^^ true story
damn wish i still had the camaro to run u
100 bucks here. from a dig, only pussies race from a roll.
this thread=fail
The only prob I see w/ roll-races is that it takes the driver out of the mix a lot of times. I don't want to race your car - I want to run YOU while you are in your car so I like the dig. On the flip-side, rolls are "quick-setup" type of runs where if fuzz shows up you never stop moving... and you can say that you weren't racing and don't know the other driver. Building a car that doesn't leave from the dig on the street is not an "excuse" to only run from the roll. Why do I say this, b/c I know guys that are TRUE street-racers (IMO) and can make 500+ whp damn near dead hook and proceed to roll out on your ass. These guys are a dying breed. On the flip side, cars that can leave hard from the dig on the street usually aren't very impressive on a prepped surface. You gotta pick your poison... I know some street guys that will NOT meet you at the track just for this reason... they've figured out how to set a car up for unprepped surfaces and don't want to change it up just to prove a point at the track.
Silly thread though - but I think that was by design.
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what are u driving now?
no cash atm. and only pussies call ppl pussies for doing roll races
lol pm's my friend. Im just waiting a few ppl to finish their cars, and to put like 3-5 more things on mine then ill call ppl out left and right for the hell of it.
bring ur s2k out ill run it.
yea i see that. but if i go to the southside ill want to go home first and grab money, then its like another 45 min from my house to yall... so that would be like 2 hours of driving for free runs... ill meet half way or something or we can go eat somewhere before/after to make it really worth while
kinda. I just wanted to see wut the "top dogs" would do. if they were bitch made or not haha.
But really u do have some good points. I can say that i dont know how to launch my car on the current set up. WHy? cuz tires suck dick. it would be a waist of time imo to learn wit these tires. my launch point would be lik 2k if that. so yea...
if u want to race the driver, go to the race track with a bracket car. then it is a drivers race. roll-racing by design is a test of how fast the car is. most people are interested in which car is faster not who can drive better JMO. to each their own but when i race someone i want to know which car is faster.![]()
well thats depends. take my car for example. its prob faster than most cars here (not trying to be king or anything, its just an example) but on a roll race i would lose once we get to about 130-145mph. i have my tranny gears set up for the track, so once i go into 4th im in over drive. 5th is even slower because its my second over drive. lets no even bring up 6th. but roll races not for me
a car set up for the track should race at the track but for your typical run of the mill street car a roll race will tell which car is faster. this is of course only stands true if neither car miss a gear, jumps, and drivers are similar in experience. usually the race is over by 145 so my point still stands. :boobies:
What kind of screwed up tranny ratios do you have?
4th should be close to 1:1 on any 6 speed manual, on a stock S2000 it is 1.1:1. 5th and 6th are overdrives, but 5th is still close to a 1:1.
Stock S2000 Gear Ratios:
1st: 3.133
2nd: 2.045
3rd: 1.481
4th: 1.161
5th: 0.943
6th: 0.763
Reverse: 2.800
Final Drive: 4.100
Secondary Gear Reduction: 1.208
PPG's ratios usually are:
Ratios: 3.16 / 2.09 / 1.53 / 1.22 / 1.04 / 0.88
As you can see, only 6th would be overdrive.
Are you using their drop gears? They don't list the ratios for them, but they should be similar. Why would they make 3 OD gears, except for top end runs? You might want to double-check this. If they really put 4th as an OD, then they ripped you off with a poor tranny setup in regards to performance.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
That's definitely an interesting tranny. I don't think that I would have thought to done it that way.
When my 5 speed breaks, it's going auto. Much less to worry about for me.
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Do you have a way to load the turbo when you are at the line? I.E. - AEM, line lock, etc?
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"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
If they've put the money into buying components that are much stronger from a dig they won't. There's hardly a car out there that has a tranny, clutch, and rearend than can handle many hard launches. Also, most cars are IRS nowadays and those are awful for trying to launch from a dig.
2006 Corvette Z06
2" Stainless Works LT Headers
Random Technologies 3" X-pipe, with high flow polished cats
Callaway "Honker" cold air intake
Ported throttle body and intake
Custom dyno tune by MTI Racing Atlanta
496rwhp/478tq
im in a slow 240sx now,but im working on getting back in a fbody soon.
Diff strokes for diff folks. Cars don't talk shit on the internet - drivers do. So for me, I like to make the DRIVER lose - not the car. But I understand that not every1 thinks like me. Also, since the OP was talking about street runs, the closest thing on the street to challenging the driver (like bracket-racing) is the dig.
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