fully built ls

[Papa_Smurf]

lol i'm just on the edge, j. still on the fence of "built" b20 or "built b20vtec". I've ridden in a b20vtec, so I know exactly how that feels. It's just kinda hard to get an idea of how a midly build b20nonvtec would feel like.

[Papa_Smurf]

^^ LOL. These kids dont' realize how EASY they have it now - LOL. People will complain about any and everything when it's basically AFFORDABLE and GIVEN to them these days - LOL. Sheesh.

LOL i'm just a broke college kid j. it takes a hot minute to build something on a poor mans budget.

[Rsporty]

I'll check Kidd's site later.
Right now, your earlier comment has me researching DIY traction bars for my EG.

I do agree. These young guys have no idea how good they have it, now.
God, the things I F'd up before we had web forums to do research, first! lol

[BABY J]

lol i'm just on the edge, j. still on the fence of "built" b20 or "built b20vtec". I've ridden in a b20vtec, so I know exactly how that feels. It's just kinda hard to get an idea of how a midly build b20nonvtec would feel like.

1) you need to be honest with yourself - how much time are you ACTUALLY racing. If the answer is "not too often" then a "fully-built" ANYTHING is prob not in the cards for you.

2) how much $$ do you wanna put into this. Pay YOURSELF 1st (savings), take care of REAL shit (home / lady / fam) THEN play with cars.

3) you need to realize that a car is the WORST place to put a lot of money - horsepower breaks stuff - PERIOD - or 1 crash and theft and you're at 0. THIS HAS TO BE OKAY and UNDERSTOOD by you. If not - wrong scene sorry to tell you.

4) If your car blew an engine RIGHT NOW ... what would you do? If you don't have the means financially to still make it to work tomorrow... tread softly. You're prob some1 who should be an "occasional participant" to the performance side of this automotive sector. Nothing wrong with that.

5) If you want a CHEAP solution w/out all of the algebra and calculous then a small wet shot on a bolt-on healthy block - you will rape 70% of the people you encounter through a) suprise (they took you for granted) or b) performance... either way, you win. Guess what... tuned 75 wet shot on a stock LS CRUSHES most 200hp N/A motors (w/ the right driver/tire/gear). You'll be down on HP by comparison, but you'll CRUSH them in TQ production. What little HP/TQ you do make, you'll make it NOW not later. That's $300 and you're in the game. NITROUS IS THE BIG EQUALIZER --- PERIOD.

--- Finally... don't do random sir. PLAN IT OUT. Execute it one step at a time. Don't blow an oil pump w/out doing a nice HG and head studs when you replace it - etc. People double their work/costs a lot due to poor planning. WRITE IT DOWN ON PAPER... you can make all the mistakes you want to on paper and it won't cost you any $$... those are FREE mistakes.

Good luck.

[JVP]

Which compression would you recommend me for my Ls motor??For all motor?

[BABY J]

What chassis? Daily driver? AC? Transmisson? It's not just the motor you have to think about. I laugh at the "mild" ALL-MOTOR guys who toss it into a DC2 sedan fullweight. Yeah, you outrun the other full weight sedans out there but a basic LS + B16 gear hatch rapes you. It has to be ALL ENCOMPASSING. If you want to toss it into a full weight car w/ AC, then do a bolt-on H22 (tuned) and keep the extra funds for beer.

But to answer your question 11.8 is nice... 12.0 is the limit that I'd run on a street car. But you can put the right motor in the wrong chassis and piss on your own shoes. Make sure that your build is ALL ENCOMPASSING... chassis, gear, function (DD or track rat)... etc. Compression is also not a replacement for a good quality well setup head. Sure - it's cheaper, but you don't see the full effects of compression if you can't the air outta the block any faster... make sense? LOL - if all of this is giving you a headache then call up Treadstone Performance - get a bolt-on turbo kit and call it good. ALL-MOTOR is a test of your wallet and also a test of your heart

[Starrfire]

Also people get caught up on dyno charts. Its doesn't matter that you are the fastest guy out there just was long as you're not the slowest lol. And just because someone has more power than you doesn't mean that they themselves can beat you in a race even if the car is faster.

[JVP]

U think 11.2 is ok on mine setup and wat type of cam u think is better on ls head ?

[JVP]

Also people get caught up on dyno charts. Its doesn't matter that you are the fastest guy out there just was long as you're not the slowest lol. And just because someone has more power than you doesn't mean that they themselves can beat you in a race even if the car is faster.

U right

[BABY J]

I'm beginning to think that no1 is listening. Instead of asking me every single mod 1 by 1 do this. BUILD THE CAR ON PAPER - with prices when possible. THEN post it up and let me make some suggestions. You're asking me to do your homework for you and I don't like the sound of that anymore b/c I have homework of my own. LOL. Do your homework, and I'll go over it to check your answers - that'll work out better for me. Thanx.

[*EFilliated*]

Very true, my car was a great example of that at import showdown. HP doesn't always mean much when ur racing heads up

Also people get caught up on dyno charts. Its doesn't matter that you are the fastest guy out there just was long as you're not the slowest lol. And just because someone has more power than you doesn't mean that they themselves can beat you in a race even if the car is faster.

[jenofcnd]

Sorry to post this mundane question here, but I need support! I have to do a 1 hour Software Best Practices Training for some programmers in my company. Audience are Freshers to couple of years experience guys. Can you guys please suggest some relevant topics I can cover? I could think of the following: 1) Importance of following coding standards, indentation 2) Proper naming of files, variables, functions, classes, tables., columns, views and all other artifacts 3) Layer your application - each layer must address a specific concern 4) Abstract common stuff into reusable utility classes Any support will be greatly appreciated (A positive response to this post & I promise I will contribute to the community by replying to at least 10 threads!)

[EmminoDaGreat]

http://www.mainstreamperformance.com/?q=node/5

check it. fully built ls. get some.

[RBS]

n i t r o u s

[JDMDA_1.7]

http://www.mainstreamperformance.com/?q=node/5

check it. fully built ls. get some.

hell yea!lol

[allmotor-teg]

1) you need to be honest with yourself - how much time are you ACTUALLY racing. If the answer is "not too often" then a "fully-built" ANYTHING is prob not in the cards for you.

2) how much $$ do you wanna put into this. Pay YOURSELF 1st (savings), take care of REAL shit (home / lady / fam) THEN play with cars.

3) you need to realize that a car is the WORST place to put a lot of money - horsepower breaks stuff - PERIOD - or 1 crash and theft and you're at 0. THIS HAS TO BE OKAY and UNDERSTOOD by you. If not - wrong scene sorry to tell you.

4) If your car blew an engine RIGHT NOW ... what would you do? If you don't have the means financially to still make it to work tomorrow... tread softly. You're prob some1 who should be an "occasional participant" to the performance side of this automotive sector. Nothing wrong with that.

5) If you want a CHEAP solution w/out all of the algebra and calculous then a small wet shot on a bolt-on healthy block - you will rape 70% of the people you encounter through a) suprise (they took you for granted) or b) performance... either way, you win. Guess what... tuned 75 wet shot on a stock LS CRUSHES most 200hp N/A motors (w/ the right driver/tire/gear). You'll be down on HP by comparison, but you'll CRUSH them in TQ production. What little HP/TQ you do make, you'll make it NOW not later. That's $300 and you're in the game. NITROUS IS THE BIG EQUALIZER --- PERIOD.

--- Finally... don't do random sir. PLAN IT OUT. Execute it one step at a time. Don't blow an oil pump w/out doing a nice HG and head studs when you replace it - etc. People double their work/costs a lot due to poor planning. WRITE IT DOWN ON PAPER... you can make all the mistakes you want to on paper and it won't cost you any $$... those are FREE mistakes.

Good luck.

dude you are the shit!!! say the things the way it is and dont take any prisioners with you. explain things to detail and help others with their stuff

[NOCLUE]

dude you are the shit!!! say the things the way it is and dont take any prisioners with you. explain things to detail and help others with their stuff

agree, just soaking all this info

[allmotor-teg]

agree, just soaking all this info

^^
yea same here, learning from somone that knows his stuff.

[BABY J]

I don't know much - but my cars and my $ goes to the guys that do:

MSS Racing / Mainstream Performance locally. The other places I support are not in the state.

[allmotor-teg]

like the stuff you put is very true and seem to have past experiences so thats what im talking about.