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    Default E30 ///Monster Concept

    I'll give it two days before these pics I photoshopped are on every single BMW forum, everyone wants to know what it would look like...







    How about a completely carbon fiber body?

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    that has to be the coolest thing ever.

    i vote chris bengal off and you on!

    Some one make that car right now.

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    Already saw the pictures at the meet.

    Would be soooo Badass to make one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    that has to be the coolest thing ever.

    i vote chris bengal off and you on!

    Some one make that car right now.
    Someone buy my damn parts and I will! I'm keeping the Porsche brakes for it though

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    Some one make that car right now.
    VW already did its a MK2 Rallye golf



    AWD g60

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    SEMA 2008? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatfnr
    VW already did its a MK2 Rallye golf



    AWD g60

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    AWD, RWD? There are Group A Mk1 Golfs but I have yet to see one that is not FWD...

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    AWD, RWD? There are Group A Mk1 Golfs but I have yet to see one that is not FWD...
    AWD

    The only ones in the US are grey market i believe. Eurotech has one IIRC

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatfnr
    AWD

    The only ones in the US are grey market i believe. Eurotech has one IIRC

    Lee
    Sweet, any idea on power/torque?

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    whats funny is there are vee dub guys

    trying to make the mk2s look like the e30 M3



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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Sweet, any idea on power/torque?
    http://www.globalcar.com/datasheet/V...olf_Rallye.htm

    there are tons of engine swaps that are doable as well. Ive seen a couple of VR6T swaps done on these cars.

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    dude, sic as hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatfnr
    http://www.globalcar.com/datasheet/V...olf_Rallye.htm

    there are tons of engine swaps that are doable as well. Ive seen a couple of VR6T swaps done on these cars.

    Lee
    Interesting but I think driveline parts would be a hell to get...and being supercharged with only 158hp/170lbs-ft torque it would definitely need a swap! Plus that's about 40% the output i'm expecting at low boost

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Interesting but I think driveline parts would be a hell to get...and being supercharged with only 158hp/170lbs-ft torque it would definitely need a swap! Plus that's about 40-50% the output i'm expecting at mid level boost
    totally right, driveline parts would prolly be a bi+ch and a half to get

    yup and the numbers are pretty low stock but hey it has potential. btw i would have loved to see a hatch version of an e30. I use to have a 318ti which is the hatch e36 and loved it.

    Now if BMW would only bring the new 135 hatch to the states

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatfnr
    totally right, driveline parts would prolly be a bi+ch and a half to get

    yup and the numbers are pretty low stock but hey it has potential. btw i would have loved to see a hatch version of an e30. I use to have a 318ti which is the hatch e36 and loved it.

    Now if BMW would only bring the new 135 hatch to the states

    Lee
    I thought about the 318ti but it just doesn't look aggresive enough to me, kinda girlish if you ask me although i've seen a couple wide body ti's with tons of power but there is no way i could compete with them or their budget. Not to mention the donor car would easily be $3,000-4,000 more to begin with. That cost alone will get me the 11lb twin disc clutch & flywheel package I want and complete race suspension with sways for the E30. So I'll just make my own M coupe!

    BMW did make a 2 door (2 deure) "touring" model called the stoere that few people in this world have ever seen or even heard of...it's simply a two door version of the E30 station wagon with what resembles the fender flares from the old 2002 Turbo. I'll post pics of it tonight...

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    i think it will look pretty good in black.

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    Haha, I was gonna post the MK2 Rallye Vdub. And yes Eurotech do have a red one I think. He's been trying to sell it a couple of times I think.
    Representing VWs.

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    excuse the NOOB question but where would the hatch be sourced from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Octopus™
    excuse the NOOB question but where would the hatch be sourced from?
    What do you mean?

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    man thatd be the sex (the m concept)... and drop a e46m3 motor in it with turbo... would be a beast straight from hell.

    i saw one of those vw rally golfs the other day on the highway... it was blue and had an electronic cutout exhaust? when they open with a button for better flow? it sounded mean as hell though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confusedkorean
    man thatd be the sex (the m concept)... and drop a e46m3 motor in it with turbo... would be a beast straight from hell.

    i saw one of those vw rally golfs the other day on the highway... it was blue and had an electronic cutout exhaust? when they open with a button for better flow? it sounded mean as hell though.
    servo actuated cut-out but i can just about bet you the anti-lag will blow it apart

    http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/QTEC/index.php


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    man that **** looks nice as hell. someone make me one!!
    weak civic

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    servo actuated cut-out but i can just about bet you the anti-lag will blow it apart

    http://www.quicktimeperformance.com/QTEC/index.php

    yeah that was it...he kinda revved at me when i used to have my sr20 s14 lol i was like u'd kill me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbo jetta
    man that **** looks nice as hell. someone make me one!!
    $25k and guaranteed to beat a Mclaren F1 in the 1/4 mile, what color would you like and how would you like to pay?

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    S2k yellow and ill pay my SOul LOLz JK

    they prolly wouldnt want it cause im half white and asian though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    What do you mean?
    how could the back end of the car be made?
    are you talking about piecing together an E30 that looks like this?
    if so what car would the rear come from?
    or would there be just a heck of a lot of fabrication?

    sorry for not reading through all the conversations held up until this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Octopus™
    how could the back end of the car be made?
    are you talking about piecing together an E30 that looks like this?
    if so what car would the rear come from?
    or would there be just a heck of a lot of fabrication?

    sorry for not reading through all the conversations held up until this point
    ah, ok! There's two options...

    1) Locate an E30 Touring model (4 door station wagon, see below) and use the rear clip behind the wheels. Considering there's only a very small handful in the US and shipping cost on a parts car from Europe would be outrageous that's not going to happen. They were available in Canada but extremely rare.

    2) Shorten an E30 coupe behind the fuel tank door just like people have for years with mini trucks then stretch the C pillar to match.

    Before you ask about structural integrity, it will have a minimum of a 6 point cage along with multiple gussets between the body and cage. The shock towers will be tied into it as well so in essence the final product will be a tube frame car...




    1989 E30 318i Touring


    E30 325i Touring M-Technic II

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    ZOMG'Z. You should deffinately make this. It would be the sickest e30 I have ever. **drooling**

    Have you ever seen any of the first tourings? That is what this reminds me off. I might post pics of one later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8ercof316
    ZOMG'Z. You should deffinately make this. It would be the sickest e30 I have ever. **drooling**

    Have you ever seen any of the first tourings? That is what this reminds me off. I might post pics of one later.
    I mentioned the 2 Deure Stoere Touring in post #15, think they were made in 1986/87 but extremely rare if they were ever even a production vehicle...nobody knows for sure.

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    ok ok ok.... stop with this tuner nonsense!

    This is how this car needs to be made. Forgive for cost going through the roof.

    1. Powerplant..... NA from the 2.0 ETCC car


    2. I like the interior and chassis to have two seats and be built to FIA Group N rules.

    2. Paint......


    yes i realize cost = $300,000...... but its ok!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    ok ok ok.... stop with this tuner nonsense!

    This is how this car needs to be made. Forgive for cost going through the roof.

    1. Powerplant..... NA from the 2.0 ETCC car
    http://www.speedsportlife.com/photop...s/P0023106.jpg

    2. I like the interior and chassis to have two seats and be built to FIA Group N rules.

    2. Paint......
    http://www.diecastcar.co.kr/shopping...age/dlist7.jpg

    yes i realize cost = $300,000...... but its ok!
    lol I wouldn't object to a 275hp 8,500 RPM 4 cylinder engine but for just a tiny percentage of what that one cost I can have more horsepower with TONS of torque and if I gernade the M50 you can always find them all day long for under $1,500. I mean, you can get brand new remanufactured one with all new internals for $1,800, lol...cheaper than Hondas!!

    As for the cage, I highly doubt it will ever meet ETCC requirements but I want it to look and work just as good...the question is x-bracing, ladder bars, or both?!

    I love the Jagermeister paint scheme, both on the e30 M3 and the Porsche 930/935's, but i'm gonna have to say no unless someone wants to donate the paint and decals! I'd rather keep her really clean looking, just like the interior of the above ETCC car, BUT I want all carbon fiber and black suede inside...
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    lol I wouldn't object to a 275hp 8,500 RPM 4 cylinder engine but for just a tiny percentage of what that one cost I can have more horsepower with TONS of torque and if I gernade the M50 you can always find them all day long for under $1,500. I mean, you can get brand new remanufactured one with all new internals for $1,800, lol...cheaper than Hondas!!

    As for the cage, I highly doubt it will ever meet ETCC requirements but I want it to look and work just as good...the question is x-bracing, ladder bars, or both?!

    I love the Jagermeister paint scheme, both on the e30 M3 and the Porsche 930/935's, but i'm gonna have to say no unless someone wants to donate the paint and decals! I'd rather keep her really clean looking, just like the interior of the above ETCC car, BUT I want all carbon fiber and black suede inside...

    hmm............thinks.........

    i guess the vision of early 90's DTM took me over stupid.

    power plant... no matter what keep it NA or

    >DIESEL< ...... 2009 BMW ETCC plans



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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    I mentioned the 2 Deure Stoere Touring in post #15, think they were made in 1986/87 but extremely rare if they were ever even a production vehicle...nobody knows for sure.
    No, they were indeed a production vehicle. They were only available in germany though, a friend of mine on vwvortex has one that he imported here from somewhere in germany. I can't seem to find the pics of it right now, I am looking though.

    I sure hope I didn't delete the pics.

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    WOW SEX

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    I would rock the sh1t out of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk8ercof316
    No, they were indeed a production vehicle. They were only available in germany though, a friend of mine on vwvortex has one that he imported here from somewhere in germany. I can't seem to find the pics of it right now, I am looking though.

    I sure hope I didn't delete the pics.
    hurrr you go...
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    people wouldn't know what the **** to see if that things was runnin around

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    hurrr you go...
    Actually the first car pictured in that article is the car I was talking about, the BMW Touring 2000 tii uit 1973. That is the one my friend has, that he imported from germany. This car, http://www.bmw-02-club.de/touring.htm

    That is the car I thought about when I first saw your "e30 monster". The back part kind of reminded me of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    hurrr you go...
    Also, that looks like a zender body kit or bbs body kits, which were also rare and are still rare today. But the 2 door touring look tits. :boobies: :boobies:

    OO=[][]=OO (Not my car)

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    holy sickness.
    I WANTTT! ill trade you a miata
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