Quote Originally Posted by kenscivic
you have choices, you can buy kpro without them using your factory ecu, instead of 800-1000$ it costs 1500$


so are you saying that would be considered "stand alone" but sending in your ecu would be considered piggyback? :confused: even though it is the same exact thing
i couldn't have said it any more clearly...


Now if K-pro/Hondata took a honda ecu (as in bought a truckload from honda), installed all their necessary hardware (soldered in and attached all the things they sell), changed the ecu cover to something branding their company (made the ecu cover their own item, as in changing the physical appearance of it with their own thing), then sold it complete (as in a box with everything just as if you were buying an AEM EMS), then it could be considered a stand-alone BUT as of now it's just a kit that is used in conjunction with the factory ECU (as in you buy the parts and pieces to incorporate those items to you existing ECU).