Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
Now if K-pro/Hondata took a honda ecu, installed all their necessary hardware, changed the ecu cover to something branding their company, then sold it complete, then it could be considered a stand-alone but as of now it's just a kit that is used in conjunction with the factory ECU.

you have choices, you can buy kpro without them using your factory ecu, instead of 800-1000$ it costs 1500$


so are you saying that would be considered "stand alone" but sending in your ecu would be considered piggyback? :confused: even though it is the same exact thing