So I decided to go with a 350Z

[amped4life33]

I had posted a comment earlier in the week about an S2000. Well I got down there and the car just wasnt in good condition. I got home and I was a little bummed cause I really wanted it...But I got back on Craigslist and searched around and found a 2004 350Z thats daytona blue...I went and drove it and it was pretty much badass...Im going over there to close out the deal tomorrow...

[DieselNuts]

have you done your research on these cars?

[Frög]

why? lame..

[GirlieZ]

yea what are your plans? power is expensive, n/a or fi

and frog i know a n/a vq or two that will give you a run for you kraut

[nvmysrt]

z33's are great cars!!! i'm not just saying that because i'm a nissan fan boy, but they are. s2000's are nice cars, but not good for a daily driver...cramped...have to rev the engine to get power...the z is an all around smoother, nicer, and more powerful car.

[Jason..]

i got one 4 sale 19500

[GirlieZ]

you selling yours jason?

[DieselNuts]

I've got a 2004 Z 2+2 for sale...

[Jason..]

yep

you selling yours jason?

[SouthSide Tay]

not a big fan of 350z's but i love the look of G35's but it might be out of your price range.

VQ35's are a hell of a motor but it is just too expensive to own one and produce the power that most people out there want.

Just imagine your tranny going out on you and you have to replace it......? too expensive for me ill stick with my hondas thank you

[ATK_Designs]

OP, 350z is a nice car. However, it's a very expensive game that you're stepping into. It's going to cost at least 10K to mildly mod that car. So unless u're up to the point where u want to keep it pretty much stock, then get it. Otherwise, it can turn into a costly game.

[DieselNuts]

not a big fan of 350z's but i love the look of G35's but it might be out of your price range.

VQ35's are a hell of a motor but it is just too expensive to own one and produce the power that most people out there want.

Just imagine your tranny going out on you and you have to replace it......? too expensive for me ill stick with my hondas thank you

OP, 350z is a nice car. However, it's a very expensive game that you're stepping into. It's going to cost at least 10K to mildly mod that car. So unless u're up to the point where u want to keep it pretty much stock, then get it. Otherwise, it can turn into a costly game.

These guys speak the troof. If you want to step up to baller status, my 04 G35 Coupe 6sp. w/brembos is for sale...

[afwfjustin]

Should have gotten a different s2k

Have fun with your purchase though!

[amped4life33]

Well I've had the Z now for about 4 days and im happy with it...It's my first really powerful car..im really gettin the hang of the 6 spd and once i get my navigation system put in im gonna start workin on the performance..

[ATK_Designs]

congrats. If you want to talk about modding it (performance, handling, etc.) , getting parts, let me know. I can help you get stuffs cheaper than many places.

[DieselNuts]

I have a few nic nacs for sale too.

[iloveboost]

$10,000 just to make it a little faster? That sounds like a huge waste of money to me.

[EJ25RUN]

350z before 2006 suck!

[DieselNuts]

350z before 2006 suck!

What is your reasoning behind this?

[tony]

$10,000 just to make it a little faster? That sounds like a huge waste of money to me.

Save the money, drop the Z and get an E46 M3.. all problems are solved

[DieselNuts]

Save the money, drop the Z and get an E46 M3.. all problems are solved

ehhh...kinda. The M3 will cost you almost 10Gs more, and as far as making more power than stock, your in the same boat. You have to go FI to get good power out of it, and aftermarket parts are even MORE expensive...

[EJ25RUN]

What is your reasoning behind this?

i think the zs with the twin intake are much better!

actually i looked it over and found that the hr version of the vq35 started in 07. + 07 and above zs look better with led tails and better headlights. i alsio like the raised hood on the 07s

[EJ25RUN]

I had posted a comment earlier in the week about an S2000. Well I got down there and the car just wasnt in good condition. I got home and I was a little bummed cause I really wanted it...But I got back on Craigslist and searched around and found a 2004 350Z thats daytona blue...I went and drove it and it was pretty much badass...Im going over there to close out the deal tomorrow...

#1
please dont neg rep people if it doesn't make a difference!

#2
i explained why i prefer the 06+ cars better!

i think the zs with the twin intake are much better!

actually i looked it over and found that the hr version of the vq35 started in 07. + 07 and above zs look better with led tails and better headlights. i alsio like the raised hood on the 07s

[tony]

ehhh...kinda. The M3 will cost you almost 10Gs more, and as far as making more power than stock, your in the same boat. You have to go FI to get good power out of it, and aftermarket parts are even MORE expensive...

For the $10k you would have spent in mods you would have a completely stock car that is probably faster than the modified Z (arguable)

[iloveboost]

I believe E46 M3s dyno somewhere in the 270rwhp range while stock 350Zs (older ones, not sure about the new ones) dyno somewhere around 230whp with similar weight.

I saw 2-3 different 350Zs dyno at a Main Stream dyno day between 225whp and 235whp. Granted, this was 3 years ago so I don't know if the new ones make anymore power.

[amped4life33]

Theres no reason for you to make a post saying that a persons car sucks..there is a type of car that is very popular on this board that i happen to think sucks but you dont see me telling the owner that it does...it's just sort of rude...

[EJ25RUN]

Theres no reason for you to make a post saying that a persons car sucks..there is a type of car that is very popular on this board that i happen to think sucks but you dont see me telling the owner that it does...it's just sort of rude...

come down buddy...remember this is the internet and i can say what i want.
Granted that statement was kind of plain and i didn't relize you had already bought the car, i thought you were asking what we thought: so i told you.

If you like your Z, then thats fine! Dont worry how rude i am bout it.

[ATK_Designs]

Let me be fair:

Pre 07 350z = Good bang for the bucks. Forget power, just improve on wheels, tires, suspension, and you'll have a nice handling car

07 350z = Very good in power because of the new HR motor. Expensive Z never the less

E46 M3 in place of an 04Z is not wise for OP's budget because it's about 10-12K more than the G. Insurance is a pita. Maintenance is a b1tch and costly.

If OP has more budget, then E46 M3 is definitely the way to go. Judging from his posts, I doubt it. So overall, the 04Z he bought is a good choice.

[tony]

Let me be fair:

Pre 07 350z = Good bang for the bucks. Forget power, just improve on wheels, tires, suspension, and you'll have a nice handling car

07 350z = Very good in power because of the new HR motor. Expensive Z never the less

E46 M3 in place of an 04Z is not wise for OP's budget because it's about 10-12K more than the G. Insurance is a pita. Maintenance is a b1tch and costly.

If OP has more budget, then E46 M3 is definitely the way to go. Judging from his posts, I doubt it. So overall, the 04Z he bought is a good choice.

I was just saying if he's going to start modifying the Z it will not stop, I know this all too well myself and I KNOW you do too Kev

I'm a hypocrite though cause I just ordered a clutch and flywheel for my G, exhaust.. wheels and a drop are next.

[Crazy Asian]

You have a Z? Tony didnt you say you dropped the G35 and wanted something practical?

[DieselNuts]

i think the zs with the twin intake are much better!

actually i looked it over and found that the hr version of the vq35 started in 07. + 07 and above zs look better with led tails and better headlights. i alsio like the raised hood on the 07s

You're right, HR started in 07, but I think the LED taillights came in 06. Not sure about the headlights. Originally, I thought you were gonna say something about the rev-up vs. non rev-up engines...

For the $10k you would have spent in mods you would have a completely stock car that is probably faster than the modified Z (arguable)

You are right about that.

I believe E46 M3s dyno somewhere in the 270rwhp range while stock 350Zs (older ones, not sure about the new ones) dyno somewhere around 230whp with similar weight.

I saw 2-3 different 350Zs dyno at a Main Stream dyno day between 225whp and 235whp. Granted, this was 3 years ago so I don't know if the new ones make anymore power.

My G made 224rwhp bone stock, after my CAI, upper plenum, testpipes and cat back, I was making 240rwhp. They new vq35hr is making around 250rwhp bone stock, but i have seen a dyno with only test pipes and exhaust on an HR and it made 264rwhp (i think).

I was just saying if he's going to start modifying the Z it will not stop, I know this all too well myself and I KNOW you do too Kev

I didnt get as deep as you two, but I know from first hand experience too...unfortunately

[tony]

You have a Z? Tony didnt you say you dropped the G35 and wanted something practical?

I did but then turned around and bought another G.. I just missed it way too much. I thought about an M3.. and still do but it was something about the G35 I liked. So I'm going back to the setup that I enjoyed the most (not turbos)

[Nemesis]

come down buddy...remember this is the internet and i can say what i want.
.

Thats not entirely true.

[ZeDFuNk]

Save the money, drop the Z and get an E46 M3.. all problems are solved

unless something goes wrong like all electronic model BMW's do.

or the fact that test pipes, will put you right next to an M3 on the highway

the price of an M3 is way too high.. and for a 6 year old car you're paying 29 grand for a 2002...2003 IF YOU'RE LUCKY. no thanks. I thought about getting an M3, and the Z is defeinitely the better choice. Unless you don't care about money.

[tony]

M3 debate is subject to opinion. Cost is definitely higher but for the value, even at 6 years old I think it is the better choice.

I would LOVE to see a Z with only test pipes run next to an M3. Better yet show me an M3 owner that admits a test pipe'd Z was neck and neck with them and I will admit I'm wrong.

That said, I love the VQ

[DieselNuts]

or the fact that test pipes, will put you right next to an M3 on the highway

That definately isn't a factual statement. I personally have raced an E46 M3 that was 100% stock when I had all my mods (cai, plenum, testpipes & catback) and he still pulled on me once we got up to about 110mph, then he steadly walked away.

[EJ25RUN]

Thats not entirely true.

well i said so

[EJ25RUN]

You're right, HR started in 07, but I think the LED taillights came in 06. Not sure about the headlights. Originally, I thought you were gonna say something about the rev-up vs. non rev-up engines...

explain...

[DieselNuts]

explain...

Here you go

Q: What is the difference between the REV-UP (300hp) and the NON-REVUP (287hp) Motor? Which one do I have?
A: Rev-up Motor has higher peak HP, lower peak torque, and a higher redline (7000RPM)
Non-rev-up Motor has lower peak HP, higher peak torque, and a lower redline (6600RPM)

Rev-Up Motor has variable Intake and Exhaust timing.
Non-Revup Motor ONLY has variable Intake timing.

You can tell which one you have by looking at your redline on your tachometer.

Q: What is a MREV, and MREV2? Which one do I need for my rev-up (300hp) or non-rev-up 287hp motor?

For 2003 - 2006 350Z's / G35's, Nissan has designed two different types of lower collector:

REV-UP lower collector from the 300hp motor = shorter runners which are tuned for lower peak torque, but higher peak horsepower.
NON-REV-UP lower collector from the 287hp motor = longer runners which are tuned for higher peak torque, but lower peak horsepower.

MREV = same exact thing as the non-rev-up lower collector, but Motordyne Enginering has given it a name.
MREV2 = Using the MREV as a starting material, this is a CUSTOM lower plenum that is sold by Motordyne Engineering. It has been precisely machined to remove aluminum from critical locations on the MREV. In other words, it is like a much improved version of the MREV which reduces restriction and improves HP / TQ.

If you have a non-revup motor (6600RPM redline), your best bang for your buck is to get the 5/16" spacer. The 5/16" spacer makes the most HP for the money. OR, you may choose to get the MREV2. By replacing your stock lower collector (MREV) with this better flowing version, you will make better "area under the curve" on the dyno in terms of HP gain. My opinion is that you should choose one or the other -- either MREV2 OR 5/16" spacer. If you get both, the HP gain will exhibit "diminishing returns", meaning you will spend a lot more money to make not much extra HP. So, usually the recommended option for the non-revup guys is to get the 5/16" spacer.

If you are a rev-up owner (7000RPM redline), you will basically only benefit from getting BOTH a 5/16" spacer and the MREV2. If you get the MREV2 only, your mid-range torque will increase but your maximum HP will drop off severely. If you only get the 5/16" spacer, you will not see a benefit. Several dynos have proven that for the rev-up motor, you basically need both the spacer and the MREV2, which will make a lot of midrange torque, without sacrificing too much peak HP.

[ZeDFuNk]

That definately isn't a factual statement. I personally have raced an E46 M3 that was 100% stock when I had all my mods (cai, plenum, testpipes & catback) and he still pulled on me once we got up to about 110mph, then he steadly walked away.

well not factual with all Z's obviously, All Z's put down different numbers. I personally have a friend with a 2006 SMG M3 and when i put on a catback and CAI i pulled on him by half a car on the highway and he wasn't catching me by the time i hit 120.