems like those girls will be sexually active no matter what, but just that there might be an option in the future to take a less chance of unplanned things. I mean there is no age limit on a male buying a condom.
It's a hard thing to say what I'm trying to say. I don't agree with it, but considering the alternative, its better than nothing, although there is a chance of the risk of it in fact promoting sex at a younger age, but there's just the chance that the levels wouldn't necessarily increase. I mean if I fail one day in instilling morales into a daughter I may one day have, I would rather have my daughter at least being on BC than to get pregnant - sadly its risk management, but its all about what ifs
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yea to the girls that choose to be sexually active, yea, they should have the option, but forcing it on others...i mean..dang im in ur situation trying to explain myself..its a real mixed feeling, touchy situation
Well, I assumed, and now reading the article reinforces, they're not forcing it, they're just having that option available ( kinda the point I was trying to make with the KSU free condoms )
Granted reading that article...
"Students treated at the centers must first get written parental permission, but under state law such treatment is confidential, and students decide for themselves whether to tell their parents about the services they receive."
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so w/ that thought in mind..it starts w/ the parents..
Yeah, at least about getting an examination, but then the parents don't know if the child chose to go on BC or not due to confidentiality laws... that middle schoolers seem to haveso w/ that thought in mind..it starts w/ the parents..
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Leadfoot found the article and has posted a link at the top of this page. Thank you Leadfoot.
It is in Maine, which actually doesn't surprise me since they are usually a very Democratic, ie. Liberal, state.
Anyway, the article echoes exactly what all of us have been saying here with the exception of religious opposition which noone has brought up in our discussion yet.
Well, its hard to say anything religion wise... I mean what would be worse, having a child under age ( and an abortion even ) and out of wedlock, or taking preventative means to not have such a child and out of wedlock, even though both options still violate having sex without being married ( which is of no surprise in today's society ) - so religion kinda has to sit this one out... I don't really see how it would be against religion like how abortion would
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yea if religion were a factor, this wouldnt even be a question whether this is right or wrong, thats why i didnt even mention that..
Well, don't count out religion as an opposing view on this. Believe me, religion has a BIG opinion on under age/unwed sexual intercourse, so you can believe it will be sited as a reason to shoot this decision down. Many people, usually with ultra strong religious beliefs, are very much against any type of sexual activity at all. I know that some churches even frown upon teenage kids holding hands, let alone having sex. So believe me, it won't be long before religion is used as a reason cited for opposition to this.
I completely understand, but its just that even if religion wins and prevents the BC from being available, it still wouldn't stop a child from being sexually active...
As for when to open the flood gates? I would say its safe to start to slowly open them when they have their drivers license. And by slowly I mean slow enough that they can learn and deal with responsibly the new situations and choices they are faced with.
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Remember one thing too folks.....what happened to all of us at some point or another when we figured out that we COULD fly under our parent's radar and get away with some things? We did them, right? I know I did. Underage drinking, sex, cutting school, driving recklessly, staying out all night, mischief, etc. We all did it at one point or another in our lives, right? Question really is then, how young is too young to open up the flood gates that make a child sink or swim on their own?
We all, as parents, can try and try and try to teach our children right from wrong. Ironically enough, ultimately it is entirely out of our hands what really happens in real life. In front of you when you are discussing sex, most if not all children will say all the right things and promise you "never ever" to do it, right? But we all know what happens when peer pressure is applied too. The same thing that happens sometimes when the parents are out of sight.....children do what they think is "cool" or what they think their friends think is "cool".
See now why I have gray hairs and have high blood pressure?????
yea thats what i was sayinRemember one thing too folks.....what happened to all of us at some point or another when we figured out that we COULD fly under our parent's radar and get away with some things? We did them, right? I know I did. Underage drinking, sex, cutting school, driving recklessly, staying out all night, mischief, etc. We all did it at one point or another in our lives, right? Question really is then, how young is too young to open up the flood gates that make a child sink or swim on their own?
We all, as parents, can try and try and try to teach our children right from wrong. Ironically enough, ultimately it is entirely out of our hands what really happens in real life. In front of you when you are discussing sex, most if not all children will say all the right things and promise you "never ever" to do it, right? But we all know what happens when peer pressure is applied too. The same thing that happens sometimes when the parents are out of sight.....children do what they think is "cool" or what they think their friends think is "cool".
See now why I have gray hairs and have high blood pressure?????
well look at kids over in Europe and such, much less drunk driving deaths and all that other jazz.. the legal drinking age is alot younger and more things are available and less viewed ass "wrong"Remember one thing too folks.....what happened to all of us at some point or another when we figured out that we COULD fly under our parent's radar and get away with some things? We did them, right? I know I did. Underage drinking, sex, cutting school, driving recklessly, staying out all night, mischief, etc. We all did it at one point or another in our lives, right? Question really is then, how young is too young to open up the flood gates that make a child sink or swim on their own?
We all, as parents, can try and try and try to teach our children right from wrong. Ironically enough, ultimately it is entirely out of our hands what really happens in real life. In front of you when you are discussing sex, most if not all children will say all the right things and promise you "never ever" to do it, right? But we all know what happens when peer pressure is applied too. The same thing that happens sometimes when the parents are out of sight.....children do what they think is "cool" or what they think their friends think is "cool".
See now why I have gray hairs and have high blood pressure?????
the less things we let our kids do, the more they want to do them, to act out against us as a parent.. most kids did all that stuff to "get back at the parents" "rebel against authority" honesetly, i bet half of the children in america wouldn't get in trouble for drinking or drugs or alot of stuff if it was just legal, then it wouldn't be "COOL" or the "rebellious" thing to do.
Oh no, you didn't go there did you?
Well, does that mean we should allow children to watch porn, have sex, drink, drive, stick sharp objects into a light socket, work in a sweat shop, be sent off to marry their cousin, and generally view women as a lesser species? Because they do that in other countries too, you know. Does that make it right?
Everytime a child "rebels" it is certainly NOT the parents fault. We have to set boundaries and rules for our children. That is exactly what parenting is. It is NOT being your child's "friend". It is NOT buying your child's attention. It is NOT letting public opinion rule your home. It IS being a responsible role model by teaching your child what is right and wrong and how to decipher life's problems in a positive way. Everyone now a days thinks that if they are their child's "best friend" that their child will suddenly tell them everything and they will obey properly and never come home late and make all A's in school. BULL S_H_I_T!!!!! That is the quickest way to turn your child into a statistic if there ever was a way.
So parents letting children do whatever they want in order to squash their curiousity is no parenting at all. It is a chicken S_H_I_T way to parent and a lazy way to take care of your responsabilities. Parenting IS HARD, period. There is no short cut way to do it, and there shouldn't be. So everyone needs to stop trying to find a magic pill, just like we do for weight loss, and do the ONLY thing that has been tried and true for centuries.....BE A REAL PARENT or don't parent at all. It's hard work. If you're not ready for that, don't have children. Simple.
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