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    Default Real hp out of SOHC motor... possible?

    Is it possible to get some real hp out of a SOHC motor... and if yes what would you do...?
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    stock motor you can get 220-230 out of the VTEC engines

    Non Vtec 180-200 is more realistic

    they are fun cars if you do the turbo kit right an keep the turbo small!
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    Quote Originally Posted by w3bcod3r
    Is it possible to get some real hp out of a SOHC motor... and if yes what would you do...?
    Don't you drive an accord? Whats "real hp"?

    Boosted f22 will net you more power than a d.

    Thread on h-t about boosted f22
    http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/1657517

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    F is stronger then d. What Mike said about the motors on power in a d series is a lil high. 220 to 230 damn. That shit will blow up!



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    why do so many people underestimate the D series? look on other sites and they make 300+ all day with built bottom ends and stock heads.

    thats about all u need for a fast driveable daily

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    300+ d series dont last... i can show you...

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    Casey made 285hp for about 30 minutes total.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmminoDaGreat
    300+ d series dont last... i can show you...
    Not a completely true statement. i know of d17's that have over 300whp for atleast a year. Granted they are built, but they are still d series.

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    Dezod has a 370whp D17

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    Gaining 350+ whp in a D17 EM2 would cost upwards of $10,000 or more w/ no sponsor hookups and having a shop do all of the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle
    Casey made 285hp for about 30 minutes total.

    I knew his name would come up sooner or later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    stock motor you can get 220-230 out of the VTEC engines

    Non Vtec 180-200 is more realistic

    they are fun cars if you do the turbo kit right an keep the turbo small!
    I knew a dude that made 280whp on a stock block and head....blew it to hell when the boost upped itself..Lol. Shit was pretty funny...he'd doing it again too....stock internals, only with a d16z6 this time. Before it was a Mini Me

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    Been there done that. You wont even make 230 whp on stock internals for long time. You need to build and dont try to up boost past tune. Not worth it.



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    See thats the whole thing... i don't have time to bore the motor out or replace any critical parts for that matter... turbo or supercharger???
    Whats the max psi would i be looking at anyhow... and no, im not expecting 20 ... maybe 13-15... sounds real or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by w3bcod3r
    See thats the whole thing... i don't have time to bore the motor out or replace any critical parts for that matter... turbo or supercharger???
    Whats the max psi would i be looking at anyhow... and no, im not expecting 20 ... maybe 13-15... sounds real or what?

    You should be more concerned in mow much power you are going to make rather than how many psi your turbo is going to be pushing.

    You should do some more research before you boost your motor. Or just take it to a shop who knows what they are doing.

    This would be a great stock block street setup..

    Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyvtec (from H-T)
    im the guy cd5 jeebies was talkin about with the t 3/4 on the accord. Its a t3/04e 48/60 with stage 3 57 trim wheel.

    The 63 hot side is cool but WILL spool later. Ive got full boost by 33-3500, and it pulls like a train til redline. With all the new upgrades, im sure it will be even more brutal. Its GREAT on the street. i thought about running the 63 hot side, but decided against it, besides the stage 3 wheel in a 57 trim spools PERFECTLY in my EXPERIENCE...ask fatty.... he was grabbingfor shit to hold onto when i took him for a ride in it the first time. LOL

    Stock block at 10 psi on a conservative tune got me 260 whp/270 tq. Car has run 13.89 w/ shitty 60 foots (2.3s), subs, PS, A/C, im fat, full interior on 17s.

    Motor had 140000 on it when i boosted it. Ive BEATEN it for 6-7 months and around 20000 miles. I got a coolant pushing sit. goin, so i pulled the head, and the motor (sleeves-valves-pistons) still look really good. Tossing in some ARP head studs, new HG, got my exhaust mani ceramic coated, designed and built a new downpipe (coated and wrapped). 3 bar MAP, and a new tranny (H-23 for the shorter 2nd -5th gears). Not to mention the DELTA cam (hopefully it will be done thursday). Retuning for 13-14 psi, looking for 300+ whp on conservative tune

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    ^^
    Thats different from a d series. That guy is runnin a f series from what it sounds like. I you will not make that on a d series at 10 pounds. I run 10 on a 1.5 D and I make 207 and 195. My friend runs a f series and runs 7 pounds and makes 220 and 216. All of this is on a Stock Block.



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    Quote Originally Posted by LiLJames93
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    Thats different from a d series. That guy is runnin a f series from what it sounds like. I you will not make that on a d series at 10 pounds. I run 10 on a 1.5 D and I make 207 and 195. My friend runs a f series and runs 7 pounds and makes 220 and 216. All of this is on a Stock Block.
    I know its a f series. I think the op drives an accord.

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    gotcha!!!!



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    Tigger made 374hp out of a built d16 running 18psi. Just takes the right parts and setup.

    the ford guys put down 500+whp all the time on SOHC and the volvo guys are making 400whp+ easily on SOHC.,
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    Rota92 on h-t made 568 HP Single Cam @ 34 psi. His dyno chart






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    ^^^now thats some sick shiy right there
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    Quote Originally Posted by B18c1Turboed
    Rota92 on h-t made 568 HP Single Cam @ 34 psi. His dyno chart






    D16z6
    GT3567R .82
    34 psi
    Dynapack dyno


    Ummm WOW!!! Thats the shittt right there...I want that engine and set-up.

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    Full Race had a single cam D that put out 500+ hp with stock sleeves

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1siccEJ2
    Full Race had a single cam D that put out 500+ hp with stock sleeves
    460 on stock sleeves but built bottom end. For a cheaper setup for the sohc. Run the vitara pistons and scat rods. And good rings. and block guard. Ported and polished head. Your good for some good numbers. The rest depends on you. Turbo kit, injectors exhaust. All has life in your hp numbers. Good luck on your decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_5g_zc
    why do so many people underestimate the D series? look on other sites and they make 300+ all day with built bottom ends and stock heads.

    thats about all u need for a fast driveable daily
    actually d series vtec stock heads are good for 400whp all day long. You could tear open a d16 throw in 150 vitara pistons a set of tuner toy rods or eagle and basic oem stuff and put down 400whp with ease with less then a grand in your motor. And it would be SAFE if tuned right! There's a shitload of d16's on H-T putting down over 400whp on stock sleeves with vitara pistons. 500whp range with cp's and je's on sotck sleeves.
    I do rb20 and rb25 wiring into s13 and s14's 300.00 shipped 24hr turn around turn ket start guaranteed! PM me for more details!

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    never knew hp and d-series could be used in the same sentences

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    shit up top ^^^ is fucking sick!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by C_R_X
    never knew hp and d-series could be used in the same sentences
    I am with you...

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    right now on hondatech is a bone stock d16z6 with arp headstuds and a cometic headgasket making 400 to the wheels in an AWD ef hatch.

    http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/2104408


    220 - 230 is not pushing it on a stock d-series bottom end. whoever said that needs to keep quiet. i pushed mine to 300 before i built it. now im going for the 400 mark with pistons and rods and thats it.


    its all in the tune! sing it with me!!!

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    My friend's 02 Mustang GT SOHC made 400RWHP and 400RWTQ with a Vortec SQ-trim blower at 9psi.

    SOHC cars can make power - you just need to get the heads to flow!
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    so are we talking about sohc hondas or sohc motors period????

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    Quote Originally Posted by B18c1Turboed
    Rota92 on h-t made 568 HP Single Cam @ 34 psi. His dyno chart






    D16z6
    GT3567R .82
    34 psi
    Dynapack dyno

    and he doesnt make over 250whp till 6000+rpms. talk about LACK of a powerband. He would get WALKED on by a 250-260whp GSR with a t3 Super 60. He jumpes 250whp in 700rpm, all he is going to do is SPIN

    TO the guy saying 300whp is easy on a stock motor, you are 1 of a million that had a motor stay together past 250whp on a stock D series bottom end.

    Anyone LOCALLY that has made over 350whp BLOWS UP. They arent made to last. I only know what i have seen and tried.

    Turbo D series on a stock block are good for 220-230 with VTEC and 180-200 NON VTEC. anything past that, be prepares to build or swap the motor withing MONTHS. IT WILL BLOW UP, you can have Jeff Evans tune it, it still wont last.

    Your asking a 80whp-120whp motor to make double or triple what it came with from the factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD

    Dont believe everything on Honda-Tech or on the internet.
    you just shattered all my hopes and dreams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD

    Anyone LOCALLY that has made over 350whp BLOWS UP. They arent made to last. I only know what i have seen and tried.


    Dont believe everything on Honda-Tech or on the internet.
    Mike,if you dont read it or see the car, Dont belive it hasnt been done, there is a certain d series making over 350Hp locally.He has been making that power for over a year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by B18c1Turboed
    Mike,if you dont read it or see the car, Dont belive it hasnt been done, there is a certain d series making over 350Hp locally.He has been making that power for over a year.
    STOCK BLOCK?

    ok there is 2 out of a million
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    STOCK BLOCK?

    ok there is 2 out of a million
    Naw piston and rods, thats all!!! i think!


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    Just do it. LOL!!! Everyone learn from the experience. Give it a shot.

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    So w3bcod3r..... are you going to boost your accord or not??

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    If any of you guys wanting to do D series motors, I have two fully Built ZC motors, JG sleeved ,CP pistons and rods for sale!!!

    Motors where assembled by JG in california, with there sleeves and all!!! One ZC is a 1.6 and one is a 1.8.

    I tought i would throw it out there!!!


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