Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
Yall go out of your way to find some type of evidence against a common sense argument. I may have been incorrect in stating that the "Government" owns the FD and PD, but a local government owns it. And here and there I suppose a county or city will deny them. But I'm not about to backpedal as those were used as examples. Its common sense to care for somebody in need. Why does it even matter? You cant place a cost on your life nor can you on someone elses. Talking all this negativity towards the idea of helping people live is beyond me.
How was it common sense when your argument was already proven wrong?

Every country that has socialized health DOES PUT A PRICE ON LIFE. David pointed that out back on like page 2 of this thread.

Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
Like the Military who train you to kill for instance, when u get injured, your cared for (most likely to get you back into the fight) and thats that. There are no questions about what company is providing your insurance, your injured, they fix you free of charge.
You couldnt be more wrong. Unless you are in a combat environment, your unit is "charged" a fee based on the number of troops in the unit. That fee is pooled with all other units using that medical facility to provide the operating budget for that facility.

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Jimmy stop being a smartass. Workers Comp may have separate laws but its just the same with child birth.
If being correct is being a smartass to you then no. I agree it is he same with child birth. Federal law requires businesses to give a certain amount of time to come back from child birth. This is called maternity leave. Just because they dont get paid for it doesnt mean they dont get it. Also, most companies to pay for maternity leave at the same rate they pay out short term disability. Now, if a woman doesnt want to go back to work when she is able to do so, that is a choice she makes and a company should not be liable for that choice.

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She cant just give birth and bam be back at work.
Really? We just had a lady at my job have a baby and she was back in about 3 weeks. It did not take a year.


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As I said Norway allows a whole year off with pay no questions just your having a baby so... your having a baby, take care of him/her.
it doesnt take anywhere near a year to get back on your feet and back to full strength after having a baby.



Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
Your injured in Norway, see a doctor free of charge, get cared for free of charge, then take a week or two off to recover or longer if need be,
They have that in the US too. It is called long term and short term disability. Most major medical plans do cover it. Oh, and it isnt free. The govt just takes it ahead of time and doesnt charge a copay. Then again, it may take you 2 or 3 months to see the doc, so good luck.


Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize View Post
so you can be productive for the country.
Yes comrade, the peasants must be at full strength to assure the strength of the nation and the party.

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So again, you'd rather watch a child die because the family is uninsured when whatever the problem with their child is curable, fixable, stoppable simply by doing it?
Someone shows up in the hospital and the hospital is required to treat them, whether the patient has the ability to pay or not.

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Because it will cost the insurance company to MUCH too save your life.
Once again, every country with socialized medicine is doing this already. They are rationing care based on future productivity and the costs to save you.