Originally Posted by
vteckidd
SWEET, all hondas have standalone Engine managment now!
*sarcasm*
look we are all splitting hairs. In LAYMANS terms, last try:
5 years ago there were 2 forms of Engine Management, piggybacks, and FULL STANDALONE.
Piggybacks back then were:
Greddy Emanage
Apex VAFC
Apex SAFC
Full Standalone:
Motec
AEM EMS
DTA
Now, with the proliferation of ecu chipping, romulators etc, tuning has become MUCH easier. Hondata came out with the S100 , then S200. The s200 used a Blue Box that encrypted their ECU coding to allow ONLY hondata authorized dealers to tune the system. Then came Uberdata and Crome, BRE, Turbo Edit etc. Built on the same parameters except it was OPEN SOURCE aka FREE to download an interface.
Now Hondata has the KPRO and the S300 that dont require you to be an authorized dealer to tune their system. However, thats the ONLY thing that changed. It still requires that you use a FACTORY ecu. Their system is basically a "hack" that overrides CERTAIN ECU procedures to allow you to change vtec, air/ ignition, fuel curves. They allow launch control, boost tables, etc. ALMOST the same thing a standalone would let you do, but it still requires that you use HONDAs code system, and HONDAs ECU.
AEM EMS , DTA, MOTEC, etc use THEIR OWN CODE. They do not modify their CODE to work with your FACTORY ECU. Which is why a STANDALONE allows so much more functionality than a PIGGYBACK. They can do whatever you tell them. Piggybacks MUST stay within the factory CODE. Which is why a KPRO cannot run carburators, and why S200 cannot run Coil packs on the old B series engines, EMS can.
In closing, if you want to be TECHNICAL, KPRO is a PIGGYBACK, AEM is a full standalone
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