The REAL Barack Obama. The one the media NEVER shows!

[JITB]

PLEASE IGNORE MR. KIDD HE OFTEN GOES ON AND ON ABOUT THINGS THAT HE REALLY DOESNT KNOW ABOUT...
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/jailrace.htm

in that link you will have plenty of data and numbers by the department of justice..

[JITB]

oh wow
http://www.gwinnettcountysheriff.com...statsRaces.asp
http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp

[Vteckidd]

Again just like TigerJC you only post what you want to see, not the real story.

GO read those statistic you just posted.

DId i say every jail has more black inmates that white? NO. So Gwinette county Jail upholds your arguement.

Jesus, you guys make me laugh lol.

I dont know what im talking about? my statistics come from YOUR LINK LOL

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm

The prevalence of imprisonment in 2001 was higher for
-- black males (16.6%) and Hispanic males (7.7%) than for white males (2.6%)
-- black females (1.7%) and Hispanic females (0.7%) than white females (0.3%)

Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 17% of Hispanic males and 5.9% of white males.

# Lifetime chances of a person going to prison are higher for

-- men (11.3%) than for women (1.8%)
-- blacks (18.6%) and Hispanics (10%) than for whites (3.4%)

# More than 6 in 10 persons in local jails in 2002 were racial or ethnic minorities, unchanged from 1996.
# An estimated 40% were black; 19%, Hispanic, 1% American Indian; 1% Asian; and 3% of more than one race/ethnicity.

You just agreed with me, thanks!

[Vteckidd]

Oh and I like the way how you blew off the greater poverty numbers being the cause of blacks having a higher crime rate.

The young child poverty rate has grown twice as fast among whites as among blacks.

Although the incidence of poverty among whites is relatively low compared to blacks, the rate of white young children living in poverty grew twice as fast as that among blacks (38 percent versus 19 percent) between the late 1970s and the early 1990s. White children are the largest single ethnic group of young children in poverty. In 1994, there were over 2.2 million young white children living in poverty compared to 1.9 million young black children and 1.7 million young Hispanic children.

But again, they are more poor WHY? dont tell me because whites are racists.

Dont feed me that crap.

[JITB]

Again just like TigerJC you only post what you want to see, not the real story.

GO read those statistic you just posted.

DId i say every jail has more black inmates that white? NO. So Gwinette county Jail upholds your arguement.

Jesus, you guys make me laugh lol.

I dont know what im talking about? my statistics come from YOUR LINK LOL

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm

The prevalence of imprisonment in 2001 was higher for
-- black males (16.6%) and Hispanic males (7.7%) than for white males (2.6%)
-- black females (1.7%) and Hispanic females (0.7%) than white females (0.3%)

Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 17% of Hispanic males and 5.9% of white males.

# Lifetime chances of a person going to prison are higher for

-- men (11.3%) than for women (1.8%)
-- blacks (18.6%) and Hispanics (10%) than for whites (3.4%)

# More than 6 in 10 persons in local jails in 2002 were racial or ethnic minorities, unchanged from 1996.
# An estimated 40% were black; 19%, Hispanic, 1% American Indian; 1% Asian; and 3% of more than one race/ethnicity.

You just agreed with me, thanks!

OK so now i see you cant understand what your pasting... The facts, in the charts...vs. what was expected... And on the chart it was only

do you know the difference between expectancy and actual inmates?
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/jails.htm
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...ailracetab.htm

[Vteckidd]

OK so now i see you cant understand what your pasting... The facts, in the charts...vs. what was expected... And on the chart it was only

do you know the difference between expectancy and actual inmates?
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/jails.htm
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/...ailracetab.htm

i dont think you understand what you are pasting

Blacks were almost three times more likely than Hispanics and five times more likely than whites to be in jail.


Do you understand the term MINORITY?

I guess you are trying to refute the part i said about 2/3 the population being black, well so its not 66% my fault, i was off on that 1 number, but he rest of my facts are correct.

[JITB]

i dont think you understand what you are pasting

Blacks were almost three times more likely than Hispanics and five times more likely than whites to be in jail.


Do you understand the term MINORITY?

I guess you are trying to refute the part i said about 2/3 the population being black, well so its not 66% my fault, i was off on that 1 number, but he rest of my facts are correct.

that chart is incarciration rates...i posted about the population of the jails..from the years has more whites, and has incresed..over the years.. which is what you were babbling about. Population, the incarciration rate is higher for blacks, but the population of the jail is higher for whites..and is increasing quicker.

[Vteckidd]

that chart is incarciration rates...i posted about the population of the jails..from the years has more whites, and has incresed..over the years.. which is what you were babbling about. Population, the incarciration rate is higher for blacks, but the population of the jail is higher for whites..and is increasing quicker.

Ok lets try this again.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE TERM MINORTIY?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE TERM MAJORITY?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A RATIO IS?

If so, reread my previous posts. if not, then continue posting facts that are BACKING ME UP.

[JITB]

Ok lets try this again.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE TERM MINORTIY?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE TERM MAJORITY?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A RATIO IS?

If so, reread my previous posts. if not, then continue posting facts that are BACKING ME UP.

I SEE what you are saying, but thats now what you SAID! Your talking abotu one thing, im talking about something else..

[Turbo04]

Why not bring the thread back on topic, it wasn't a black vs white that was brought up in the OP. I do have a question for the Obama supporters in the thread, how can you be ok with the FACT that he has shown multiple times that he doesn't believe in the country? Look at the flag pin issue, even if you over look that one, we come upon the not saying the pledge....come on. If the man is aspiring to lead this country, how can he do so without believing in it and participating in it? Even if you don't believe in the "words" of the pledge can't you at least participate to show your respect for the ideals behind the words? I personaly don't care what religon his father was, something about Obama as a person strikes me the wrong way. He has no military service experience, affiliation with a church that no one can deny has had a very racist message being broadcast by its preacher, and a sketchy at best voting record...thats not someone I'd want to lead me and my country. Kidd does make a good point that one of the main factors why he seems to be a strong contender is the fact he is black. His messages he broadcasts aren't new or revolutionary, in reality it's a pot luck of many things ppl before him have said.

[JITB]

what was americas biggest issue in 2000?

[Annihilation]

God Bless America? A country that serves alcohol and produces porn ...... a country that is frowned upon by other countries........

God bless the good people in this country and save the ones on the verge of going to the hell fire is more like it....

[josh green]

Oh and I like the way how you blew off the greater poverty numbers being the cause of blacks having a higher crime rate.

Sounds to me like its a lack of work ethic. Slinging dope is easy and a "get rich quick" deal. No one wants to work for anything, they all want it handed to them. This is one of the reasons that I dislike young people of America.

Also, minorities tend to be targeted more than whites (I droved down tara blvd. one night around 2am and was amazed by the amount of cops that where out).

And wtf does seeing a lot of cops on road at 2am have to do with what race you are??? Its statistically proven that more crime and accidents happens after 1am. I drive around late at night and see a bunch of cops I say "hey, there are a lot of cops out" not "hey im a minority, they must be after me."
A LOT of the cops here are non-caucasian, i dont believe "they"(whichever race) profile. If you get pulled over you have done something wrong or have faulty equipment. Judging by what people drive on IA I could see them getting pulled over often.


I absolutely love this guy. It is 100% correct where I live.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rN2VqFPNS8w

[josh green]

Why not bring the thread back on topic, it wasn't a black vs white that was brought up in the OP. I do have a question for the Obama supporters in the thread, how can you be ok with the FACT that he has shown multiple times that he doesn't believe in the country? Look at the flag pin issue, even if you over look that one, we come upon the not saying the pledge....come on. If the man is aspiring to lead this country, how can he do so without believing in it and participating in it? Even if you don't believe in the "words" of the pledge can't you at least participate to show your respect for the ideals behind the words? I personaly don't care what religon his father was, something about Obama as a person strikes me the wrong way. He has no military service experience, affiliation with a church that no one can deny has had a very racist message being broadcast by its preacher, and a sketchy at best voting record...thats not someone I'd want to lead me and my country. Kidd does make a good point that one of the main factors why he seems to be a strong contender is the fact he is black. His messages he broadcasts aren't new or revolutionary, in reality it's a pot luck of many things ppl before him have said.

I couldnt agree with you more. +1

[jew_boy]

damn you all still arguing about this lol

[SPOOLIN]

holy hell.

Mr. KIDD, I F*UCKING LOVE YOU.

Just like others have said and what I have said. He can't wear a pin rather say that he'll show his patriotism some other way, ok, yeah. Then he won't say the pledge or put his hand over his heart while doing it. All that SIMPLE, BASIC, EVERYDAY duty not able to be displayed by a presidential candidate for this country was a huge tipping point for me and the other smart, non liberal, not dumb young American's like myself. How do you choose a person like that? Young people now a days have shlt handed to them on a plate...and its those same people who want inexperienced people like obama in office. I work in schools almost everyday, and whenever i'm in a classroom working and the students stand up to say the pledge, i get right up with them and say it. Is it that hard to pledge to your country, I do it rather well and I would probably never hold any office.

through all of this i've still been waiting on some real info bashing McCain, not some media trick on him caught on tape.

[Vteckidd]

Why not bring the thread back on topic, it wasn't a black vs white that was brought up in the OP. I do have a question for the Obama supporters in the thread, how can you be ok with the FACT that he has shown multiple times that he doesn't believe in the country? Look at the flag pin issue, even if you over look that one, we come upon the not saying the pledge....come on. If the man is aspiring to lead this country, how can he do so without believing in it and participating in it? Even if you don't believe in the "words" of the pledge can't you at least participate to show your respect for the ideals behind the words? I personaly don't care what religon his father was, something about Obama as a person strikes me the wrong way. He has no military service experience, affiliation with a church that no one can deny has had a very racist message being broadcast by its preacher, and a sketchy at best voting record...thats not someone I'd want to lead me and my country. Kidd does make a good point that one of the main factors why he seems to be a strong contender is the fact he is black. His messages he broadcasts aren't new or revolutionary, in reality it's a pot luck of many things ppl before him have said.

+1

[tony]

For those defending Barack and taking a stand on this whole black vs. white thing.. you're wasting your time. People don't come to threads like this with objectivity, even those who come to ask why certain things are the way they are.. they're not looking for understanding but rather a reason to shoot down your ideals.

I've spent countless hours going back and forth on subjects like this one but after a while you realize the knowledge is falling upon dead ears. So honestly, who cares? Let them believe what they believe..

I do find it funny that those who are not black know so much about the black experience.. that those who probably do not know the basics of politics or the ideals that this country was founded on have such strong opinions of the process. It is what it is, ignorance is bliss and without an open and objective mind I'm sure many of you will still have the same amount of knowledge 20 years from now that you have today.

By the way, I'd love to see an argument against Obama that is original and has not been heard on Fox News or talk radio.

[MistaCee]

For those defending Barack and taking a stand on this whole black vs. white thing.. you're wasting your time. People don't come to threads like this with objectivity, even those who come to ask why certain things are the way they are.. they're not looking for understanding but rather a reason to shoot down your ideals.

I've spent countless hours going back and forth on subjects like this one but after a while you realize the knowledge is falling upon dead ears. So honestly, who cares? Let them believe what they believe..

I do find it funny that those who are not black know so much about the black experience.. that those who probably do not know the basics of politics or the ideals that this country was founded on have such strong opinions of the process. It is what it is, ignorance is bliss and without an open and objective mind I'm sure many of you will still have the same amount of knowledge 20 years from now that you have today.

By the way, I'd love to see an argument against Obama that is original and has not been heard on Fox News or talk radio.

Exactly why I quit trying last night. Let them believe what they want.

[Vteckidd]

Id love to see a Obama supporter actually say why he would be good for this country.

Tony, with all due respect

Do you think OBamas 20 year relationship to Rev. Wright ok? Does that bother you?

What does Obama have that qualifies him to run this country?

What does Obamas POLICY of HOPE AND CHANGE mean? Tell me what he plans to do differently.

Who is OBAMA, where is his POWER from? Please if you think its from somewhere else, ENLIGHTEN ME.

We know Mccain has been a senator and in the military. He has a long track record.

HIllary well , she was the first lady.

WHO IS OBAMA.

[Vteckidd]

For those defending Barack and taking a stand on this whole black vs. white thing.. you're wasting your time. People don't come to threads like this with objectivity, even those who come to ask why certain things are the way they are.. they're not looking for understanding but rather a reason to shoot down your ideals.

I've spent countless hours going back and forth on subjects like this one but after a while you realize the knowledge is falling upon dead ears. So honestly, who cares? Let them believe what they believe..

I do find it funny that those who are not black know so much about the black experience.. that those who probably do not know the basics of politics or the ideals that this country was founded on have such strong opinions of the process. It is what it is, ignorance is bliss and without an open and objective mind I'm sure many of you will still have the same amount of knowledge 20 years from now that you have today.

By the way, I'd love to see an argument against Obama that is original and has not been heard on Fox News or talk radio.

I havent made anything up, ive quoted DOJ stats, and ive stated the obvious.

To me Obama is a poor candidate and the only reason why he is even here is because he is black, the media loves him, and my generation is too ignorant to see past his charisma.

Im republican, but i dont even like Mccain that much. SO its not like its one sided.

Truth be told i dont really like anyone running right now, but Obama should have been gone LONG AGO.

[tony]

I havent made anything up, ive quoted DOJ stats, and ive stated the obvious.

To me Obama is a poor candidate and the only reason why he is even here is because he is black, the media loves him, and my generation is too ignorant to see past his charisma.

Im republican, but i dont even like Mccain that much. SO its not like its one sided.

Truth be told i dont really like anyone running right now, but Obama should have been gone LONG AGO.

At this point all I'm asking is objectivity. Forget about issues that have nothing to do with the presidency and lets start talking Policy.. if you disagree with that then fine but 70% of those who criticize Barack do not take the initiative to know where he stands on the issues.

But talking about his church, a lapel pin.. his name??? C'mon now, if that is the criteria for presidents then why even care about the economy? Cause hell... it doesn't matter what solutions a candidate has for us if he doesn't wear a lapel pin.

Obama's relationship with his pastor.. again the 'black experience.' You wont find a black church that has not said something along the lines of what Rev. Wright has stated. Furthermore I've heard many criticize Wright but I have not heard 1 person call him a liar, read the transcripts and you'll find he's not this great monster people make him out to be.

It doesn't bother me, I am passionate about music. Tupac, Kanye West, whoever.. I listened to them constantly but that doesn't mean I took on their ideals. Same with church, if I am at church I am there for spiritual uplifting and I am passionate about that, but I am not there to gain experience on how to manage my day job.

Obama has a full website on who he is (www.barackobama.com) Take the initiative as I stated before and stop arguing. If you disagree with him, good.. but at least take the time to learn about the man and his positions. I refuse to post up information any more just to see another 'I hate Obama' thread pop up next week with the same talking points.

I have posted Bills he has sponsored in the senate, his past and I continue to get this question of what he's about. Learn and you can answer your own question, when you refuse to be enlightened then there will always be a question mark.

[man]

At this point all I'm asking is objectivity. Forget about issues that have nothing to do with the presidency and lets start talking Policy.. if you disagree with that then fine but 70% of those who criticize Barack do not take the initiative to know where he stands on the issues.

The day I truly started looking at Obama objectively is the same day he lost my support. I truly feel that he is a bandwagon candidate. A majority of the people voting for him are just following the crowd (especially the student voters).

In the end, people will vote for the candidate that best benefits them (directly or indirectly), holding no regard for what is best for the country.

[SPOOLIN]

Obama's relationship with his pastor.. again the 'black experience.' You wont find a black church that has not said something along the lines of what Rev. Wright has stated. Furthermore I've heard many criticize Wright but I have not heard 1 person call him a liar, read the transcripts and you'll find he's not this great monster people make him out to be.

I would advise any future presidential candidate to not have anything to do with such a church known as a black church that inevitably down talks white people...HELLO?? Moron alert #567 right there.

i can't even believe that today i'm seriously hoping we have a WOMAN DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION!

[yungdz]

LOL, i love this ****. I don't hate anyone and i am not affraid of muslims. Lots of people ignore signs that are right in front of them. Everything you guys are saying about what i say is how i feel about what you are actually saying. Its a stupid cycle and i also said i don't believe in that stuff, i just quoted information.

did you ask barrack if he was or was not a muslim? Of course he will say NO every way he can.

Having a Christian president is probably more preferable since that is what this country was founded on and it has seemed to work perfectly fine for the last 233 or so years.

Its like people that want to take god out of the pledge of allegiance, just because they don't believe or have nothing to do with Christianity. Thats what this land was founded on, don't like it, GTFO.

I don't watch political talk shows, no thanks.

I don't go to church and i'm not highly religious in anyway, but i do believe that when it comes to something as big as our country, DON'T fix what ISN'T broken.

I hope with all of your defensiveness that you actually go and cast your vote.


McCAIN is no SAINT in my eyes, HE'S THE ONLY LOGICAL CHOICE THAT THERE IS!


I normally never argue about anything political, but i can probably guess that hardly anybody else has either until this campaign, there will probably be record voting this time around.

McCain for President woo-hoo!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3gwqEneBKUs



SIKE!

[tony]

I would advise any future presidential candidate to not have anything to do with such a church known as a black church that inevitably down talks white people...HELLO?? Moron alert #567 right there.

i can't even believe that today i'm seriously hoping we have a WOMAN DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION!

Right, cause black churches are evil. As I said earlier its amazing that those who lack experience within the black community have such strong opinions.. I think I'll deem myself an expert on space travel from now on since perception trumps experience.

2 Presidents have dealt with opposition due to their religion and that hardly prevented them from becoming effective leaders. Eisenhower (Jehovah's Witness) and John F. Kennedy (Catholic)

If you want a candidate with substance start evaluating them with substance, not issues manufactured to invoke fear in the feeble minded.

The day I truly started looking at Obama objectively is the same day he lost my support. I truly feel that he is a bandwagon candidate. A majority of the people voting for him are just following the crowd (especially the student voters).

In the end, people will vote for the candidate that best benefits them (directly or indirectly), holding no regard for what is best for the country.

So you came to your conclusion based on the actions of others and not his positions? I have to question the bandwagon thing seeing as how he was vocal in opposing the war when it was unpopular to do so. Unlike his competitor he does not read polls and adjust to appease the masses so again, what exactly in his policy makes him a bandwagon candidate?

[Blitanicle99]

This is a amazing thread to read. It shows who is atleast somewhat educated and who just believes what society believes (AKA the Obama followers).

Mr Kidd. AWESOME. Love to read what your writing.

Spoolin. Took the words out of my mouth.


F*** OBAMA.

[x Resilience]

WAIT A F***ING MINUTE THERE BUDDY.

Theres a huge difference. In the jewish faith, does it tell the jewish community to kill anyone non jewish? NO. In any black holiday or religious term (not that blacks are a religious group) does it say to kill anyone that is not black? NO.

And what does it say in the Koran? KILL ANYONE NON MUSLIM.

I HAVE A BIGGGG PROBLEM WITH THAT **** RIGHT THERE.

Thats where the difference is buddy.

I think you got it all ****ed up. You think all muslims want to kill everyone that is non-muslim? No STFU, killing someone is a sin no matter what religion it is.

You guys see a terrorist on TV that killed someone and jump to a conclusion that are muslims are like that. STFU already, terrorist are low life brain washed mother****ers who have nothing better to do, were not all like that.

[Total_Blender]

If Obama supporters have to answer for Rev. Wright, what do you Republicans have to say about the late Jerry Fallwell (rest in hell), Pat Robertson, and Billy Graham and their relationships with various congressmen and presidents?

[josh green]

Right, cause black churches are evil. As I said earlier its amazing that those who lack experience within the black community have such strong opinions.. I think I'll deem myself an expert on space travel from now on since perception trumps experience.

I guess white people will never have experiance in the "black community" b/c we're not black (and apparently not well excepted). I guess associating with them isnt being part of the black community... You seem to be implying that we have said that all black churches are evil... I believe it was YOUR side of the argument that stated this and that they all said things of that nature. We were speaking of HIS church, not every other black church. I will strongly disagree that its HARDER for a black man in society to survive and to be successful at life. They are given every opportunity to education that anyone else is and even have organizations to help with college tuitions JUST FOR BEING BLACK, same for latinos, etc I have yet to see one for white people.... Its all about choices, some choose the wrong ones. The statement that all black churches have said things of that nature sounds to me that the black people are the reason behind white/black racism being an issue or to its magnitude still today. I have never heard a of a church (that is predominantly white) say anything negative about other races. I have never heard of a white only church. The fact that his church would not allow white people to be members is complete bull Sh*t. No church I have ever been to cared what color you were, they were just glad to see you there.

[SPOOLIN]

If Obama supporters have to answer for Rev. Wright, what do you Republicans have to say about the late Jerry Fallwell (rest in hell), Pat Robertson, and Billy Graham and their relationships with various congressmen and presidents?

did any of those guys ever make racial hate type speeches, just wondering?

[One_Bad_SHO]

I think having a "black church" or a "Miss black america" or a "black entertainment television" is discriminating. Same goes for a "white church" or a "Miss Jewish America" or an "asian entertainment television"

Gotta keep the white house white!





... but seriously.... Will the REAL barack obama please stand up, please stand up, please stand up

[Total_Blender]

did any of those guys ever make racial hate type speeches, just wondering?

Yeah on Sept 13 2001, Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson tried to blame Sept 11 on gays, feminists, atheists and the ACLU. No, Seriously...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-CAcdta_8I

And Pat Robertson was founder and president of the Christian Coalition, one of the most influential PAC's in Washington.

And you don't hear white people mention "an all white church" because they don't have to, its just an unwritten rule. Almost every country baptist church I've been to has been 100% white. My family and I (who are white) did attend a black church several times and were welcomed graciously.

And about BET... a lot of white people I know love to watch BET. I didn't know they weren't allowed to

[tony]

II will strongly disagree that its HARDER for a black man in society to survive and to be successful at life. They are given every opportunity to education that anyone else is and even have organizations to help with college tuitions JUST FOR BEING BLACK, same for latinos, etc I have yet to see one for white people.... Its all about choices, some choose the wrong ones.

What kind of education do you have?

*edit* Forget it, with that paragraph you've proven you wouldn't comprehend my response anyway.. keep that line of thinking.

[SPOOLIN]

What kind of education do you have?

*edit* Forget it, with that paragraph you've proven you wouldn't comprehend my response anyway.. keep that line of thinking.

i think thats a pretty educated comment, its pretty reasonable vs. what people have been blabbering in here.

.............as far as jerry falwell and pat robertson's accusations, i think that is actually quite funny. Those apperently arent racial comments, they were just accusing unorthodox types of people in general.

[x Resilience]

I will strongly disagree that its HARDER for a black man in society to survive and to be successful at life. They are given every opportunity to education that anyone else is and even have organizations to help with college tuitions JUST FOR BEING BLACK, same for latinos, etc I have yet to see one for white people.... Its all about choices, some choose the wrong ones.

That is total BS, I'm not black but I think its way HARDER for a black man in society to survive and be seccessful at life. Lets say there is a job opening at a big corp. and a black man and a white man both apply for the job, both have the same amount of education and presented them self really well to the employer, who do you think will get hired? The white man, and I'm not trying to be racist or anything but its the truth.

[Spektrewing386]

Update:
Its pretty much a done deal that Obama is nominee.

so get used to it.

[josh green]

That is total BS, I'm not black but I think its way HARDER for a black man in society to survive and be seccessful at life. Lets say there is a job opening at a big corp. and a black man and a white man both apply for the job, both have the same amount of education and presented them self really well to the employer, who do you think will get hired? The white man, and I'm not trying to be racist or anything but its the truth.

And this isnt an example of close mindedness? The way you worded your statement you also assumed that the one doing the hiring was a white man. What if the person that actually hired the person was, mexican, Indian, Korean, or of German descent, etc?...... Were you raised to think that you are at a disadvantage b/c of your color?

An unwritten rule, ha, maybe thats your own close mindedness making "uneducated" perceptions?

[One_Bad_SHO]

And this isnt an example of close mindedness? The way you worded your statement you also assumed that the one doing the hiring was a white man. What if the person that actually hired the person was, mexican, Indian, Korean, or of German descent, etc?...... Were you raised to think that you are at a disadvantage b/c of your color?

An unwritten rule, ha, maybe thats your own close mindedness making "uneducated" perceptions?

werd

[tony]

i think thats a pretty educated comment, its pretty reasonable vs. what people have been blabbering in here.

Its an assumption backed up with nothing of substance or merit..