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once again as stated before I knew you would come back becuase that's the type of person you are. You would fight this until your dying day. you asked me what my experience was based of and you insult me ability to comprehend the english language when in truth you are being a hypocrit due to that fact that I explained my experience to everyone and why I do not choose to use coilovers. You should have read that but yet you still ask me why. So the question is DO YOU HAVE A READING COMPREHENSION PROBLEM? I sure dont! If you'ed like I can go in my files and see if I can find one of my thesis papers and scan it for you because once again I don't talk shit unless I can back it up. English happed to be one of my strongest suits in school so you might want to drop that subject before your horribly emberssed on a whole different playing field. I told you about the spring rates and I even gave an examples to go along with my experience. so you might want to have a mental evaluation done to see if your competant. you speak a good game but once again you will always look like a fool in the end b/c every thing you ask I answer if not had already been answered before but you still insist on asking again. You take the time to make these elabrate skits ex: YOU: "I don't use coilovers" ME: (yude) tell me why blah blah blah yep seems like your desperate to come up with ways to appear to be correct b/c if you look back I have always backed up my answers with educated answers and yet you still have and argument then I tell you that I have exprience and you tell me that's all I've been saying. You might as well tell Armstrong he can get to the moon with coilovers. guess what? He's going to tell you that you can't and he's goin to give a valid reason why not and he's going to tell you that he has experience. So I don't know about you but a VALID EXPLINATION + EXPERIENCE= A PERSON THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKIN ABOUT. So since you try to tell me that I have not given a reason here goes for the last time so that you'll get it through your scaley brain......
It is not preffered to use coilovers at the track b/c the spring rate is to high. why would this matter you may say?One reason would be chasis hop. Going around a curve at 115mph the last thing you want is chasis hop b/c everone knows what would happen if the car lifted just a litte and the wheel got a little lighter. It would be like doin 115mph on the highway and someone yanking the wheel. Not Good News. another example would be understeer. Again you might ask why. It's good to have a low center of gravity to make turning easier but with everything there is a threshold. Meaning that there is a breaking point to anything. It is a good thing to have almost no body roll but like everything there is always an exeption. If the spring rating is to high it will allow almost no body roll this will cause the car to understeer meaning you would have the big wheel effect remember what happened when you where going to fast on your big wheel and tried to turn. The wheel went which ever way you wanted but, the big wheel whent straigt. now you may say "yeah sure but the wheels were plastic thats why" but, you have to understand is that at the fastest you may have been goin is 15mph or 20 mph but in a car your doing 115mph so it's pretty much the same concept. sticky tires or not your going to slide. So to counter-act this you want to have a pretty low center of gravity with minimal body roll but it is a must to have a slight sway to give your tires that extra bite they crave when going this fast into a turn or corner. Another thing is the stress created on all of the machanical parts during a turn like this. You have to remember that this is not just a one time event; you putting stress on this part maybe as many as 300 times during a race. With the latteral G's (for those that don't know for every G it doubles the initial weight for example 100lbs at 1g would be 200lbs at 2g's would be 300lbs and so on) that these vihicles do at the track it can be up to 2x,3x or sometimes up to 4x the weight of the car pressing down on your front suspension again as many as 300 times during one event. If you use a coilover setup the canister is prone to stress cracks and ultimatley complete failure as explained by my initial story which was only at 50mph. So now imagine the catastrophic consequensis at 100+mph. So even for my little CRX if I'm holding 3g's in a turn thats 6,000lbs on that coilover setup and canister. So even in a small season maybe 20 events you are putting 6,000lbs on that canister and coilover setup MORE THAN 6,000 TIMES! Not very smart! So MR. YUDE I HOPE THOSE LITTLE EXAMPLES AND LESSONS TAUGHT YOU A VERY VALUABLE LESSON IN WHY WE DON'T USE COILOVER SETUPS IN RACING(OR AT LEAST THE SMART ONES) SO NOW YOU HAVE EXAMPLES+EXPERIENCE AND EVEN A NIFTY LITTLE STORY.
SO..... ANY MORE WORDS FROM MR.YUDE THE MASTER HIMSELF?
PLEASE DON'T COME BACK WITH SOMETHING STUPID CAUSE YOU'LL JUST BE WAISTING MY TIME WHEN BOTH YOU AND I CAR LOVERS SHOULD BE IN A GARAGE SOMEWHERE UNDER THE HOOD.
NO HARD FEELINGS DUDE BUT I DO HAVE A POINT!!!!!!
Last edited by SLEEK-CRX-SI; 06-11-2005 at 07:52 PM.

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