How much of a man does it make you?

[Ruiner]

why do you continue to argue that point? lol

almost everyone here agrees with that and it has been stated over and over, this is coming from the standpoint of the aggressor, not some defending their life from a random stranger who is potentially robbed

Why be the aggressor, though? To do so, in my mind, shows both immaturity and stupidity. Why run your mouth, call people out, etc? Why challenge people? What does it accomplish?

[Lucky DAWG]

Why be the aggressor, though? To do so, in my mind, shows both immaturity and stupidity. Why run your mouth, call people out, etc? Why challenge people? What does it accomplish?

not at all, some people need to be put in their place or they will never learn. I've had it served to me before rightfully for being an ass hat and i'm thankful for it, it sure got the message across lol

i don't understand how fighting for your ideals and beliefs makes you immature or stupid, i'd rather die today knowing that I do everything in my power to do what i think is right rather then walk away knowing that i messed up.

If someone is coming after me though, then by all means its okay to walk away, or use weapons if they get one pulled on me and i have to defend my life, thats an entirely different matter

[Ruiner]

not at all, some people need to be put in their place or they will never learn. I've had it served to me before rightfully for being an ass hat and i'm thankful for it, it sure got the message across lol

i don't understand how fighting for your ideals and beliefs makes you immature or stupid, i'd rather die today knowing that I do everything in my power to do what i think is right rather then walk away knowing that i messed up.

If someone is coming after me though, then by all means its okay to walk away, or use weapons if they get one pulled on me and i have to defend my life, thats an entirely different matter

Who are you to be able to call yourself a judge and jury? Honestly, what gives you that that ability to decide if someone needs to be put in their place?

Once again, if you are of the mindset of "putting people in their place" and being the aggressor, you shouldn't be surprised if someone shoots you for trying to do so. To me, you convey an immature attitude for trying to do so. Everyone has the right to be an asshat if they want. It's a free country. It's my God-given right if I so feel the need to be one. If someone tries to put me in my place for doing so, they should not be surprised if bad shit goes down. Why you would want to do this is beyond me, but to each their own. Personally I feel that what goes around comes around. If I can keep from fighting, I'll do that. If some trailer trash wants to call me out in front of everyone, OH WELL! He isn't even worth my time.

You were born in '89. You are still young and have a lot to learn about the ways of the world. Hopefully you'll make it to your 30th or 40th birthday. I can tell you this: if you go around "putting people in their place" all of the time, your life might just be cut short.

[Lucky DAWG]

Who are you to be able to call yourself a judge and jury? Honestly, what gives you that that ability to decide if someone needs to be put in their place?

Once again, if you are of the mindset of "putting people in their place" and being the aggressor, you shouldn't be surprised if someone shoots you for trying to do so. To me, you convey an immature attitude for trying to do so. Everyone has the right to be an asshat if they want. It's a free country. It's my God-given right if I so feel the need to be one. If someone tries to put me in my place for doing so, they should not be surprised if bad shit goes down. Why you would want to do this is beyond me, but to each their own. Personally I feel that what goes around comes around. If I can keep from fighting, I'll do that. If some trailer trash wants to call me out in front of everyone, OH WELL! He isn't even worth my time.

You were born in '89. You are still young and have a lot to learn about the ways of the world. Hopefully you'll make it to your 30th or 40th birthday. I can tell you this: if you go around "putting people in their places" all of the time, your life might just be cut short.

i said that i don't go around doing that because i'm not a big guy, and you're right everyone does have the ability to go around being an ass hat. So yet again you are correct, what goes around comes around. You can't go around being an asshole to people and not expect to get knocked back down on your ass, if you have no regard for others and put yourself first in every situation then sometimes a quick smack in the head will fix it.

Most physical injuries heal when fighting fairly as i stated, the mental injuries that some people inflict with this kind of attitude can last a lot longer.

everytime you take a jab at me its because of my age and things you don't know about, so whos the judge and jury?

[BTLFED]

If someone is coming after me though, then by all means its okay to walk away, or use weapons if they get one pulled on me and i have to defend my life, thats an entirely different matter

By the time someone pulls it on you, it could be too late. Why take that chance? This isn't the O.K. Corral. People don't count to three and draw. They will pull it out and fuck you up before you even get to yours. I, for one, will not take that chance in this day and age. If someone has the balls to come at me, then they have the balls to be carrying a weapon. I'm not going to take the chance of waiting to see if he pulls one.

[Ruiner]

By the time someone pulls it on you, it could be too late. Why take that chance? This isn't the O.K. Corral. People don't count to three and draw. They will pull it out and fuck you up before you even get to yours. I, for one, will not take that chance in this day and age. If someone has the balls to come at me, then they have the balls to be carrying a weapon. I'm not going to take the chance of waiting to see if he pulls one.

Exactly. That goes along with having the "balls" to put someone in their place as well; but by only using your fists. To use "vigilante" justice to put some asshat in their place is beyond me. Why go INTO a fight that you don't have to? Why create the confrontation when it isn't truly needed? Lucky SC seems to believe that this is okay. So what if someone doesn't "respect" you?

So, if someone doesn't respect you and you try and put them in their place, said person should fight fair? No. I disagree 100%. I have a thing called self preservation. I don't go around trying to be an asshat, but there are times that people get the wrong impression and shit just happens. When "shit" goes down, I gain the upper hand as quickly as possible (within my legal rights).

A perfect example: I showed up to a car gathering one night in a small town a few years ago. I had a buddy with me. We were in my 911 turbo and everyone else there had Fords, Hondas, Chevys, etc. No sooner did I step out of my car, someone asked me to race. I wasn't there to race, so I told him no. I didn't smirk, laugh, anything. All I said was, "No, I am just here to chill with everyone else." IMMEDIATELY I was confronted by kids that thought that I must think that I was "too good" for them. Because I was driving a $100,000+ car, they were all offended that I didn't want to race. Assumptions immediately popped their ugly heads up. They suddenly got up in my face and told me to leave or they were going to make me leave. Now, all I said was that I didn't want to race. I didn't make ANY comments that were condescending or looked down upon. These guys were being asshats. One stepped up to me. He had NO weapon that I could see, but was I going to take that chance? Hell no. I walked away with my buddy as they taunted and talked shit. Did I care? No. Could I have put that one kid in his place? Sure. Was it worth my time to do so? No. HAD he hit me, I would have fought back enough to get away. If they had kept coming, I would have shot them and/or at least ended the situation immediately. I wouldn't even think twice about it. If nothing else, the cops would have been there to arrest them. After all, I found out that the best way to really hurt people is to take their freedom and hurt their wallet. Why stand there and engage in a fist fight when I have the ability to get out of the situation unscathed? Even if I KNOW that I can whip his ass, why do it? What do you REALLY gain from that? I'm 31 years old and DO NOT stoop down to the maturity level of high schoolers and/or white trash that have nothing better to do than pick fights.

Lucky SC, if you can't understand that, you have a lot to learn.