So Let's See What Happens

[blaknoize]

Since you can afford to, please go ahead and do it. Make a video of it and post it for us to see. Actually go ahead and start sending in an extra 10% to the government. Don't just talk about it.
Can I afford to send an extra 10%? I already do, as I am in one of the higher tax brackets. I'm already doing more than my part, as I do not use any government paid healthcare - I have to pay for that myself also.
Utilizing the money that I earn for my own family is not greedy, it's practical. Utilizing government money that you did not earn to pay your costs is greedy.
Why are you traveling to the UK to get your teeth worked on? Because it's cheaper? Why don't you just pay a dentist here?
You have already shown that you have no clue about how R&D is funded for technological advances. Do you really think that the UK is the leader in technilogical advances in dentistry?

Obviously because its cheaper. A dentist here will cost to much for me to pay out of pocket as I dont run on credit. There is a better way to get that done without going upside down in cost, just to eat food and smile.

On this technology thing you talk about. Since we have the latest and greatest why is it that none of the people that really need it get to use it? Its only those with the money that can get scan for their life. Your 31, you've seen people die off that you knew (maybe because I know I have) due to the inability to afford that scan or... can afford the scan but not the work because the scan itself cost them both arms. You may complain of your tax but at least you can complain, this money thing makes you think your better or have done something better than another person your same age.

Now to my 10% contribution to government, that will be a no, because our government will not use it for what its intended for. But as an example: If my family gave your family 10% of their earnings and your family gave mine the same, we would "insure" one another and if another family gave 10% of their earnings neither one of those families would have to worry about payment because its already paid for. Its an investment in one another for when your GOING to need it. Works exactly the same as saving for retirement, that money we ALL put into our system would earn interest on itself and be available to those 3 families that need REAL help or just simple repairs to ones body. Now imagine if a whole community did that, or can u imagine sharing a few bills here and their for solidarity?

To continue: say that neighborhood and its 10% contribution to one another was used to push 1 student of each respective practice for any kid that really wanted to help their fellow neighbors. Oh look, free college education on behalf of the neighborhood for you to help the neighborhood out AND as a bonus, u get paid from the neighborhood for helping folks that need it, because thats your job. You could probably do that with just 2% of that 10% of each neighbor in the area. You will try and find specific #'s and incidents of pay grades and all that, ladeda, but its an example.

Whats your income? 45k, 70k? Your living great I could only imagine that for myself, but once I get there I can complain about things like how much I'm paying in taxes and what not, but... of the available income and disposable income I have, I can enjoy myself, 36k is enough for me to get a nice 1 level home with a full basement (value of roughly 110k), 2 car garage, new car payment (of 25k or less) and finance new furniture out the ass and get my lil goodies I want here and there.

To try and answer the greed I mentioned, which I cant, but I will try. Your not willing to help someone in need is greed. Just as a country not willing to help its people in need is greed. I may have said this before, but if America has the BEST health care system with the BEST doctors and the BEST technology, how come we are the worse off? We dont live as long as others in other nations poorer than us, which can be found, again on the CIA factbook. We dont live any longer than any nation that is "social" in its health needs with this AMAZINGLY NEW TECHNOLOGY we have and incredibly high paid doctors. I would only assume with a country that is balling in the trillions we could afford a few billion to help one another so... as I said previously, this strong profitable nations workforce can continue to grow, learn and prosper and even attract others to move here for the hopes of the same.

Yall try to bash me on Norway, the UK, France, Germany even, but you cannot deny the fact that they all live longer than us. Not sure how u could possibly find any issues with Norway, your just worried about their tax, even though they're balling with even half their income their making more than us. NOK is less than Dollar, but Dollar is less than Euro, NOK and Euro exchange not NOK and Dollar. Because in this mind, if the currency is worth LESS to another, that means it can buy the exact same in THAT country for less. 45,000 Euros a year only make around 36,000 Kroners a year. So a Norwegian wouldn't need as much to buy the same products.

To conclude, no I wont send 10% to this Government, but would I give my 10% a check to someone that really needed it, yes, because thats only $60 a paycheck, $60 that, if you needed it every week, would help u get your medication so you can fuking live. Also the "rich" get the amazing Bush Tax CUT of almost 85k a year, at least the highest rollers in this country, Alan Grayson can tell you that.

-- You may have some amazing ass insurance because u can afford it, but if u just so happen to be that man or woman that becomes diseased solely because thats what your body will do when it gets older, and you 70k a year is maxed out through ur final few yrs of home payments, car notes for the kids and grand kids, charitable "gifts", your medication(s) and the cost of living and those super bills that you incurred because u needed help, u will then request help. But bitches like you guys over here huffing and puffing over a little bit of your income going to help the needy because they arent "like you" and you cant verify why they need the help, will let them die. Oh just you wait till we all bang 60's, late 70's even 80's yet cant die, but must use medication and or need routine checkups and physicals and whatnot to function in our day to day lives, seeing every fukin year we are 10, 20, 40, 50k in debt simply because we're alive. When all along, those 40+ yrs of youth we all could of put our into something for our own futures to help us survive when we need it. 1%, 6%, 11%, why do u care, its just a little bit of money. Its not just for "those other fukin people u dont know" its also for you, because all those fukin people u dont know are doing it to, for other people they dont fukin know. One day that "person u dont fukin know" could be you and those other fukin people u dont know will help you. Not because they wont to or because they care for u, but because they can and thats how it is.

[David88vert]

Obviously because its cheaper. A dentist here will cost to much for me to pay out of pocket as I dont run on credit. There is a better way to get that done without going upside down in cost, just to eat food and smile.

And there you go. You ar not looking for advances in dentistry, and to have the best possible. You are just looking for a cheap price. That is the difference between you and I. I want quality in dental care - and I spend it out of pocket. I had no trouble saving up and affording my family's dental care, why should I pay for others dental care, when no one else is going to assist me?

On this technology thing you talk about. Since we have the latest and greatest why is it that none of the people that really need it get to use it? Its only those with the money that can get scan for their life. Your 31, you've seen people die off that you knew (maybe because I know I have) due to the inability to afford that scan or... can afford the scan but not the work because the scan itself cost them both arms. You may complain of your tax but at least you can complain, this money thing makes you think your better or have done something better than another person your same age.

The poor do get to use it - whenever they really need it for LIFE-SAVING needs. We have free emergency care for those that do not have the financial means to support themselves. They get x-rays, cat scans, etc - if they are in emergency care. Go to any hospital and ask the financial department where there money comes from for those in lower income levels. Technnology works well - who do you think got rid of polio, smallpox, etc? Where do you think almost all of the drugs available have come from?

Now to my 10% contribution to government, that will be a no, because our government will not use it for what its intended for. ...

And what exactly makes you think that if we "fund" a healthcare program, that it will get the funding marked to it? We already have healthcare programs, and if the government is doing such a poor job now, what makes you think it will get better if you give them more money? If you say that they do not need more money, tell us where they are going to pull that money from -in other workds, what programs are they going to cut.

To continue: say that neighborhood and its 10% contribution to one another was used to push 1 student of each respective practice for any kid that really wanted to help their fellow neighbors. Oh look, free college education on behalf of the neighborhood for you to help the neighborhood out AND as a bonus, u get paid from the neighborhood for helping folks that need it, because thats your job. You could probably do that with just 2% of that 10% of each neighbor in the area. You will try and find specific #'s and incidents of pay grades and all that, ladeda, but its an example.

There is no free lunch - and no free college. You are living in a dream world if you think there is. There are tax incentive programs in place for people to plan for college now. Look up 529's. Better education does not mean that the person you send through will get a better job, or be a better member of society either. People complain about the cost of their HOA's now, and have trouble paying basic living expenses now - and you want them to pay for someone else's kid to go party at UGA? Let me bring you back to reality - we do not live in a utopian society, as one never has existed, nor ever will. There is no magical government system that will give everyone the perfect life. Life is about making choices and living with those choices.

Whats your income? 45k, 70k? Your living great I could only imagine that for myself, but once I get there I can complain about things like how much I'm paying in taxes and what not, but... of the available income and disposable income I have, I can enjoy myself, 36k is enough for me to get a nice 1 level home with a full basement (value of roughly 110k), 2 car garage, new car payment (of 25k or less) and finance new furniture out the ass and get my lil goodies I want here and there.

My income is enough for me to be in a higher tax bracket. Do I have disposable income? No. Why? Because I already pay out enough in taxes to cover all of your family's emergency care needs right now.

...I may have said this before, but if America has the BEST health care system with the BEST doctors and the BEST technology, how come we are the worse off? We dont live as long as others in other nations poorer than us, which can be found, again on the CIA factbook. We dont live any longer than any nation that is "social" in its health needs with this AMAZINGLY NEW TECHNOLOGY we have and incredibly high paid doctors. I would only assume with a country that is balling in the trillions we could afford a few billion to help one another so... as I said previously, this strong profitable nations workforce can continue to grow, learn and prosper and even attract others to move here for the hopes of the same.

Americans life expectancy is not because of the medical care, but rather, the choices they make. We eat unhealthy food because it tastes good, we smoke, we drink, etc - all because we chose to. Our technology allows us to have these indulgences and still keep a long life. Additionally, "helping everyone" through the force of taxes is not choosing to help out your fellow humans. Tht wouldn't solve this "greed" of wanting to keep what you earn through work. If I choose to help, it should be just that - a choice. I give to charities already, but it is my choice who I give it to, and how much.

Yall try to bash me on Norway, the UK, France, Germany even, but you cannot deny the fact that they all live longer than us. Not sure how u could possibly find any issues with Norway, your just worried about their tax, even though they're balling with even half their income their making more than us. NOK is less than Dollar, but Dollar is less than Euro, NOK and Euro exchange not NOK and Dollar. Because in this mind, if the currency is worth LESS to another, that means it can buy the exact same in THAT country for less. 45,000 Euros a year only make around 36,000 Kroners a year. So a Norwegian wouldn't need as much to buy the same products.

To conclude, no I wont send 10% to this Government, but would I give my 10% a check to someone that really needed it, yes, because thats only $60 a paycheck, $60 that, if you needed it every week, would help u get your medication so you can fuking live. Also the "rich" get the amazing Bush Tax CUT of almost 85k a year, at least the highest rollers in this country, Alan Grayson can tell you that.

$60 a week, $3120 a year - Are you unable to purchase medical insurance and dental care for that much each year? You shouldn't spend even close to that. Most of it should be available for investment. If you are responsible for your own financial future, you should be able to not only pay for medical needs, but also contribute to reducing your future needs from the government. For me, it would be a lot more than $60 a week.

-- You may have some amazing ass insurance because u can afford it, but if u just so happen to be that man or woman that becomes diseased solely because thats what your body will do when it gets older, and you 70k a year is maxed out through ur final few yrs of home payments, car notes for the kids and grand kids, charitable "gifts", your medication(s) and the cost of living and those super bills that you incurred because u needed help, u will then request help. But bitches like you guys over here huffing and puffing over a little bit of your income going to help the needy because they arent "like you" and you cant verify why they need the help, will let them die. Oh just you wait till we all bang 60's, late 70's even 80's yet cant die, but must use medication and or need routine checkups and physicals and whatnot to function in our day to day lives, seeing every fukin year we are 10, 20, 40, 50k in debt simply because we're alive. When all along, those 40+ yrs of youth we all could of put our into something for our own futures to help us survive when we need it. 1%, 6%, 11%, why do u care, its just a little bit of money. Its not just for "those other fukin people u dont know" its also for you, because all those fukin people u dont know are doing it to, for other people they dont fukin know. One day that "person u dont fukin know" could be you and those other fukin people u dont know will help you. Not because they wont to or because they care for u, but because they can and thats how it is.

Perhaps you still don't understand - plan for your OWN financial future. It is clear that you are not currently prepared for your own financial future, and have not covered all of your own needs yet. With that in mind, what makes you think that you have acquired enough knowledge to explain to those that are prepared how they should spend their money? Currently, you are one of those that is in the lower income brackets, looking for others to pay your way, and make life easier for you. Why should I, one who has already been where you are, and have worked hard and made good decisions, and lived below my means, give you the money that I have earned and worked for, for free? Specifically, why should I personally pay for your health insurance? That is what you are asking for - for me to personally pay for your health insurance.

[blaknoize]

Perhaps you still don't understand - plan for your OWN financial future. It is clear that you are not currently prepared for your own financial future, and have not covered all of your own needs yet. With that in mind, what makes you think that you have acquired enough knowledge to explain to those that are prepared how they should spend their money? Currently, you are one of those that is in the lower income brackets, looking for others to pay your way, and make life easier for you. Why should I, one who has already been where you are, and have worked hard and made good decisions, and lived below my means, give you the money that I have earned and worked for, for free? Specifically, why should I personally pay for your health insurance? That is what you are asking for - for me to personally pay for your health insurance.

I'm younger than you, my income is lower than you, my education is lower than you. I throw my numbers out there for real examples. So no, that is incorrect on me expecting and wanting hand-outs and assistance, even though we have all had assistance from family and friends to get where we are today, you have, I have. I know many who do and could use it to better their lives and get through it all to see a good future then pursue it, thats the point.