The REAL Barack Obama. The one the media NEVER shows!

[josh green]

Its an assumption backed up with nothing of substance or merit..

You cannot prove to me that black men have it harder than anyone else. You were raised in school given all the opportunities that anyone else is given. It doesnt matter where you are from, or how wealthy of a family someone has. You could have been given everything and turn out to be a worthless piece of crap and have nothing, same goes for living in a rough place and having the drive to get educated to get a good job and live a better life than you are now. Its all about choices.

[tony]

You cannot prove to me that black men have it harder than anyone else.

I dont have to prove, I live it. I don't claim to have it harder than others but please do not assume for a second that my journey had nothing to do with the color of my skin.

[josh green]

I dont have to prove, I live it. I don't claim to have it harder than others but please do not assume for a second that my journey had nothing to do with the color of my skin.

Then the generalization that everyone is trying to make it harder for you is bull. Thats not to say you havent met some ****ty people that have made things harder for you. But generalizing that its hard for a black man is just ludacris.

I'm done, I think there is nothing left of this horse.

[osnap]

This thread is disgusting, and absolutely dripping with ignorance and bigotry. I cant wait til I cast my vote for Obama so that, come his induction, I can see the ignorant smirks wiped off of some of your faces.

[One_Bad_SHO]

M.C.CAIN
John McCain
He's Indiana Jones meets GI Jane
M.C. Cain
Yes we cain
A natural born leader like Sadam Hussein

M.C. Cain in the house! (I'm a Senator!)
M.C. Cain and he's here to represent
He's got well trained in the house (representatives!)
Bout to keep it white in the white house!

I'm 71,
And im pure white chocolate
Dropped vietnam bombs right from my cockpit
Got caught up -was a prisoner of war
Now thats an inconveniance,


......................and im too tired for the rest

[MistaCee]

That is total BS, I'm not black but I think its way HARDER for a black man in society to survive and be seccessful at life. Lets say there is a job opening at a big corp. and a black man and a white man both apply for the job, both have the same amount of education and presented them self really well to the employer, who do you think will get hired? The white man, and I'm not trying to be racist or anything but its the truth.

Respect man. He's not black, yet he can see the discrimination and disadvantages that we as black people (and the whites that also fight for us) go through.

[BB6dohcvtec]

That is total BS, I'm not black but I think its way HARDER for a black man in society to survive and be seccessful at life. Lets say there is a job opening at a big corp. and a black man and a white man both apply for the job, both have the same amount of education and presented them self really well to the employer, who do you think will get hired? The white man, and I'm not trying to be racist or anything but its the truth.

I actually think they would both get hired (affirmative action). One of my friends once asked would you feel degraded if you were a affirmative action hire? My answer hell no because they are still paying me, I will take full advantage of the advantages offered to me in life.

[The Yousef]

For those defending Barack and taking a stand on this whole black vs. white thing.. you're wasting your time. People don't come to threads like this with objectivity, even those who come to ask why certain things are the way they are.. they're not looking for understanding but rather a reason to shoot down your ideals.

I've spent countless hours going back and forth on subjects like this one but after a while you realize the knowledge is falling upon dead ears. So honestly, who cares? Let them believe what they believe..

I do find it funny that those who are not black know so much about the black experience.. that those who probably do not know the basics of politics or the ideals that this country was founded on have such strong opinions of the process. It is what it is, ignorance is bliss and without an open and objective mind I'm sure many of you will still have the same amount of knowledge 20 years from now that you have today.

By the way, I'd love to see an argument against Obama that is original and has not been heard on Fox News or talk radio.

indeed.

that's why i stop trying. if you are ignorant you are going to stay ignorant. what a sad way to live life...

[AirMax95]

Absolutely.

Jesse Jackson an his RAINBOW Coalition

Sharpton

Now Obama.

Most of them got to power by building upon racist talk and instilling fear in their constiuents

Look at the most RACIST organizations in the country. NAACP?

Come on wake up.

Close minded? Me? no im just educated.

Mccain vs Obama recent polls show mccain up+3.

Hmmm......How is Obama using RACE to instill fear?

Actually let me start here: I don't support all of what Jesse and Al do or say, but you have to remember where they came from!

They do not drop the racist ball SIMPLY because there is a WHITE RACIST waiting to pick it up. Blacks (or, African Americans) went through alot of **** sir, and you know what, that "****" is still in society today. The difference is that it now trickles to the work place (ALOT) when it comes to raises/promotions, and other social issues. Its disguised! The second Al or Jesse leaves the small issues alone, the RACIST population will emerge worse than ever! Sharpton instills the FEAR in those who are RACIST to remind them that they will not get away with it. I commend them for their acts, w/o them, America could sure start to revert back the "old times"

The NAACP is not racist......I am a member, and the purpose is a follows:

The primary purpose of the NAACP is to ensure political, educational, social, and economic equality for minority groups in the United States. The NAACP presently ensures equality for all minorities and holds beneficial programs such as career fairs to aid the groups in finding work. Other programs such as Financial Empowerment Initiative, Armed Services and Veteran’s Affairs, Health, Labor, Religious Affairs, and Voter Empowerment also contribute in aiding the minority groups.

Why is it needed, you may ask. It is to ensure the MAJORITY in this country do not SCREW ANY FURTHER the minorities in AMERICA.

What else....hmmmm.....

Give Obama his credit, he got where is for being who he is. He cares about the people, not his own face in the history books. He is educated enough to get the nomination from his state, his party, and ultimately the respect of the new and old generation.

BTW, that Hiliary chick brought up the RACISM, lol. Obama merely stated the need for a more unified country, being that it is so diverse.

[AirMax95]

Also!!!! Could you please stop using Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton for your basis of arguement.
There is PLENTY of other LEADERSHIP in America, they are BLACK, and they are for ALL PEOPLE.

Michael Eric Dyson
Dr. Cornel West
Jeff "Cousin Jeff" Johnson
Warren Ballentin

Google the above names, update your education. Al and Jesse did what they had to for there ERA overall. They were FORCED to stand up for the CIVIL rights of AMERICA.

Of that group, Dr. Cornel West is the only one who was around for the King, Jackson, Sharpton times that changed with the times.

Get over it.......MANY, not all, people are RACIST.......PEOPLE!!!!!! **** a color, PEOPLE ARE RACIST......

I love AMERICA and I have faith in Obama to stand by his word and help shape this UBER DIVERSE country into a POSITIVE world leader again.

[Vteckidd]

This thread is disgusting, and absolutely dripping with ignorance and bigotry. I cant wait til I cast my vote for Obama so that, come his induction, I can see the ignorant smirks wiped off of some of your faces.

Al this thread proves is how ignorant the american voters are. PERIOD.

Vote for Obama, and if he wins, GOD HELP US ALL.

I mean this just shows how we are all a bunch of SHEEP. A bunch of non thinkers who want everything handed to us.

Lets give universal health care! but i have no idea how to pay for it

Lets end the war in iraq! but i dont know how to do it.

Lets use dilomacy! But i want to sit down with Terrorists and negotiate!

Lets give jobs to the people! Wait, isnt unemployment at an all time LOW RIGHT now?

Lets give the sick children medical coverage! Wait , we already do that.

All Obama preaches is sh it the public wants to hear, but is UNEDUCATED ON! So he garners support from people that dont know ANYTHING ABOUT THE ISSUES.

The ignorance in this thread is appalling, but then again i expected it.

[Vteckidd]

They do not drop the racist ball SIMPLY because there is a WHITE RACIST waiting to pick it up. Blacks (or, African Americans) went through alot of **** sir, and you know what, that "****" is still in society today. The difference is that it now trickles to the work place (ALOT) when it comes to raises/promotions, and other social issues. Its disguised! The second Al or Jesse leaves the small issues alone, the RACIST population will emerge worse than ever! Sharpton instills the FEAR in those who are RACIST to remind them that they will not get away with it. I commend them for their acts, w/o them, America could sure start to revert back the "old times"

Why is it needed, you may ask. It is to ensure the MAJORITY in this country do not SCREW ANY FURTHER the minorities in AMERICA.

Spoken like a person who wants a handout

GImme a break, slavery was over 100 years ago. This is the problem with society.

NAACP is the most RACIST organization in the country PERIOD. I dont have to site the numerous reasons why.

I want to go on an on about how stupid , idiotic and ignorant you are. You and the rest of "black america" with your feelings need to wake up, stop blaming the white man, and take control for yourself.

[unkn0wndj]

Spoken like a person who wants a handout

GImme a break, slavery was over 100 years ago. This is the problem with society.

NAACP is the most RACIST organization in the country PERIOD. I dont have to site the numerous reasons why.

I want to go on an on about how stupid , idiotic and ignorant you are. You and the rest of "black america" with your feelings need to wake up, stop blaming the white man, and take control for yourself.

Enough said. I'm with Mr. Kidd in this thread.

[AirMax95]

Al this thread proves is how ignorant the american voters are. PERIOD.

Vote for Obama, and if he wins, GOD HELP US ALL.

I mean this just shows how we are all a bunch of SHEEP. A bunch of non thinkers who want everything handed to us.

Lets give universal health care! but i have no idea how to pay for it

Lets end the war in iraq! but i dont know how to do it.

Lets use dilomacy! But i want to sit down with Terrorists and negotiate!

Lets give jobs to the people! Wait, isnt unemployment at an all time LOW RIGHT now?

Lets give the sick children medical coverage! Wait , we already do that.

All Obama preaches is sh it the public wants to hear, but is UNEDUCATED ON! So he garners support from people that dont know ANYTHING ABOUT THE ISSUES.

The ignorance in this thread is appalling, but then again i expected it.

You are entitled to your opinion......

Think BIGGER than plain sight. Obama is addressing the issues that are fueling the American people

Health Care = money spent on the damn war.........
Economic Death = money spent on the damn war......
Diplomacy = look at the damn war.......
The damn war = look at the damn war........

Now, before I get bashed, I DO NOT SUPPORT THE WAR. I SUPPORT THE WARRIORS OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY THAT ARE DOING THEIR JOB.

[Vteckidd]

You are entitled to your opinion......

Think BIGGER than plain sight. Obama is addressing the issues that are fueling the American people

Health Care = money spent on the damn war.........
Economic Death = money spent on the damn war......
Diplomacy = look at the damn war.......
The damn war = look at the damn war........

Now, before I get bashed, I DO NOT SUPPORT THE WAR. I SUPPORT THE WARRIORS OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY THAT ARE DOING THEIR JOB.

WOW, and this is the reason why america is going down the drain. Our UNEDUCATED youth who blames everything on everyone else.

Its the wars fault we dont have universal health care? well what happened when Clinton was in office?

Its the wars fault the dollar is down? No its because of 9/11 and because the economy my friend is an up an down system. Peaks and Valleys.

Diplomacy ? so we should sit down an talk to Saddam, oh wait we tried that for 12 YEARS! We should sit down with Iran , even though they say America and ISrael deserve to die a nuclear death, we shouild still sit down and talk it over with them and try to reach a compromise. GIMME A FU CKIN BREAK.

The war, yeah it sucks, we underestimated the task, but pulling out NOW would be the WORST THING TO DO. All our soldiers would have died in vein. We are making great progress in Iraq, the media just doesnt want to talk about it.

[AirMax95]

Spoken like a person who wants a handout

GImme a break, slavery was over 100 years ago. This is the problem with society.

NAACP is the most RACIST organization in the country PERIOD. I dont have to site the numerous reasons why.

I want to go on an on about how stupid , idiotic and ignorant you are. You and the rest of "black america" with your feelings need to wake up, stop blaming the white man, and take control for yourself.

I shall assure you sir:
1) I do not want a handout
2) I do not expect a handout

Now sir, you seem to not be able to have a discussion without calling names. It seems that you have a few personal issues that you need to settle with yourself.

BUT, because I have nothing better to do, I will entertain you further.

No one is blaming the "WHITE MAN" for anything. I posted based on the fact that there are still issues that arise where SOME people, who have the RACIST MINDSET of the PEOPLE 100 years ago, that could give 2 cents about civil rights.

I am proud to be me, proud to know my history, proud to be American. I gained my education, took care of business, and seem to be a good citizen.

Funny though.......you call ALL black people idiotic and ignorant.....and stupid....

Damn Mike, I didn't know

[Spektrewing386]

Diplomacy ? so we should sit down an talk to Saddam, oh wait we tried that for 12 YEARS!

And still they invaded us!


Oh, wait... we invaded them.

[AirMax95]

WOW, and this is the reason why america is going down the drain. Our UNEDUCATED youth who blames everything on everyone else.

Its the wars fault we dont have universal health care? well what happened when Clinton was in office?

Its the wars fault the dollar is down? No its because of 9/11 and because the economy my friend is an up an down system. Peaks and Valleys.

Diplomacy ? so we should sit down an talk to Saddam, oh wait we tried that for 12 YEARS! We should sit down with Iran , even though they say America and ISrael deserve to die a nuclear death, we shouild still sit down and talk it over with them and try to reach a compromise. GIMME A FU CKIN BREAK.

The war, yeah it sucks, we underestimated the task, but pulling out NOW would be the WORST THING TO DO. All our soldiers would have died in vein. We are making great progress in Iraq, the media just doesnt want to talk about it.

uneducated = not

WTF? Where am I blaming someone? The war is not a person.

I did not quote universal health care......Health care in general could have benefited from some of those funds.

The failing economy could have benefited from the senseless war funding. I understand Economics very well. I did not say that the war was the ULTIMATE REASON, but it does play a significant part.

Diplomacy....dude the past 12 years were the spent with many of the US leaders attempting to bully people! IF you and I had an argument about a topic, that you felt I was wrong about something, and you come to me disrespectfully, do you think I will cooperate? NO!

I do not agree that pulling out of the war immediately is the answer, fighting it further isnt either. I agree that it seems no one has the answer, not even Obama!


Again sir, do not assume that because I do not agree with your views and opinions, that I am an idiot, ignorant, stupid, nor uneducated.

[JITB]

Spoken like a person who wants a handout

GImme a break, slavery was over 100 years ago. This is the problem with society.

NAACP is the most RACIST organization in the country PERIOD. I dont have to site the numerous reasons why.

I want to go on an on about how stupid , idiotic and ignorant you are. You and the rest of "black america" with your feelings need to wake up, stop blaming the white man, and take control for yourself.

Whats so racist about a group of people deciding, if we arent gonna be treated fair because we are black. Than we will take care of ourselves...

You say black people want handouts all the time..BUT at the same time you talk so much **** about the things that were created because blacks werent being treated fair.

NAACP
The NAACP was formed in response to the 1908 race riot in Springfield, capital of Illinois and birthplace of President Abraham Lincoln. Appalled at the violence that was committed against blacks, a group of white liberals that included Mary White Ovington and Oswald Garrison Villard, both the descendants of abolitionists, issued a call for a meeting to discuss racial justice. Some 60 people, only 7 of whom were African American (including W. E. B. Du Bois, Ida B. Wells-Barnett, and Mary Church Terrell), signed the call, which was released on the centennial of Lincoln's birth. Echoing the focus of Du Bois's militant all-black Niagara Movement, the NAACP's stated goal was to secure for all people the rights guaranteed in the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments to the United States Constitution, which promised an end to slavery, the equal protection of the law, and universal adult male suffrage, respectively.

UNCF

UNCF was founded 64 years ago on April 25, 1944, by Dr. Frederick Patterson, president of Tuskegee Institute (now Tuskegee University), Mary McLeod Bethune, president of Bethune-Cookman College (now Bethune-Cookman University), and others. The organization was founded with 27 member schools.
UNCF was founded to address inequities in the educational opportunities afforded to African Americans. UNCF believes in higher education opportunities for all Americans. UNCF-member schools do not discriminate and UNCF-administered scholarships are open to all.

HBCU's
Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) find their origins in the time when African American students were systematically denied access to most other colleges and universities. Students at HBCUs have a unique opportunity to experience an educational community in which they are a part of the majority.

[Spektrewing386]

so when are we going to get back the the topic?

[AirMax95]

Whats so racist about a group of people deciding, if we arent gonna be treated fair because we are black. Than we will take care of ourselves...

You say black people want handouts all the time..BUT at the same time you talk so much **** about the things that were created because blacks werent being treated fair.

NAACP
The NAACP was formed in response to the 1908 race riot in Springfield, capital of Illinois and birthplace of President Abraham Lincoln. Appalled at the violence that was committed against blacks, a group of white liberals that included Mary White Ovington and Oswald Garrison Villard, both the descendants of abolitionists, issued a call for a meeting to discuss racial justice. Some 60 people, only 7 of whom were African American (including W. E. B. Du Bois, Ida B. Wells-Barnett, and Mary Church Terrell), signed the call, which was released on the centennial of Lincoln's birth. Echoing the focus of Du Bois's militant all-black Niagara Movement, the NAACP's stated goal was to secure for all people the rights guaranteed in the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments to the United States Constitution, which promised an end to slavery, the equal protection of the law, and universal adult male suffrage, respectively.

UNCF

UNCF was founded 64 years ago on April 25, 1944, by Dr. Frederick Patterson, president of Tuskegee Institute (now Tuskegee University), Mary McLeod Bethune, president of Bethune-Cookman College (now Bethune-Cookman University), and others. The organization was founded with 27 member schools.
UNCF was founded to address inequities in the educational opportunities afforded to African Americans. UNCF believes in higher education opportunities for all Americans. UNCF-member schools do not discriminate and UNCF-administered scholarships are open to all.

HBCU's
Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs) find their origins in the time when African American students were systematically denied access to most other colleges and universities. Students at HBCUs have a unique opportunity to experience an educational community in which they are a part of the majority.

Repped......

[jfman]

The REAL Barack Obama. The one the media NEVER shows!

http://www.theurbangrind.net/?p=2570

Maybe you should watch the news a little more. All of this stuff have been covered and covered and covered and covered by all of the news channels. CNN, FOX and the likes. There's nothing on there I havent seen in the news.

[JITB]

so when are we going to get back the the topic?

NOW!

[MistaCee]

Also!!!! Could you please stop using Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton for your basis of arguement.
There is PLENTY of other LEADERSHIP in America, they are BLACK, and they are for ALL PEOPLE.

Michael Eric Dyson
Dr. Cornel West
Jeff "Cousin Jeff" Johnson
Warren Ballentin

Google the above names, update your education. Al and Jesse did what they had to for there ERA overall. They were FORCED to stand up for the CIVIL rights of AMERICA.

Of that group, Dr. Cornel West is the only one who was around for the King, Jackson, Sharpton times that changed with the times.

Get over it.......MANY, not all, people are RACIST.......PEOPLE!!!!!! **** a color, PEOPLE ARE RACIST......

I love AMERICA and I have faith in Obama to stand by his word and help shape this UBER DIVERSE country into a POSITIVE world leader again.

Amen. Don't think Mr. Kidd and his followers are going to acknowledge that.

[PURP]

Ultimately OUR votes don't mean sh*t... the office will elect whoever they want in as President no matter what the race, religion, or gender.... If they want Obama in office then he's got it. If the want Hilary well she's got it.. the same for whoever gets it... The government gets last decision so don't worry about it. Cause who ever they want in the leaders chair will get it. Oh, and quit worrying about something you can't control.

[SPOOLIN]

Ultimately OUR votes don't mean sh*t... the office will elect whoever they want in as President no matter what the race, religion, or gender.... If they want Obama in office then he's got it. If the want Hilary well she's got it.. the same for whoever gets it... The government gets last decision so don't worry about it. Cause who ever they want in the leaders chair will get it. Oh, and quit worrying about something you can't control.

What the hell? Did you not study basic government in high school, were you not taught how the voting system works and how the Electoral College works? The voting system is Controlled by Citizens also.

[Total_Blender]

Those of you who are saying that black people should "get over slavery", I wonder if any of you have had to deal with lynchings, police brutality, segregation, jim crow laws, etc. Its true that most of that stuff is in the past but even so those wounds are not yet healed.

And many black people do not have the same opportunities as white people. There are many poorly funded inner city schools out there so its hard for the children who DO choose the right path because the schools can only do so much for them.

Remember that slaves were not allowed to read or write and most only knew simple mathemetics. Pre-slavery African culture was also an oral culture, meaning not much emphasis was placed on written agreements. So the free'd slaves did not at first posess the command of the English language that their former masters had. There were more immediate concerns than education, such as ownership of property, finding sustainable income etc. And when blacks were able to begin a culture of education the had to deal with the seperate but (not) equal system of segregation. Its only within the last 2 generations that schools were intergrated, and even now they are pretty much only integrated on paper.

[Vteckidd]

Those of you who are saying that black people should "get over slavery", I wonder if any of you have had to deal with lynchings, police brutality, segregation, jim crow laws, etc. Its true that most of that stuff is in the past but even so those wounds are not yet healed.

And many black people do not have the same opportunities as white people. There are many poorly funded inner city schools out there so its hard for the children who DO choose the right path because the schools can only do so much for them.

Remember that slaves were not allowed to read or write and most only knew simple mathemetics. Pre-slavery African culture was also an oral culture, meaning not much emphasis was placed on written agreements. So the free'd slaves did not at first posess the command of the English language that their former masters had. There were more immediate concerns than education, such as ownership of property, finding sustainable income etc. And when blacks were able to begin a culture of education the had to deal with the seperate but (not) equal system of segregation. Its only within the last 2 generations that schools were intergrated, and even now they are pretty much only integrated on paper.

Not in our lifetimes sorry pal.

Blacks are just as equal as whites, if not they have BETTER opportunities because of RACIST organizations like the NAACP, Affirmative Action, Equal Employment Opportunity, etc.

This isnt the 50 and 60s when blacks sat at the back of the bus. That time has come an gone. This isnt the Civil War.

And you guys are generalizing what IM SAYING. I said "BLACK AMERICA" notice the quotations!

Its my belief that "BLACK AMERICA" which i deem is the racist political leaders i have mentioned and people with the mentality of Airmax95 that will forever keep their race down. Their inability to think for themsevles and move on in soceity as a people will always raise questions by me.

Are there some good BLACK leaders out there, sure. Are most of them overshadowed by their counterparts, yes.

Condoleeza Rice, but shes talked down because shes not "black enough"

Colin Powell, id vote for his for presedent any day.

I could go on an on

All im saying is that our youth is uneducated, and many in thins thread have proved that.

All im saying is that 90% of blacks are voting for OBAMA and they dont even know what he stands for. They agree with his ideas, but even he has NO IDEA how to implement them.

I mean i could start a platform that says "ALL AMERICANS DESERVE a MILLION DOLLARS PAID SALARY A YEAR!". everyone will agree with me, but the fact is there is no way to implement that idea.


IMO most of BLACK POLITICAL LEADERS use race as a way to gain constituents. Obama used the trinity church to solidify his powerbase which is run by a bunch of racists.

[Big J]

I'm going to go back to race not being as much of an issue anymore. It's slowly transitioning to educated vs. uneducated issue across all races.

I look as cracker as they come, but growing up in Kentucky in the 80's in a multiracial family, I can tell you discrimination still occurs, but I can also tell you it's not as bad as it used to be.

My thoughts are I'd rather have a president that sits in office for 8 years and accomplishes nothing than one that tries to mold parts of the world into his image with the force of the military, especially because that military is made up of people I served with once upon a time.

Ask your self if you're any safer now than you were 8 years ago? Then ask yourself if it was worth the decline in the value of our currency, decline of international view of our country, lives lost, endless amounts of wasted tax dollars.

If you want to continue looking at the small picture of race and party lines go right ahead, but any person with a masters degree in international relations is who we need in office right now. Even if it's awkward because of a lack of experience, or plan, the approach and vision of anything that is not the same old thing can go a long way.

So what if he wants to talk to "axis of evil" leaders, if that's what those leaders little egos need to placate them so be it, if it's a larger issue then a face to face will give him a much clearer picture than some analyst spouting off the oh so dead on accurate threat assessments compiled by our flawless intelligence agencies.

I'd love to see a "******" and a "*****" in the Whitehouse in a capacity other than ancillary role, not only because they're more than qualified, but because it'd make so many people roll around on the floor and throw temper tantrums. I think it'd finally polarize a good portion of the country, that, and I'd love to hear Neal Bortz suffer a fatal stroke on air.

[BanginJimmy]

This whole presidential debate can be ended with a single sentence.

If John McCain, or any other republican, was involeved with the same type of and number of people that Obama is he would be long forgotten.

As far as race goes. As long as ignorant people blame others for their own shortcomings we will continue to have race issues, religious issues, wealth jealousy issues and every other issue that evolves from 1 person having more than another.

[osnap]

Ultimately OUR votes don't mean sh*t... the office will elect whoever they want in as President no matter what the race, religion, or gender.... If they want Obama in office then he's got it. If the want Hilary well she's got it.. the same for whoever gets it... The government gets last decision so don't worry about it. Cause who ever they want in the leaders chair will get it. Oh, and quit worrying about something you can't control.

this is a truly sad post.

[AirMax95]

Not in our lifetimes sorry pal.

Blacks are just as equal as whites, if not they have BETTER opportunities because of RACIST organizations like the NAACP, Affirmative Action, Equal Employment Opportunity, etc.

This isnt the 50 and 60s when blacks sat at the back of the bus. That time has come an gone. This isnt the Civil War.

And you guys are generalizing what IM SAYING. I said "BLACK AMERICA" notice the quotations!

Its my belief that "BLACK AMERICA" which i deem is the racist political leaders i have mentioned and people with the mentality of Airmax95 that will forever keep their race down. Their inability to think for themsevles and move on in soceity as a people will always raise questions by me.

Are there some good BLACK leaders out there, sure. Are most of them overshadowed by their counterparts, yes.

Condoleeza Rice, but shes talked down because shes not "black enough"

Colin Powell, id vote for his for presedent any day.

I could go on an on

All im saying is that our youth is uneducated, and many in thins thread have proved that.

All im saying is that 90% of blacks are voting for OBAMA and they dont even know what he stands for. They agree with his ideas, but even he has NO IDEA how to implement them.

I mean i could start a platform that says "ALL AMERICANS DESERVE a MILLION DOLLARS PAID SALARY A YEAR!". everyone will agree with me, but the fact is there is no way to implement that idea.


IMO most of BLACK POLITICAL LEADERS use race as a way to gain constituents. Obama used the trinity church to solidify his powerbase which is run by a bunch of racists.

Hey you......re-read my post and get back to me.

How is my mentality keeping my race down? Please explain I represent the American that wishes all people are equal for a better America. I have a good job, damn good one. I have an education, a damn good one. I mentor our youth, OUR YOUTH (all youth) on doing well in society. SO before you get on your angry "I don't like black people, because...." horse, get to know the positive. Every race has their "not the best representation" of individuals. You my friend are like many others have said, closed minded.

Also, who are you to define "Black America"?

If anything, your mentality is not going to better this country, because you refuse to accept the fact that Racism still exist. Stop sweeping it under the rug. You are not black, didn't go through anything like they did in those times, and you do not get the same treatments that many do today. You have no say so on the black experience. Everyone goes through trials and turmoil, but EVERY situation is different. Sad thing is that COLOR does still play a part.

And that statement that 90% of all blacks are voting for Obama because of his color......come on. Now we are pulling numbers out of left field! Tell me sir, what is the percentage of white voters????? Why are they voting???? Are you going to call then ignorant, stupid, and/or idiotic?

[DinanM3atl]

Mr. Kidd I find humor in your post. You post are filled with racist ramblings and it sound like you have some jealousy issues.

There is actually very low amount of equality in this country. From Blacks to whites, from rich to poor and so on and so forth. People are judging you and stereotyping you from the car you drive to the **** you wear. Racism runs rampant in all parts of our country and all sides are fighting for "their equality" which for some means one thing and for others means something different.

Why is it racist that a "black" organization wants to give a scholarship to a black student that excels in school. You do know there are scholarships that you can get? And the HOPE scholarship doesn't care what the color of your skin is.

Since I don't know your "education" level I can't comment but what is that education? Can you please enlighten me before you start ripping into people you have never met? AirMax95 is a college grad that is my logistic manager at a multi-million dollar company. Sounds like he is doing just fine?

And to further how this country is NOT currently "equal" and it is "people like him" causing the problem. On multiple occassions, myself white and Tereance black, walking through publix getting a sandwich(while both of us in business casual) have WATCHED white woman look at him and either move their purse to the other side or clutch it more closely... Explain that?

[AirMax95]

I'm going to go back to race not being as much of an issue anymore. It's slowly transitioning to educated vs. uneducated issue across all races.

I look as cracker as they come, but growing up in Kentucky in the 80's in a multiracial family, I can tell you discrimination still occurs, but I can also tell you it's not as bad as it used to be.

My thoughts are I'd rather have a president that sits in office for 8 years and accomplishes nothing than one that tries to mold parts of the world into his image with the force of the military, especially because that military is made up of people I served with once upon a time.

Ask your self if you're any safer now than you were 8 years ago? Then ask yourself if it was worth the decline in the value of our currency, decline of international view of our country, lives lost, endless amounts of wasted tax dollars.

If you want to continue looking at the small picture of race and party lines go right ahead, but any person with a masters degree in international relations is who we need in office right now. Even if it's awkward because of a lack of experience, or plan, the approach and vision of anything that is not the same old thing can go a long way.

So what if he wants to talk to "axis of evil" leaders, if that's what those leaders little egos need to placate them so be it, if it's a larger issue then a face to face will give him a much clearer picture than some analyst spouting off the oh so dead on accurate threat assessments compiled by our flawless intelligence agencies.

I'd love to see a "******" and a "*****" in the Whitehouse in a capacity other than ancillary role, not only because they're more than qualified, but because it'd make so many people roll around on the floor and throw temper tantrums. I think it'd finally polarize a good portion of the country, that, and I'd love to hear Neal Bortz suffer a fatal stroke on air.

+1

[x Resilience]

Those of you who are saying that black people should "get over slavery", I wonder if any of you have had to deal with lynchings, police brutality, segregation, jim crow laws, etc. Its true that most of that stuff is in the past but even so those wounds are not yet healed.

Im kinda with you and against you on that one. Of course black went through alot of brutality, but that was then. Black people these days do need to get over slavery, because that was their ancestors getting lynchings, police brutality, segregation, jim crow laws, etc. Not them. But of course there is still a little segregation and police brutality going on for the black people.

[x Resilience]

Mr. Kidd I find humor in your post. You post are filled with racist ramblings and it sound like you have some jealousy issues.

There is actually very low amount of equality in this country. From Blacks to whites, from rich to poor and so on and so forth. People are judging you and stereotyping you from the car you drive to the **** you wear. Racism runs rampant in all parts of our country and all sides are fighting for "their equality" which for some means one thing and for others means something different.

Why is it racist that a "black" organization wants to give a scholarship to a black student that excels in school. You do know there are scholarships that you can get? And the HOPE scholarship doesn't care what the color of your skin is.

Since I don't know your "education" level I can't comment but what is that education? Can you please enlighten me before you start ripping into people you have never met? AirMax95 is a college grad that is my logistic manager at a multi-million dollar company. Sounds like he is doing just fine?

And to further how this country is NOT currently "equal" and it is "people like him" causing the problem. On multiple occassions, myself white and Tereance black, walking through publix getting a sandwich(while both of us in business casual) have WATCHED white woman look at him and either move their purse to the other side or clutch it more closely... Explain that?

Amen, +1

[DinanM3atl]

Oh AND I am a republican but I keep my mind open and try to understand things before I comment on them...


Also that stupid video tha this post is spawned around. That is for stupid people that want to want short "clips" of full speeches and will only sway dumb people one way or the other. The same video about John McCain would work for Obama.

That video is just dumb to be perfectly honest and gives entertainment to the sheep that would believe everything they see on the internet and are easily swayed.

[BobbyFresco]

This thread contains some of the most blatantly ignorant shyt I've read on here in awhile ,from the misinterpretation of Islam to the belief that ALL BLACK PEOPLE are racist to the very laughable thought that affirmative action ONLY BENEFITS BLACK PEOPLE. (Much less the fact that employers, schools, etc,give these so called "special priviledges to Black people bec of it, in this day and age).


Mr. Kidd, please show me factual, credible evidence that
A. Affirmative Action was introduced to ONLY benefit Black PPL, and not other ethnicities and races and women as well.

B. Provide facts that would prove your theory correct that EVERY BLACK politician who has ever run and served any post in America has used race or fear mongering as you put it, to win their position.


C. Prove that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are representative of ALL BLACK PEOPLE and that the NAACP has a racist agenda.


D. Please provide facts on how historical black colleges and scholarship programs, that were founded at a time when BLACK PPL who according to YOU can't and won't do for themselves, did for themselves when others would NOT, affect WHITE STUDENTS......


and if infact these schools and organizations are still up and running as they are then your whole assertion about BLACK people wanting handouts would be false, wouldn't it? So that being said, WHY is it that you have issues with it?



Also while you were throwing out facts about Black male incarceration you neglected to account for the amount of men who are falsely imprisoned, because there was a time when DNA testing was not widely used. You didn't mention that it has been proven that Black males often times get stiffer sentences than their WHITE counterparts for the SAME CRIMES.
You forgot to mention how 9 times out of 10 Black men are relegated to depending on an overworked public defender as opposed to a high powered attorney, who at the end of the day doesn't give a shyt about his client and recommends said clients to plead out....or how young black males have the book thrown at them for petty drug charges but yet WHITE executives who defraud and bilk people out of their hard earned money get away with a slap on the wrist.....




YOU say that we live in a society where EVERYONE is afforded the same education YET even with whites in rural areas vs. suburban areas, there is a huge disparity in budgets, supplies and teaching aids, test scores, and overall performance from one economic group to another.

So wouldn't it stand to reason that on the issue of education it is more of an socioeconomic problem and not so much because of race?


You, my misguided friend, need to quit regurgitating your " facts" from stormfront.org because your true colors are showing....

[DinanM3atl]

Man he is just getting straight up owned

[wantboost]

racism goes both ways

this whole thread is sad and is going in circles, just like almost every other race related thread.