yea i think all motor honda's are alot more fun...
NA IS BEST!!!!!
BOOST IS BETTER!!!!
yea i think all motor honda's are alot more fun...
Ever driven anything otherwise? I've spent a good bit of time in a friend's GS-R with a built B18 and its fun and all but I'd take any 240whp WRX or 240sx over his 190whp honda.Originally Posted by Benefit
02 WRX Sport Wagon
Boost is your best bang for your buck, but you get more respect with a nicely built n/a motor.
You got to realize that hondas lack torque and awd.
If you drove the car stock and then drove it again after the mods, you have more respect for it (unless you already have).
I drove his car on the stock motor, then he spun a bearing and put a built Type R B18 in it with the type R tranny, it was a good improvement but still too slow. That car had no pickup underneath 6K but above that it pulled decently to 9 or 10K, I cant remember exactly what the redline was.
02 WRX Sport Wagon
LOL thats funny and no i would not boost my b16.
N/A all the way. I want my motor to last for a while...
actually, there were two in the 80's, the honda city made from 82-87, and the acura legend with the C20AT made in 89....
well depends on what you are doing, but for me... boost for the highway, all motor for the touge/circuit...
n/a
One of the things here that seems to shape many an opinion is the fact that so many run hondas here. As much as I love honda and their engineering prowess, the cars do NOT come boosted from the factory, with the exception of the old j-spec only legend and the new RDX. Anyway, as a result, the motors will be less reliable when boosted. yes you can build them up and strengthen them, but for the most part, reliability is an issue with boost.
Being an old volvo/ford head and having turbo'd those cars, while reliability becomes an issue as well when you go up in power, I can say it is pretty high unless you get insane. My friend's wagon has 190,000 miles on it, never removed the cyl head and puts down a cool 319whp and is a daily driver. While we don't run it that hard every day, you get the picture. You won't see too many hondas doing that on stock block or with that many miles. My old volvo easily ran in the mid 200s for years having over 170k miles on the clock. It depends on how tough the block is. Heck, my friend's turbo mustang had nearly 300,000 miles on the clock and that motor made 280whp. Depends on how well built and heavy the block is for taking boost.
Not discounting hondas or the japanese stuff in general, but don't let it shape your opinions too much. The drawback to these heavy boost taking blocks is that they can't rev. 6500rpms is the ragged edge, whereas half these smaller honda blocks are just getting going by then.
My car is factory....
Every single performance part and or modification it has was made in a factory somewhere.
Factory RB26DETTs rev to 8K stock(correct me if im wrong), and Ive seen videos of them revving over 9K modified.
Matters what the car is for. I say straight line boost, turns I say NA, faster throttle response, no lag, etc. Just raw go. Not to say with loads of money you cant make boost good in turns. It also depends on the car I say. For ME and my car I voted NA. I dont choose sides though.
The problem with doing either is when you don't do it right, it doesn't matter what car, what motor.
Turbo selection is the key, it's going to be what determines response and power range, that's what is going to make a car better at one thing or another.
Dollar per HP turbo is going to win hands down.
You have to realize if your shooting for a 300 1.8L motor you have about 28% of the displacment of a 5.7L v-8. Just based on displacmet vs. hp output, it's equivalant to a 960 hp 5.7L V-8. How many daily driven 960 hp V-8 are going to be "dependable"? Even at 960 hp the V-8 is going to see less stress because the power is distributed to 4 cylinders per revolution as opposed to 2.
Either way, turbo FTW
I've only driven boosted cars...Golf TDi, and a SAAB 9-3 Aero now...
I'm ready for something N/A...
I love that turbo sound though...
I agree about NOT boosting ITRs (as well as any other Type-R). But about boost being best for drag racing, I'll agree with DoriDori...turbochargers play a HUGE role in both SuperGT and Le Mans cars. But then again, there's the NISMO 350Zs that're in SuperGT with 4.5L all-motor V8s.i agree with JDMjoe86 for the most part....i usually look down upon boosted hondas (not all). the only turbo car that honda has sent off its assembly lines is the Acura RDX.
depends.
boosting an Integra Type R is wrong in every way
boosting a d-series is the only way to make good power without spending much money
boost is usually best for drag racing although there are plenty of road/circuit cars that are turbocharged, like porsches...
and there is mythat no one cares about
N/A ALL THE WAY
Personally I'm not gonna vote because I can't make up my mind, I'm split down the middle.
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If you dont vote, you must stay NA FOOORRREEEVVEEERRRRRR!!
Youve got a forged bottom end, why not push a couple pounds?
i dont know about you guys, but i get a raging semi when i hear the bov, waaaahhhhhhhhpssshhhh!!!
yahhhh
Or raise you compression with higher dome pistons
and make 20 more hp??Or raise you compression with higher dome pistons
Boost
No make 21hp
Well nevermind, thats worth it. Maybe if you do a head package too, get a 9000+ rpm limit, at least it sound cool.
If you can live with the lag, boost it up
9000rpm
I heard the following some time ago
Swap a B16A into the EG, well yah, I can rev up to 10k rpm, but the car is not moving.
Put a B18B in it, I am faster than a GSR...
Just what I heard...
BOOST gets you LAID.
This is like asking, whats better; Sex or no sex.
Daily - '03 Infiniti G35c Sport
Power - '03 Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
Beater - '97 GMC Jimmy
Boost...
And GTScoob was right about his comment on the first page.
boost!
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i just love the sound of vtec so im goin NA
boost faster and cheaper, but na is more refined but way more expensive. Its really what you like, thats all that matters.
Hmmm, I like both.
I'd rather have a high horse N/A than a high hp boosted car though. Broader ranger of power across the powerband.
98 Subaru Legacy GT
89 325i. 400hp hoon-mobile.
IMO, the only way all motor is better is in a big cube high displacement motor or a motorcycle. and thats just for throttle responce and sound.
N/A>>><<<BOOST
+1 for boost
FI is always great, but the sound coming from a raw 427 is pure sex
boost is the ****!
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