Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
By saving you from yourselves I meant that the U.S. and in this case U.N. both had to intervene from yall KILLING and TERRORISING yourselves to death. Serbs, Croats, Muslims.....all of you were arguing over BS and killing each other. Right or wrong? Probably wrong in your propaganda book.
serbia is not the same as croatia, and islam is a religion not a nation, so i fail to see how you were saving SERBIA from SERBIA. you were saving albanians from serbians

BTW, we came at the request of both NATO and the U.N., so if you have a problem you have a problem with them too. But since I haven't seen any of that from your propaganda laden posts, it's obvious just how well informed you are about the FACTS.
my facts aren't propaganda laden, your facts are just nearly nonexistant. you ever wonder why the u.s. got involved in our issue when there's tons of genocides to worry about? you ever wonder why it was barely broadcast on the media? it wasn't a liberation or peacekeeping organization like they're trying to play off in iraq, it was a fucking 'we get what we want' situation. america wanted to build a military base in kosovo and to gain rights to our airspace. milosevic told clinton to go fuck himself(quite literally). clinton used the first chance he got to intervene and get what he wanted. you dont' give a fuck about albanians, and you certainly don't give a fuck about the bosnians in srebrenica(or you wouldve done something 10 years ago), you just wanted to build a base in an ideal location through any means necessary.

Often times that is absolutely correct. Look up and see how many times the U.S. has committed genocide. Look up how many times we've bombed our own people. Look up how many times they've dug up mass graves on U.S. soil. Look and see how many times we advocate brutality against our own citizens. Each one of those has a country/government responsible for it in the last few years. How barbaric is that? How civilized is that? So I'm not giving any excuses for calling a spade a spade. If the truth hurts, tough shit.
only srebrenica applies to serbia, it was a decade ago, and it has nothing to do with the bombing in 99(which is what i'm referring to). plus, your government is uncomparably better than ours at covering up conspiracies and the like. i'm sure your government is guilty of war crimes as much as any other country is, difference is, you're too good at covering your tracks.

Really? What "reason" is that? Did Albania betray a peace treaty? Did Albania bomb innocent citizens? Did Albania support organized terrorism against anyone? Exactly what is that magic reason you have????
you act as if albanians are innocent pawns we were picking on. they killed our people and we fought back, albanians were killing serbs every chance they got over there. in addition to the whole kidnapping 8 year olds to sell on the sexual slave trade. are you literate? it was a battle on our own turf. they killed our people. just like osama's bombers killed yours.



I explained already how you were saved from yourselves above.
YES PROUD AMERICAN! YOU SAVED SERBIA FROM SERBIAN TERRORISM BY MEANS OF TERRORISM!! you retarded fuck you didn't save us from ourselves, you saved albania from us. you have such a brainwashed patriot attitude you flat out refuse to admit any flaws in your country's foreign policy. i lived there, i'd fucking know better than you whether you 'saved' us, and you fucking didn't. you didn't even try, and you couldn't, because serbs weren't the ones in need of rescue; the rest of the balkans were. don't talk like you know anything about my country when it's painfuly apparent you know next to nothing.

I guess that we should all go and dig up whatever pissed off our ancestors and settle those debts TODAY, huh??? That is the most moronic and archaeic thing you've said so far. "Oppression" from what exactly? When it was the SERBS that attacked the MUSLIMS and as a matter of fact MURDERED 8,000 UNARMED MUSLIMS in Srebrenica as a part of Mladic and Karadzic's "ethnic cleansing" campaign for an all "serb occupied" region.
opression from turkish muslims for most of our history. hint: serbia's history doesn't consist of the last 15 FUCKING YEARS. and they weren't all unarmed.
In other words, they ordered and killed THOUSANDS of people all in the name of "this is MY land and I only want MY KIND of people here because I said so..." You are exactly right, that is an outstanding REASON to KILL people. I know exactly what your "mindset" is. It is let me do whatever the hell I want, but when I need help give it to me.
the fuck are you talking about. give us help? milosevic told all of your officials to go fuck themselves. hardly a cry for help.


As a matter of fact, there are a few Serbian "leaders" that are still being sought to be punished for WAR CRIMES. Hmmm, so they got blamed for WAR CRIMES by the rest of the world and yet they were "justified" in YOUR book???? I guess you also believe HITLER was justified too, huh? When was the last time ANY U.S. person was accused, let alone convicted, of WAR CRIMES????? Look that up to while you're learning something new.
DO I SEEM MORE CLEVER NOW!?!
america is the most powerful country in the world, and the leader of western civilization, who the FUCk is going to accuse them of anything? plus, as i said before, your government is flawless at covering up it's dirty business, so there's nothing to go on. as far as hitler goes, don't even, dickweed, he's the reason an entire generation of serbs were wiped out in wwii.


Wow, so that's the magic bullet you're holding on to? Religion? So what, the Muslims were KILLING people for practicing another religion? Wait, maybe they were imposing you to have to pray 5 times a day? What exactly was that religious fight over?
did 9/11 not drill the whole "muslims kill for religion" issue into your head enough? you make this sarcastic comment when you know for a fact it's true. you'd have to be skullfucked with a pneumatic drill to not realize muslims kill for religion.
As for Iraq, I don't expect you to have a clue as to why Iraq is what it is since you can't even figure out why your own country had a cluster fuck in it's own backyard for 4 yrs.
my country had a "cluster fuck" in the area for much longer than four years, and i know exactly why. nationalistic pride and religion. i said mine, now if you'd be so kind as to iterate why your country is in iraq? to liberate the people there? nuclear weapons(that were never found)?

If by taking care of business you mean terrorism and genocide, then yes it was being taken care of.....
what the fuck are you talking about? i thought i made the situation clear in my last post, but apparently comprehension isn't your strong point.
first, srebrenica was resolved a decade ago, and second you flipped the fucking books. you just left tens of thosuands of serbs defenseless at the mercy of albanians who went and systematically tried to kill all of them. repeat YOU ALLOWED ALBANIANS TO ENACT GENOCIDE ON SERBS(if necessary i'll repeat again). america doesn't give a fuck about serbia or albania or bosnia or muslims or orthodox christians. if you really were set out to save serbia from itself why did you just remove our president and get teh fuck out with minimal media coverage? why didn't you stick around and help us solidify our government like you're trying to do in iraq(my ass). because iraq has oil, and we don't have shit. you took kosovo from us, and you had your land for your military base, so you got the fuck out with what you needed, happy ending. and then you turn a blind eye. genocide is still going over there, warfare is still going over there. you didn't resolve a single fucking thing except acquire land and airspace.

So if you're violent compulsive actor who is violent by nature, why should anyone listen to you when it comes to foreign policy?
i never said anyone should listen to me concerning foreign policy, but you clearly know nothing about what happened over there and why. and why would your government tell you anyways? you ever watch spanish, french, german news? i'll stragiht up tell you that their news is way more factualy correct than yours. america is pro at spinning news stories.

BTW, when the U.S. bombs people by U.N. mandate or makes another country DO what it had already AGREED to do decades ago yet the U.N. was too chicken shit to enforce, it gets called bad and barbaric. How come you feel that bombing your own people whenever you felt the need "OK" and "practicing what you preach", yet when we do it it's not???? Answer that.
BECAUSE WE NEVER BOMBED OUR OWN FUCKING PEOPLE. THEY ARE DIFFERENT COUNTRIES, DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES, DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. AMERICA IS NOT THE SAME AS CANADA, SERBIA IS NOT THE SAME AS ALBANIA. GOD HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU.



Your gov't problems have nothing to do with bricks and mortar and a whole hellva lot to do with corruption.
and yours is perfect. right.

The Serbian gov't has knowingly harbored Mladic for over 10 yrs.
yea.

When Milosevic was in charge the whole idea was to set up borders where only SERBS could be and that's what began all the conflict in the first place.
serbia had issues with croats and albanians long before milosevic ever took power. his policies only somewhat escalated the issue. if he'd acted quicker and less clumsily, as well as cooperated with america and gave them what they wanted, the bombing never would've occured.



And BTW, doesn't your permit to be here have an expiration date??? Well then, you've got that luxury.....to bad mouth a country that ALLOWS you to come eventhough you openly don't support it......how nice is that? I wonder if YOUR country is like that???? Ohhhh, wait......according to you the 4 yr war was over RELIGION......so if I don't have your same RELIGION as whomever is in charge I get MURDERED........Ahhhhh, I see.
yeah except america prides itself on allowing me to criticize it. serbia isn't like that.

So let's get this straight: The U.S. is terrible because ALLOW people like you IN, yet YOUR country is sooo much better because they KILL people that don't practice a certain RELIGION......Hmmmmm, let me think about that for a minute.......
like me? suddenly because i argue on the internet i'm a threat to society? fuck you, at least i don't walk around saying i'll shoot people if they try to fight me because it'll give me the advantage! win no matter what! fucking douche.

In your country that could be a death sentence though.....
my country that you've never been in and know next to nothing about. okay.


Well, this "unhinged idiot" had his background thoroughly checked and awarded in the form of a CCW permit.
re-read what i said. the "AS LIKELY TO BE a AS THEY ARE b" a being normal, b being unhinged. in addition to stating that when pissed off, people are more likely to do stupid things.

How many people have driver's licenses? How many people die every DAY from traffic accidents caused by drunk or derranged or unexperienced or just merely deppressed drivers?????? 1 million times more than die because a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN used a weapon in self defense.
the fuck? you're comparing two completely irrelevant statistics.

So you can keep tree hugging all you want, and I'll keep my .357 or .45 or .40 or 9mm or .38 or .380 or (I could do this all day you know!!) at my side for whenever I deem necessary. Got a problem with that? Tough shit.
so anyone who doesn't like shooting people is a tree hugger? aren't you a macho motherfucker! you have a gun! the vast majority get through life without ever using or owning a firearm, and the majority of the people who own them never had to use them in self defense. i think it's stupid. and it'll be tough for you to shit when you're getting analy molested in the showers because a judge didn't feel your 'self defense' case was strong enough. i wouldn't mind takng a gun to the range, i just wouldn't carry one around.

and as far as the contradiction comment, hardly. i don't like your government and it's foreign policies. i don't like brainwashed overbearing patriots like yourself who refuse to admit their flaws(at least i admit i'm biased, and i admit my flaws and my country's flaws. you act as if yours is perfect), and i don't like people who feel the need to carry guns around all the time. that's hardly everyone. the majority of my friends are americans, they're just not complete fuckwits like yourself.

and keep carrying your whateverthefuckgun(o pls keep doing it all day !!) you chose, i have no bearing on your decisions, but hey, it's america, so i have a fundimental right to criticize you.(added smileys because i feel it adds a cool and witty edge to whatever i say)

p.s. i read ruiners post and i actualy appreciate his mindset. but you just seem as hot-headed as me, and isn't a quality that someone who constantly carries a loaded gun should have.