Which Is Better??? NA or BOOST??

[NAG2I]

i mean formula one being one of the highest classes of racing
and they are NA
not to mention they are 2.4 litre v8's that rev to 19 grand

[b16ftw]

boost... woo!

[mocha latte cupcake]

having driven both, and i'll say being a MINOR fan of honda but i can deeply appreciate the affects of Vtec and its all motor capabilities and also the effects of boost. especially the F series engines... (s2000 series at least) i'll say this since it goes both ways...


Highway runs for the use of honda freeway fun.... boost no question about it... having raced my friends S2000 *top up and top down* it needs the TQ.... its a honda... not saying its a bad thing but yeah...

for mountain/daily/gymkana etc etc NA all day! nothing sounds sexier than a Spoon exhaust or T1R set up with a TODA Vtec Killer package @ 9 grand. and its a more....... "pure" sound i think....

[ash7]

NA or boost depends on what exactly you're wanting out of a car. You won't see big numbers out of an all motor setup with a honda, but ease of maintenance and longevity are the winner for me.

I prefer NA any day.
-jonathan

[Benefit]

yea i think all motor honda's are alot more fun...

[GTScoob]

yea i think all motor honda's are alot more fun...

Ever driven anything otherwise? I've spent a good bit of time in a friend's GS-R with a built B18 and its fun and all but I'd take any 240whp WRX or 240sx over his 190whp honda.

[bigdare23]

Ever driven anything otherwise? I've spent a good bit of time in a friend's GS-R with a built B18 and its fun and all but I'd take any 240whp WRX or 240sx over his 190whp honda.

You got to realize that hondas lack torque and awd.


If you drove the car stock and then drove it again after the mods, you have more respect for it (unless you already have).

[GTScoob]

If you drove the car stock and then drove it again after the mods, you have more respect for it (unless you already have).

I drove his car on the stock motor, then he spun a bearing and put a built Type R B18 in it with the type R tranny, it was a good improvement but still too slow. That car had no pickup underneath 6K but above that it pulled decently to 9 or 10K, I cant remember exactly what the redline was.

[bigdare23]

Boost is your best bang for your buck, but you get more respect with a nicely built n/a motor.

[rndockery98]

N/A all the way. I want my motor to last for a while...

[DoriDori]

N/A all the way. I want my motor to last for a while...

Youve got a forged bottom end, why not push a couple pounds?

[JDMjoe]

Youve got a forged bottom end, why not push a couple pounds?

Or raise you compression with higher dome pistons

[DoriDori]

Or raise you compression with higher dome pistons

and make 20 more hp??

[slow_hatch]

Boost

[JDMjoe]

and make 20 more hp??

No make 21hp

[SiRed94]

well depends on what you are doing, but for me... boost for the highway, all motor for the touge/circuit...

[allvtec]

n/a

[superboost]

One of the things here that seems to shape many an opinion is the fact that so many run hondas here. As much as I love honda and their engineering prowess, the cars do NOT come boosted from the factory, with the exception of the old j-spec only legend and the new RDX. Anyway, as a result, the motors will be less reliable when boosted. yes you can build them up and strengthen them, but for the most part, reliability is an issue with boost.

Being an old volvo/ford head and having turbo'd those cars, while reliability becomes an issue as well when you go up in power, I can say it is pretty high unless you get insane. My friend's wagon has 190,000 miles on it, never removed the cyl head and puts down a cool 319whp and is a daily driver. While we don't run it that hard every day, you get the picture. You won't see too many hondas doing that on stock block or with that many miles. My old volvo easily ran in the mid 200s for years having over 170k miles on the clock. It depends on how tough the block is. Heck, my friend's turbo mustang had nearly 300,000 miles on the clock and that motor made 280whp. Depends on how well built and heavy the block is for taking boost.

Not discounting hondas or the japanese stuff in general, but don't let it shape your opinions too much. The drawback to these heavy boost taking blocks is that they can't rev. 6500rpms is the ragged edge, whereas half these smaller honda blocks are just getting going by then.

[DoriDori]

The drawback to these heavy boost taking blocks is that they can't rev. 6500rpms is the ragged edge, whereas half these smaller honda blocks are just getting going by then.

Factory RB26DETTs rev to 8K stock(correct me if im wrong), and Ive seen videos of them revving over 9K modified.

[Elbow]

Matters what the car is for. I say straight line boost, turns I say NA, faster throttle response, no lag, etc. Just raw go. Not to say with loads of money you cant make boost good in turns. It also depends on the car I say. For ME and my car I voted NA. I dont choose sides though.

[Big J]

The problem with doing either is when you don't do it right, it doesn't matter what car, what motor.

Turbo selection is the key, it's going to be what determines response and power range, that's what is going to make a car better at one thing or another.

Dollar per HP turbo is going to win hands down.

You have to realize if your shooting for a 300 1.8L motor you have about 28% of the displacment of a 5.7L v-8. Just based on displacmet vs. hp output, it's equivalant to a 960 hp 5.7L V-8. How many daily driven 960 hp V-8 are going to be "dependable"? Even at 960 hp the V-8 is going to see less stress because the power is distributed to 4 cylinders per revolution as opposed to 2.

Either way, turbo FTW

[Jecht]

It would entirely depend on how the car is going to be driven. The power curve needs to be different for different driving styles and tracks.

[VooDooXII]

I've only driven boosted cars...Golf TDi, and a SAAB 9-3 Aero now...

I'm ready for something N/A...

I love that turbo sound though...

[chituntang]

If you can live with the lag, boost it up

[chituntang]

I heard the following some time ago

Swap a B16A into the EG, well yah, I can rev up to 10k rpm, but the car is not moving.
Put a B18B in it, I am faster than a GSR...

Just what I heard...

[4doortypels]

BOOST gets you LAID.

[R32Dragon]

This is like asking, whats better; Sex or no sex.

[Nemesis]

Boost...


And GTScoob was right about his comment on the first page.

[SicK SilViA]

boost!

[lsi-crvtec]

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[ulbsry02]

i just love the sound of vtec so im goin NA

[kppk1986]

boost faster and cheaper, but na is more refined but way more expensive. Its really what you like, thats all that matters.

[Logan]

Hmmm, I like both.

I'd rather have a high horse N/A than a high hp boosted car though. Broader ranger of power across the powerband.

[RUFFIAN]

IMO, the only way all motor is better is in a big cube high displacement motor or a motorcycle. and thats just for throttle responce and sound.

[black95se]

+1 for boost

[redpanda]

FI is always great, but the sound coming from a raw 427 is pure sex

[3.5altman]

boost is the ****!

[EJ25RUN]

this is a stupid question with no proper answer.

I mean in engineer terms, neither is very efficent so both suck!

Racing throws the argument of unfair advantage towards boost.

[quickdodge®]

To me, and more cost efficient and dependability, NA would be better. Anytime you add more sheet to something, there's just that much more sheet to fucc up. Later, QD.

[Rage]

I like boost because its ez to go back to stock.