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    I've heard a lot of things about both engines. I know alot about both because I'm a Toyota/Nissan fanatic. The rb26 (from what I've seen) can get more hp when built to the max but is extremly unstable at that point and will need extreme work after about two quarter-mile races. The 2jz (from what I've seen) can't get up to as much hp but when maxed out the engine stays strong and doesn't need as much work.
    Highest hp 2jz I've seen: 1600 hp (aap). Highest hp rb26 I've seen: 2000 hp (some video on the internet).
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    I'm partial to the 2j.

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    This thread is retarded. They're both fine.

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    2jz,1jz,7m,starting @500 + whp w/stock bottom end....

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    but rb26

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1439/2000
    This thread is retarded. They're both fine.
    I know they're both fine but which one do you like better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AE86 Dorifto
    I know they're both fine but which one do you like better?
    There is a blown up rb26 at my house. Looking at it makes me not want one. It made good power and fits in a 240 barely.

    2js are nice too, i'd throw one in an sc300.

    So, it's a tie.

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    the RB can take boost better due to its iron block. I love the RB for all it is, but its easier and cheaper to get ones hands on a 2jz. That stock motor can handle +/- 400hp with no internal modification.

    It just depends on what its going into. they both can take a lot of abuse before they need additional work.

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    toyota > Nissan

    2jzgte are known to have higher hp then rb26's do. But the skyline will always hook up better than a supra because of the 4wd. If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.

    also tuning a supra is easier than a skyline

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2
    toyota > Nissan

    2jzgte are known to have higher hp then rb26's do. But the skyline will always hook up better than a supra because of the 4wd. If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.

    also tuning a supra is easier than a skyline
    Uhhh that doesn't make sense. Toyota on map while a Nissan on maf, with dual z32 mafs there is no problem tuning a Nissan motor including an rb26.

    You can hit 400 with no internal mods on an RB too. They're pretty evenly matched.

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    I think any RB series motor in a 240SX is sexier than a 2JZGTE in either an SC300 or an IS300.


    Discuss.

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    why would you need to make over 1000hp anyways?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Negrodamus
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    exactly....

    but if i had to make a choice between the I6-ers i'd go with the 2J

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2
    If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.
    meh, pretty useless statement...
    blah, supra = heavy pig on road course
    skyline = heavy but not a pig

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE86 Dorifto
    I've heard a lot of things about both engines. I know alot about both because I'm a Toyota/Nissan fanatic. The rb26 (from what I've seen) can get more hp when built to the max but is extremly unstable at that point and will need extreme work after about two quarter-mile races. The 2jz (from what I've seen) can't get up to as much hp but when maxed out the engine stays strong and doesn't need as much work.
    Highest hp 2jz I've seen: 1600 hp (aap). Highest hp rb26 I've seen: 2000 hp (some video on the internet).

    kind of a dumb argument, sure.. they are both inline 6's and both are considered to be over-engineered motors. however the 2jzgte is without a doubt the stoutest of the both stock to stock. while the 2jz will never be able to match the rb26's power/liter capabilities, and the rb26 is considered to be the most successfully tuned motor in the world, the 2jzgte is superior as far as the build goes stock for stock. built wise its basically a toss up, but like said.. the rb26 is usually favored due to its ability to pump out more power per liter.

    virtually any motor is stable when built and tuned correctly, but i'd have to say after 900whp+.. most motors would break things frequently and maintenance would be far more than religious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mdeezy
    the RB can take boost better due to its iron block. I love the RB for all it is, but its easier and cheaper to get ones hands on a 2jz. That stock motor can handle +/- 400hp with no internal modification.

    It just depends on what its going into. they both can take a lot of abuse before they need additional work.
    actually son, they are both iron blocks, and the 2jz can handle far more than 400rwhp. i think one of the highest hp stock bottom end 2jz bent one rod @ 879rwhp (after car had already made over 20 passes on that setup)






    Quote Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2
    toyota > Nissan

    2jzgte are known to have higher hp then rb26's do. But the skyline will always hook up better than a supra because of the 4wd. If the supra were 4wd it would completly own the skyline in every aspect.

    also tuning a supra is easier than a skyline
    thats retarded mark, i dissown you for that retarded comment^

    actually if you want to talk about which motor has acheived the highest amount of power, the rb26 is winner.. but who cares.

    the Skyline has more than just awd advantage, its lighter, and dont forget.. not only is it all wheel drive, it has four wheel steering as well.
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    2jz gte/ one reason only.....the aftermarket support here in the U.S.A. the rb26 is a great motor...but it's a bitch to get parts for....and yes i have installed both......the 2jz is a better platform.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedm0(\)key



    thats retarded mark, i dissown you for that retarded comment^

    actually if you want to talk about which motor has acheived the highest amount of power, the rb26 is winner.. but who cares.

    the Skyline has more than just awd advantage, its lighter, and dont forget.. not only is it all wheel drive, it has four wheel steering as well.
    fuck you whore!!!!

    im partial to toyota so fuck nissan. Im just telling you what i heard from people that have tuned and worked with both platforms. There both great platforms but in stock forum the 2jzgte is superior. what the 2jz does on displacement, the RB does on revs The RB is 2.6 liter. The 2J is 3.0 liter...more displacement - more torque and horsepower

    RB26DETT engine's are only good for about 600 rwhp on a stock headgasket and block in the hands of an average person and after that you need to swap it out for a metal headgasket that the supra come stock with. their weight is comparitable, if not more than a 2jz-GTE supra. From my understanding of the 2jz engine, you can get 800 from a stock lower block and cannot be matched for top end power either


    Quote Originally Posted by 1439/2000
    Uhhh that doesn't make sense. Toyota on map while a Nissan on maf, with dual z32 mafs there is no problem tuning a Nissan motor including an rb26.

    You can hit 400 with no internal mods on an RB too. They're pretty evenly matched.
    A GTR is more expensive to tune than a Supra. The only reason GTR's are king of the Drag strips in Japan is they are a better car when it comes to traction And probably better on the track. But the supra is known in japan to be the highway king....so basiclly do you want a track car or a highway car??
    this does not reflect the capabilities of the two engines .They are almost identical yet the 2j bottom is TWICE as tough

    "The 2JZ engine is the latest in ultra high performance engineering from Japan and shows a technological upgrade over the RB26DETT that propels Nissan's Skyline GT-Rs. There are strong similarities between the pair - both are straight sixes with a DOHC 24-valve head, two turbos, intercooling and of course EFI. However, Toyota's 2JZ-GTE has aced the RB26 by including VVT-i (variable valve timing) and a sophisticated sequential turbo system which improves the overall spread of boost (and therefore torque). The swept volume of the engine has also been pushed to 3 litres"

    it has been proven that the SUPRA will always make more power than the skyline with the same mods. Exhaust, air filter, FMIC on both, same specs, and the SUPRA always makes more power.

    Do some serious work, turbo, injectors, fuel set up, more boost, forged pistons and again the SUPRA comes out on top, more reliable and a stronger engine than the Skyline.


    as far as engine platforms go 2jzgte > rb26dett
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    I'm partial to the RB's but I'm pretty biased on that opinion. RB's are capable of more than 600whp on the stock bottom end, many people are running over 700whp with the stock bottom end. Its simply a matter of how long you want it to last. Now if you take the fact that the supra has about 1/6th more displacement and factor that into even a 700whp RB and you've got your 800+whp supra. I don't think either motor is necessarily "stronger" than the other, one is simply bigger. Its never been a debate that more displacement will net more horsepower, a longer stroke will net more torque. With that in mind its no surprise the supra trumps the RB's. I don't know how much hp the stock 2JZ crank will hold up to but the RB has been tested to nearly 1800 before it came apart. This debate is as old as the Chevy/Dodge/Ford debate, its just as retarded too. Buy the car, not the motor and either way your going to get a good platform to build on. As for tuning and parts, its no harder to get skyline parts as it is to get the JDM supra parts since they're all coming from the same island. I can get skyline parts just about as easily as supra parts.
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    The record for stock bottom power on a Supra was 980whp (peter Blach) and that has been broken. I want to say its 991 now.

    but agreed. this debate has been beat to death on every forum in the world. go to supraforums and do a searcha nd you will get some pretty good info.

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    fuck all ya bitches. rb for life
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    i have a video of a skyline that made over a 1000hp and did not break for 5 years i will post it when find it. both are good cars but the rb is nice in jap
    http://www.dpccars.com/car-movies/01...kylineGT-R.htm
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    A GTR is harder to tune? That just blows my mind.


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    I haven't had any harder time tuning GTR's than any other MAF based car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool Cat Racing
    I haven't had any harder time tuning GTR's than any other MAF based car.

    lol. the GT-R is the most successfully tuned car in the world. hands down.. el oh el.
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    Big pissing contest.

    Personally I'd just stroke out a newer LS1 and twin turbo it and throw it in either car. Last I heard stock block V8s were making thousands of HP in big drag racing series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTScoob
    Big pissing contest.

    Personally I'd just stroke out a newer LS1 and twin turbo it and throw it in either car. Last I heard stock block V8s were making thousands of HP in big drag racing series.
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    2JZ in a 240sx, that would be hot, oh wait, we have one

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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckidd
    2JZ in a 240sx, that would be hot, oh wait, we have one

    2J>ANYTHING NISSAN

    rb26 in a 240= hotter

    also around here.

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    how about we race the two cars and see what happens

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    personally i think the most powerful engine is the d16.... i mean lol, i would go with the 2jz just because

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    Something to think about:

    how hard is it to get replacements parts for a RB26?
    How hard is it to get replacement parts for a 2JZGTE?

    Aftermarket support DOMINATES the 2JZ market. Tons of stuff available, RB26 is not so, very little support WHEN COMPARED to the 2JZ IMHO.

    pound for pound i would take the toyota proven 900whp stock block workhorse over the rare JDM RB ANYDAY.

    whats the fastest RB in the world, whats the fastest supra
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    fastes rb run 7.6

    fastest 2jz is in the 6s

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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckidd
    Something to think about:

    how hard is it to get replacements parts for a RB26?
    How hard is it to get replacement parts for a 2JZGTE?

    Aftermarket support DOMINATES the 2JZ market. Tons of stuff available, RB26 is not so, very little support WHEN COMPARED to the 2JZ IMHO.

    pound for pound i would take the toyota proven 900whp stock block workhorse over the rare JDM RB ANYDAY.

    whats the fastest RB in the world, whats the fastest supra

    Rb26 with big hks turbos with a blown motor in an s13 was still one of the scariest fastest 35-100 mph cars I have ever riden in. I'm sure that car back to normal running condition on race putting 700+ to the wheels would put a hurting on some Supras. Same thing with a 2j but as far as in America, you don't seen really well done RB swaps period, much less a 26.

    Nissan motor is a Nissan car. Thats ill.

    2j in a 240 is fast but I'm a fan of staying within the manufacturer.

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    THIS THREAD = WORTHLESS!!!!

    ILL add my share i guess
    i look at it away from the pure hp contest and into the overall.
    the r32 won every single group A race ever entered and when the class was changed to JGTC, for the next 2 years the r32 still dominated. r33 took the next 5/7 years and the r34 the next 2 before being retired in 02.

    The toyota teams did used the 3sgte and the 1uz v8 instead of a 2jz
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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckidd
    Something to think about:

    how hard is it to get replacements parts for a RB26?
    How hard is it to get replacement parts for a 2JZGTE?

    Aftermarket support DOMINATES the 2JZ market. Tons of stuff available, RB26 is not so, very little support WHEN COMPARED to the 2JZ IMHO.

    pound for pound i would take the toyota proven 900whp stock block workhorse over the rare JDM RB ANYDAY.

    whats the fastest RB in the world, whats the fastest supra
    I'm not going to comment on which is best because they are both fantastic. I'm on hear to say that replacement parts for RBs are a piece of cake to obtain and anyone believing differently just hasn't made any of the right connections.

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