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09-09-2009, 01:03 AM
redfire6i

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Originally Posted by ACCORDPRIDE

come bak to the ss

i would love to drag u again

hopefully i wont disappoint u

lol. Just text me when you come back down here tdurr.
09-09-2009, 01:05 AM
tdurr

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Originally Posted by Black4DrEK

RICER!!!

JK :D

:(

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Originally Posted by redfire6i

lol. Just text me when you come back down here tdurr.

:goodjob:
09-09-2009, 01:08 AM
Black4DrEK

^ We are all ricers!
09-09-2009, 01:15 AM
tdurr

^^ true story
09-09-2009, 03:13 AM
HypnoToad

damn wish i still had the camaro to run u
09-09-2009, 04:06 AM
02SloWrx

100 bucks here. from a dig, only pussies race from a roll.
09-09-2009, 05:37 AM
Stol3n

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Originally Posted by 02SloWrx

100 bucks here. from a dig, only pussies race from a roll.

or people that don't want to break shit, like me.
09-09-2009, 08:29 AM
onebadgt

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Originally Posted by 02SloWrx

100 bucks here. from a dig, only pussies race from a roll.

or people who actually make enough power to have traction problems:goodjob:
09-09-2009, 08:46 AM
bowdown201

This thread is stupid..Im sure youve been lurking around here enough to know what your car should be able to run against so instead of being dumb and calling out no one in particular why not call certain individuals out?
09-09-2009, 08:49 AM
Stol3n

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Originally Posted by onebadgt

or people who actually make enough power to have traction problems:goodjob:

which is another good point. u ever sell that termi?
09-09-2009, 09:10 AM
btstone

this thread=fail
09-09-2009, 10:28 AM
whatever210

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Originally Posted by Stol3n

or people that don't want to break shit, like me.

x2 lmao :lmfao:
09-09-2009, 10:29 AM
whatever210

and tdurr it depends where your going to be this weekend. im not gunna drive far away just to race. everybody knows that. come down to south side there will be plenty of people to race.
09-09-2009, 10:31 AM
BABY J

The only prob I see w/ roll-races is that it takes the driver out of the mix a lot of times. I don't want to race your car - I want to run YOU while you are in your car so I like the dig. On the flip-side, rolls are "quick-setup" type of runs where if fuzz shows up you never stop moving... and you can say that you weren't racing and don't know the other driver. Building a car that doesn't leave from the dig on the street is not an "excuse" to only run from the roll. Why do I say this, b/c I know guys that are TRUE street-racers (IMO) and can make 500+ whp damn near dead hook and proceed to roll out on your ass. These guys are a dying breed. On the flip side, cars that can leave hard from the dig on the street usually aren't very impressive on a prepped surface. You gotta pick your poison... I know some street guys that will NOT meet you at the track just for this reason... they've figured out how to set a car up for unprepped surfaces and don't want to change it up just to prove a point at the track.

Silly thread though - but I think that was by design.
09-09-2009, 10:34 AM
whatever210

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Originally Posted by BABY J

The only prob I see w/ roll-races is that it takes the driver out of the mix a lot of times. I don't want to race your car - I want to run YOU while you are in your car so I like the dig. On the flip-side, rolls are "quick-setup" type of runs where if fuzz shows up you never stop moving... and you can say that you weren't racing and don't know the other driver. Building a car that doesn't leave from the dig on the street is not an "excuse" to only run from the roll. Why do I say this, b/c I know guys that are TRUE street-racers (IMO) and can make 500+ whp damn near dead hook and proceed to roll out on your ass. These guys are a dying breed. On the flip side, cars that can leave hard from the dig on the street usually aren't very impressive on a prepped surface. You gotta pick your poison... I know some street guys that will NOT meet you at the track just for this reason.

Silly thread though - but I think that was by design.

when i go from a dig i break shit tho....that point was proven friday so thats why i dont do dig runs.
09-09-2009, 10:36 AM
tdurr

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad

damn wish i still had the camaro to run u

what are u driving now?

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Originally Posted by 02SloWrx

100 bucks here. from a dig, only pussies race from a roll.

no cash atm. and only pussies call ppl pussies for doing roll races :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by bowdown201

This thread is stupid..Im sure youve been lurking around here enough to know what your car should be able to run against so instead of being dumb and calling out no one in particular why not call certain individuals out?

lol pm's my friend. Im just waiting a few ppl to finish their cars, and to put like 3-5 more things on mine then ill call ppl out left and right for the hell of it. :tongue1:

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Originally Posted by btstone

this thread=fail

:blah:bring ur s2k out ill run it. :blah:

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Originally Posted by whatever210

and tdurr it depends where your going to be this weekend. im not gunna drive far away just to race. everybody knows that. come down to south side there will be plenty of people to race.

yea i see that. but if i go to the southside ill want to go home first and grab money, then its like another 45 min from my house to yall... so that would be like 2 hours of driving for free runs... ill meet half way or something or we can go eat somewhere before/after to make it really worth while
09-09-2009, 10:38 AM
whatever210

wheres half way
09-09-2009, 10:38 AM
BABY J

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Originally Posted by whatever210

when i go from a dig i break shit tho....that point was proven friday so thats why i dont do dig runs.

Oh I TOTALLY understand preserving your car - but that is not the other racers problem - LOL. There are just as many guys who don't break shit w/ high TQ cars from the dig. But I understand your point. :)
09-09-2009, 10:44 AM
tdurr

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Originally Posted by whatever210

wheres half way

i dono. it takes me a solid hour to get from here to the summit exit on 75 wit no traffic. lol wuts 30 min north of yall on 75?
09-09-2009, 10:46 AM
tdurr

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Originally Posted by BABY J

The only prob I see w/ roll-races is that it takes the driver out of the mix a lot of times. I don't want to race your car - I want to run YOU while you are in your car so I like the dig. On the flip-side, rolls are "quick-setup" type of runs where if fuzz shows up you never stop moving... and you can say that you weren't racing and don't know the other driver. Building a car that doesn't leave from the dig on the street is not an "excuse" to only run from the roll. Why do I say this, b/c I know guys that are TRUE street-racers (IMO) and can make 500+ whp damn near dead hook and proceed to roll out on your ass. These guys are a dying breed. On the flip side, cars that can leave hard from the dig on the street usually aren't very impressive on a prepped surface. You gotta pick your poison... I know some street guys that will NOT meet you at the track just for this reason... they've figured out how to set a car up for unprepped surfaces and don't want to change it up just to prove a point at the track.

Silly thread though - but I think that was by design.

kinda. I just wanted to see wut the "top dogs" would do. if they were bitch made or not haha.

But really u do have some good points. I can say that i dont know how to launch my car on the current set up. WHy? cuz tires suck dick. it would be a waist of time imo to learn wit these tires. my launch point would be lik 2k if that. so yea...
09-09-2009, 11:00 AM
Catnip

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Originally Posted by tdurr

kinda. I just wanted to see wut the "top dogs" would do. if they were bitch made or not haha....

not take you serious? lol
09-09-2009, 11:08 AM
Stol3n

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Originally Posted by BABY J

The only prob I see w/ roll-races is that it takes the driver out of the mix a lot of times. I don't want to race your car - I want to run YOU while you are in your car so I like the dig. On the flip-side, rolls are "quick-setup" type of runs where if fuzz shows up you never stop moving... and you can say that you weren't racing and don't know the other driver. Building a car that doesn't leave from the dig on the street is not an "excuse" to only run from the roll. Why do I say this, b/c I know guys that are TRUE street-racers (IMO) and can make 500+ whp damn near dead hook and proceed to roll out on your ass. These guys are a dying breed. On the flip side, cars that can leave hard from the dig on the street usually aren't very impressive on a prepped surface. You gotta pick your poison... I know some street guys that will NOT meet you at the track just for this reason... they've figured out how to set a car up for unprepped surfaces and don't want to change it up just to prove a point at the track.

Silly thread though - but I think that was by design.

if u want to race the driver, go to the race track with a bracket car. then it is a drivers race. roll-racing by design is a test of how fast the car is. most people are interested in which car is faster not who can drive better JMO. to each their own but when i race someone i want to know which car is faster. :goodjob:
09-09-2009, 11:23 AM
Repiks

I'd be down after the KSU meet if you wanted. I don't need to run over 100mph anyways because of my weak ass overdrive (full throttle + shifting into OD = Boom.)
09-09-2009, 11:53 AM
btstone

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Originally Posted by Stol3n

if u want to race the driver, go to the race track with a bracket car. then it is a drivers race. roll-racing by design is a test of how fast the car is. most people are interested in which car is faster not who can drive better JMO. to each their own but when i race someone i want to know which car is faster. :goodjob:

well thats depends. take my car for example. its prob faster than most cars here (not trying to be king or anything, its just an example) but on a roll race i would lose once we get to about 130-145mph. i have my tranny gears set up for the track, so once i go into 4th im in over drive. 5th is even slower because its my second over drive. lets no even bring up 6th. but roll races not for me
09-09-2009, 12:18 PM
Stol3n

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Originally Posted by btstone

well thats depends. take my car for example. its prob faster than most cars here (not trying to be king or anything, its just an example) but on a roll race i would lose once we get to about 130-145mph. i have my tranny gears set up for the track, so once i go into 4th im in over drive. 5th is even slower because its my second over drive. lets no even bring up 6th. but roll races not for me

a car set up for the track should race at the track but for your typical run of the mill street car a roll race will tell which car is faster. this is of course only stands true if neither car miss a gear, jumps, and drivers are similar in experience. usually the race is over by 145 so my point still stands. :boobies:
09-09-2009, 12:41 PM
tdurr

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Originally Posted by Catnip

not take you serious? lol

and i take none of them serious.

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Originally Posted by Stol3n

if u want to race the driver, go to the race track with a bracket car. then it is a drivers race. roll-racing by design is a test of how fast the car is. most people are interested in which car is faster not who can drive better JMO. to each their own but when i race someone i want to know which car is faster. :goodjob:

:goodjob: reps when i can

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Originally Posted by Repiks

I'd be down after the KSU meet if you wanted. I don't need to run over 100mph anyways because of my weak ass overdrive (full throttle + shifting into OD = Boom.)

alright, ill try and remember to talk to u there about it.
09-09-2009, 12:48 PM
David88vert

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Originally Posted by btstone

well thats depends. take my car for example. its prob faster than most cars here (not trying to be king or anything, its just an example) but on a roll race i would lose once we get to about 130-145mph. i have my tranny gears set up for the track, so once i go into 4th im in over drive. 5th is even slower because its my second over drive. lets no even bring up 6th. but roll races not for me

What kind of screwed up tranny ratios do you have? :thinking:

4th should be close to 1:1 on any 6 speed manual, on a stock S2000 it is 1.1:1. 5th and 6th are overdrives, but 5th is still close to a 1:1.

Stock S2000 Gear Ratios:
1st: 3.133
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.161
5th: 0.943
6th: 0.763
Reverse: 2.800
Final Drive: 4.100
Secondary Gear Reduction: 1.208

PPG's ratios usually are:
Ratios: 3.16 / 2.09 / 1.53 / 1.22 / 1.04 / 0.88
As you can see, only 6th would be overdrive.

Are you using their drop gears? They don't list the ratios for them, but they should be similar. Why would they make 3 OD gears, except for top end runs? You might want to double-check this. If they really put 4th as an OD, then they ripped you off with a poor tranny setup in regards to performance.
09-09-2009, 12:51 PM
tdurr

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Originally Posted by David88vert

What kind of screwed up tranny ratios do you have? :thinking:

4th should be close to 1:1 on any 6 speed manual, on a stock S2000 it is 1.1:1. 5th and 6th are overdrives, but 5th is still close to a 1:1.

Stock S2000 Gear Ratios:
1st: 3.133
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.161
5th: 0.943
6th: 0.763
Reverse: 2.800
Final Drive: 4.100
Secondary Gear Reduction: 1.208

PPG's ratios usually are:
Ratios: 3.16 / 2.09 / 1.53 / 1.22 / 1.04 / 0.88
As you can see, only 6th would be overdrive.

Are you using their drop gears? They don't list the ratios for them, but they should be similar. Why would they make 3 OD gears, except for top end runs? You might want to double-check this. If they really put 4th as an OD, then they ripped you off with a poor tranny setup in regards to performance.

lulz.
09-09-2009, 12:56 PM
btstone

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Originally Posted by David88vert

What kind of screwed up tranny ratios do you have? :thinking:

4th should be close to 1:1 on any 6 speed manual, on a stock S2000 it is 1.1:1. 5th and 6th are overdrives, but 5th is still close to a 1:1.

Stock S2000 Gear Ratios:
1st: 3.133
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.161
5th: 0.943
6th: 0.763
Reverse: 2.800
Final Drive: 4.100
Secondary Gear Reduction: 1.208

PPG's ratios usually are:
Ratios: 3.16 / 2.09 / 1.53 / 1.22 / 1.04 / 0.88
As you can see, only 6th would be overdrive.

Are you using their drop gears? They don't list the ratios for them, but they should be similar. Why would they make 3 OD gears, except for top end runs? You might want to double-check this. If they really put 4th as an OD, then they ripped you off with a poor tranny setup in regards to performance.

thats is all correct, but i bought there custom reduction gear because that is what breaks alot on s2000s. the reduction gear is made larger so it throws the the gear ratios off. it makes 3rd you rclosest 1:1 gear. its made specificly for track use
09-09-2009, 01:00 PM
David88vert

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Originally Posted by btstone

thats is all correct, but i bought there custom reduction gear because that is what breaks alot on s2000s. the reduction gear is made larger so it throws the the gear ratios off. it makes 3rd you rclosest 1:1 gear. its made specificly for track use

Ok, so basically you are using only 1-3 at the track, correct? Then with 3 ODs, you either have a very small ratio change between each, or you have a really small final. Let me guess, you also have something bigger than a 4:10 final, right? In the 5's maybe?
09-09-2009, 01:05 PM
btstone

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Originally Posted by David88vert

Ok, so basically you are using only 1-3 at the track, correct? Then with 3 ODs, you either have a very small ratio change between each, or you have a really small final. Let me guess, you also have something bigger than a 4:10 final, right? In the 5's maybe?

no i still have 4.10. i go into 4th at track. 4th tops out around 160mph for me.. i make enough tq and hp where 4th is not a big issues for me, but 5th and 6th slow me down considerably.
09-09-2009, 01:11 PM
David88vert

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Originally Posted by btstone

no i still have 4.10. i go into 4th at track. 4th tops out around 160mph for me.. i make enough tq and hp where 4th is not a big issues for me, but 5th and 6th slow me down considerably.

That's definitely an interesting tranny. I don't think that I would have thought to done it that way.

When my 5 speed breaks, it's going auto. Much less to worry about for me.

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Do you have a way to load the turbo when you are at the line? I.E. - AEM, line lock, etc?
09-09-2009, 01:17 PM
btstone

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Originally Posted by David88vert

That's definitely an interesting tranny. I don't think that I would have thought to done it that way.

When my 5 speed breaks, it's going auto. Much less to worry about for me.

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Do you have a way to load the turbo when you are at the line? I.E. - AEM, line lock, etc?

my shit is going auto too. i hate this tranny
09-09-2009, 01:24 PM
David88vert

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Originally Posted by btstone

my shit is going auto too. i hate this tranny

For you, I would only consider the TH400 - fully built. You need something seriously strong, and it has the reputation for being reliable. Only downside to it is that it has no OD.

For me, I will go with a built AOD later. I need the OD, as mine is just a street car.
09-09-2009, 01:34 PM
btstone

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Originally Posted by David88vert

For you, I would only consider the TH400 - fully built. You need something seriously strong, and it has the reputation for being reliable. Only downside to it is that it has no OD.

For me, I will go with a built AOD later. I need the OD, as mine is just a street car.

i am going built 350. supposed to handle 1300HP. then i can add a OD gear to the end of the tranny for street use...hehe
09-09-2009, 02:04 PM
David88vert

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Originally Posted by btstone

i am going built 350. supposed to handle 1300HP. then i can add a OD gear to the end of the tranny for street use...hehe

I've got a pretty built TH350 in my Impala. Put it in after the Powerglide wore out. It won't handle more than 600hp though. You will have to sink some money in to go to 1300hp capable.

I still have my PG here if I want to go all out race.....
09-09-2009, 02:48 PM
Lankhoss

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Originally Posted by BABY J

Oh I TOTALLY understand preserving your car - but that is not the other racers problem - LOL. There are just as many guys who don't break shit w/ high TQ cars from the dig. But I understand your point. :)

If they've put the money into buying components that are much stronger from a dig they won't. There's hardly a car out there that has a tranny, clutch, and rearend than can handle many hard launches. Also, most cars are IRS nowadays and those are awful for trying to launch from a dig.
09-09-2009, 02:52 PM
HypnoToad

im in a slow 240sx now,but im working on getting back in a fbody soon.
09-09-2009, 02:58 PM
BABY J

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Originally Posted by Stol3n

if u want to race the driver, go to the race track with a bracket car. then it is a drivers race. roll-racing by design is a test of how fast the car is. most people are interested in which car is faster not who can drive better JMO. to each their own but when i race someone i want to know which car is faster. :goodjob:

Diff strokes for diff folks. Cars don't talk shit on the internet - drivers do. So for me, I like to make the DRIVER lose - not the car. But I understand that not every1 thinks like me. Also, since the OP was talking about street runs, the closest thing on the street to challenging the driver (like bracket-racing) is the dig.
09-09-2009, 02:59 PM
collins

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Originally Posted by tdurr

*sigh* i cant tandem in a fwd :(

you'd be suprised ;) lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdurr

sat night, lets run. 40 kick to 100, Heads up. just for fun. Idk where we run just make it close.
:lmfao:

sweet! so i could just stay in 3rd gear, not have to shift, and still wax that ass for the 4-5 seconds i'm in the throttle :lmfao:

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