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    Mankind as a whole fears death, and religion presents a way of negating death. According to the bible if you follow the 10 commandments your final reward is eternal life in heaven free of suffering and pain, the alternative to not following the commandment is still eternal life only this time you are doomed to suffer.



    So in other words,



    If your good and follow the “rules” you will live happily ever after, break the “rules” and you shall be severely punished.



    It all seems to be a way of controlling people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwick
    Mankind as a whole fears death, and religion presents a way of negating death. According to the bible if you follow the 10 commandments your final reward is eternal life in heaven free of suffering and pain, the alternative to not following the commandment is still eternal life only this time you are doomed to suffer.



    So in other words,



    If your good and follow the “rules” you will live happily ever after, break the “rules” and you shall be severely punished.



    It all seems to be a way of controlling people.
    No offense man, but thats not at all what the Bible says. It states that if you believe in Jesus and believe he is God's Son and our Messiah. Then You will have eternal life.

    The Ten Commandments are just a list of rules to follow to keep your life in line. Most governments are based off these rules. Plus its not that hard to follow them. Dont murder, dont steal, dont commit adultry, and dont have any false gods before the one true God. I dont think this is a way of controling people. These are really just good basic rules to live by in any society. But it also states that our God is a forgiving God. Not like a magical Genie, but if you truely repent of your sins, then God will forgive you no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99hatch
    No offense man, but thats not at all what the Bible says. It states that if you believe in Jesus and believe he is God's Son and our Messiah. Then You will have eternal life.

    The Ten Commandments are just a list of rules to follow to keep your life in line. Most governments are based off these rules. Plus its not that hard to follow them. Dont murder, dont steal, dont commit adultry, and dont have any false gods before the one true God. I dont think this is a way of controling people. These are really just good basic rules to live by in any society. But it also states that our God is a forgiving God. Not like a magical Genie, but if you truely repent of your sins, then God will forgive you no matter what.
    1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
    2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure that they want to hear them.
    3. When in another's lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
    4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
    5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
    6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the person and he cries out to be relieved.
    7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have used it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
    8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
    9. Do not harm little children.
    10. Do not kill non-human animals unless attacked or for your food.
    11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

    Seems to make sense to me. A hell of a lot more sense than the 10 commandments.
    Except for the bit about magic, of which I have no opinion.

    If you didn't know these are the 11 Satanic commandments. Also, I don't think 'destroy him' necessarily means 'rip his fucking heart out of his chest if he doesn't stop asking you for some change' but more of a 'I'll fucking punch you in your face if you continue to bother me.'

    So before you go and attack that part - don't, I've already cleared it out for you.

    But when it comes down to it Good and Evil are both man made institutions. There cannot be one without the other, but in actuality - neither exist independently. I'm neither a Satanist nor a religious nutcase. But I do enjoy reading parts of both. Building my knowledge on them helps me out understanding them to a point where I'll have enough data to be able to argue 'em in a discussion if I need to.

    If you must know, I have broken all twenty-one commandments.

    I am The Mecha-Super Evil.

    Also, does anyone else find it ironic that the "Satanists" - who are self proclaimed anarchistic hedonists require even more laws telling them what to do than the Christians?

    The Maniac's Two Commandments.
    I. Fuck all commandments
    II. Fuck you

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99hatch
    No offense man, but thats not at all what the Bible says. It states that if you believe in Jesus and believe he is God's Son and our Messiah. Then You will have eternal life.

    The Ten Commandments are just a list of rules to follow to keep your life in line. Most governments are based off these rules. Plus its not that hard to follow them. Dont murder, dont steal, dont commit adultry, and dont have any false gods before the one true God. I dont think this is a way of controling people. These are really just good basic rules to live by in any society. But it also states that our God is a forgiving God. Not like a magical Genie, but if you truely repent of your sins, then God will forgive you no matter what.
    And this is true for the most part.

    But the problem most people have with this is, If I am Muslim, but I live a wholesome life, why will I be condemned to Hell? What merciful God would send anyone who lived a wholesome life without major sin to hell because of one technicality
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99hatch
    No offense man, but thats not at all what the Bible says. It states that if you believe in Jesus and believe he is God's Son and our Messiah. Then You will have eternal life.

    The Ten Commandments are just a list of rules to follow to keep your life in line. Most governments are based off these rules. Plus its not that hard to follow them. Dont murder, dont steal, dont commit adultry, and dont have any false gods before the one true God. I dont think this is a way of controling people. These are really just good basic rules to live by in any society. But it also states that our God is a forgiving God. Not like a magical Genie, but if you truely repent of your sins, then God will forgive you no matter what.
    The 10 commandments are:

    1) I am the Lord thy God.



    Ok, so he is boastful….not a good start.



    2) Thou shalt have no other gods besides me



    So he is also jealous……that’s kind of a pity/childish HUMAN emotion for a “GOD” don’t you think



    3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.



    God Damn it this one always gets me……I guess I’m going to hell now, see you guys later.



    4) Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy.



    Ok so God says its ok be lazy don’t do anything……I bet he voted for Obama.



    5) Honor thy Father and Mother.



    Have you met my parents…..ok then.



    6) Thou shalt not murder.



    I haven’t yet but I thought about it and according to the Bible a sin in the mind is as bad as a sin in the flesh.



    7) Thou shalt not commit adultery.



    Come on, you gotta play the field some.*same rules as #6.



    8) Thou shalt not steal.



    I took a piece of gum from my brother when I was 7, and im not sorry for doing it.



    9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.



    Ok so don’t lie…..who here has ever lied? Who taught you how to lie?



    10) Thou shalt not covet.



    So basically your not suppose to want anything……that sucks.
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    If you follow all 10 of these "rules" like a good little Christian then all I have to do is say "God says" and you will do it.

    Give me 40% of your money.......also known as offering



    Go kill "this" group of people.......crusade/Holy War

    (Even though your NOT suppose to kill anyone)



    Ok now let do a little experiment. Lets say we could go back in time to before you "knew" who God was. This time around instead of going to church ever Sunday to learn about God you go to a farm and learn about "Jack and the bean stalk" Instead of telling me "Yes there is a God" would you be saying "Yes there is a guy named Jack with a magic bean stalk, and at the top of the magic bean stalk is a giant".



    LOL of course you wouldn’t because that’s just ridiculous. Magic bean stalks, some guy aka “giant” that lives in the sky we cant see, that’s crazy talk.









    Lets say I kill some one, and when asked why did I do that I say “A voice told me to” ….I’m crazy right? Now lets say I send an entire army to kill everyone in a small town and when asked why I did that I say “God himself told me to”…….that’s ok, there is nothing wrong with a voice telling me to go and kill some one as long as that voices name is God.


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    Quote Originally Posted by qwick
    If you follow all 10 of these "rules" like a good little Christian then all I have to do is say "God says" and you will do it.

    Give me 40% of your money.......also known as offering



    Go kill "this" group of people.......crusade/Holy War

    (Even though your NOT suppose to kill anyone)



    Ok now let do a little experiment. Lets say we could go back in time to before you "knew" who God was. This time around instead of going to church ever Sunday to learn about God you go to a farm and learn about "Jack and the bean stalk" Instead of telling me "Yes there is a God" would you be saying "Yes there is a guy named Jack with a magic bean stalk, and at the top of the magic bean stalk is a giant".



    LOL of course you wouldn’t because that’s just ridiculous. Magic bean stalks, some guy aka “giant” that lives in the sky we cant see, that’s crazy talk.









    Lets say I kill some one, and when asked why did I do that I say “A voice told me to” ….I’m crazy right? Now lets say I send an entire army to kill everyone in a small town and when asked why I did that I say “God himself told me to”…….that’s ok, there is nothing wrong with a voice telling me to go and kill some one as long as that voices name is God.

    You need to stop talking.

    Everytime you post you sound more rediculous.

    Tithing is something you do to the church. to pay bills, because even though its a non profit, water and electricity still get used. Tehy also use that money to help the community, feed the homeless and keep the building and property up.

    You cannot give moeny to God. What does he need is for? He lives where the streets are paved with one of our most precious metals. You tithe because you are giving back to him by sacraficing something that is important to you to show faith.


    There is a difference between murder and killing. Death is part of life and there have been numerous times that God himself has demanded his people kill. The Crusades though, were none of this. These were Christian men who decided to take back the Holy Land, oh, and rescue their King. Even though they proclaimed it was for God, there is nothing (accepted as God's word) that states he asked for the war.


    People know what they are taught. and even the bible says, you will not be punished for what you don't know. If you were never introduced to him, then you can't be punished for making the wrong choice.

    Jack and the Beanstalk? seriously


    Let's say you do kill someone. And you tell them that a voice made you do it. You will be put away. God very seldomly came down and said, "Kill this one person." Usually it was to a leader about a tribe of people. To a leader... If a group of people killed another group because the had faith that God told you so, then (not only would they be stupid for listening to someone as uneducated as you are) but you would be the leader, and you would end up taking the responsibilty if God never charged you with that task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stillaneon

    Tithing is something you do to the church. to pay bills, because even though its a non profit, water and electricity still get used. Tehy also use that money to help the community, feed the homeless and keep the building and property up.

    You cannot give moeny to God. What does he need is for? He lives where the streets are paved with one of our most precious metals. You tithe because you are giving back to him by sacraficing something that is important to you to show faith.
    Right all the money given to some guy on the TV go to what you listed above? come on man realy you think that? Search yahoo for the homes of some of the televangelist, there freaking huge and extravagnt, If they were so worried about being close to god the moey they spent on their home woud have been sent back in to the communitys. Now yes some churches do give back to communitys and yes i know they have bills to pay but think about this, lets say we go to this church that has 15 (average american) members. How much money a week are you bringing in if every one tiths 40% or even only 20%?

    There is a difference between murder and killing. Death is part of life and there have been numerous times that God himself has demanded his people kill. The Crusades though, were none of this. These were Christian men who decided to take back the Holy Land, oh, and rescue their King. Even though they proclaimed it was for God, there is nothing (accepted as God's word) that states he asked for the war.

    I never said God had to say go kill, I just ment that if "King whatever" says kill a person or group of people and some one ask why it is accepted and more palatable if his respons is "god said so"

    People know what they are taught. and even the bible says, you will not be punished for what you don't know. If you were never introduced to him, then you can't be punished for making the wrong choice.

    The point here is that chistians belive in a very far fetched story, replace this story with another one or a fairy tale and all of a sudden its laughble, or even more so.

    Jack and the Beanstalk? seriously

    Ok the old testement in a nut shell: God say to Joseph "im gonna knock up you wife, dont worry tho she will still be a virgin. She will give birth to a baby boy named Jesus that is realy me."

    *Skip ahead a little*

    Jesus who is also god goes around and does "magic" and "heals" people and also teaches that his "father" (who by the way didnt have sex with his mom and is also him)sent him here to teach ever one about God(his self).

    *skip ahead some more*

    Some guy gets mad at Jesus(God) and decides to kill him. And in stead of saving him self with his "magic" he lets it happen to frogive the sins of every one past, present and future. Now Jeasus and God who are the one and the same but NOT are chillen in this very exclusive club called Heaven, and the only way in is to follow there rules here on earth.
    Its sounds like a made up story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwick
    Originally Posted by stillaneon

    Tithing is something you do to the church. to pay bills, because even though its a non profit, water and electricity still get used. Tehy also use that money to help the community, feed the homeless and keep the building and property up.

    You cannot give moeny to God. What does he need is for? He lives where the streets are paved with one of our most precious metals. You tithe because you are giving back to him by sacraficing something that is important to you to show faith.
    Right all the money given to some guy on the TV go to what you listed above? come on man realy you think that? Search yahoo for the homes of some of the televangelist, there freaking huge and extravagnt, If they were so worried about being close to god the moey they spent on their home woud have been sent back in to the communitys. Now yes some churches do give back to communitys and yes i know they have bills to pay but think about this, lets say we go to this church that has 15 (average american) members. How much money a week are you bringing in if every one tiths 40% or even only 20%?

    There is a difference between murder and killing. Death is part of life and there have been numerous times that God himself has demanded his people kill. The Crusades though, were none of this. These were Christian men who decided to take back the Holy Land, oh, and rescue their King. Even though they proclaimed it was for God, there is nothing (accepted as God's word) that states he asked for the war.

    I never said God had to say go kill, I just ment that if "King whatever" says kill a person or group of people and some one ask why it is accepted and more palatable if his respons is "god said so"

    People know what they are taught. and even the bible says, you will not be punished for what you don't know. If you were never introduced to him, then you can't be punished for making the wrong choice.

    The point here is that chistians belive in a very far fetched story, replace this story with another one or a fairy tale and all of a sudden its laughble, or even more so.

    Jack and the Beanstalk? seriously

    Ok the old testement in a nut shell: God say to Joseph "im gonna knock up you wife, dont worry tho she will still be a virgin. She will give birth to a baby boy named Jesus that is realy me."

    *Skip ahead a little*

    Jesus who is also god goes around and does "magic" and "heals" people and also teaches that his "father" (who by the way didnt have sex with his mom and is also him)sent him here to teach ever one about God(his self).

    *skip ahead some more*

    Some guy gets mad at Jesus(God) and decides to kill him. And in stead of saving him self with his "magic" he lets it happen to frogive the sins of every one past, present and future. Now Jeasus and God who are the one and the same but NOT are chillen in this very exclusive club called Heaven, and the only way in is to follow there rules here on earth.
    This is so ridiculously off base its not even funny. If you dont want to believe in God thats cool man. Everyone has to a choice to make their own decisions. But if your going to try to make an intelligent argument against Christianity you need to do a little research on the subject. When you say, this sounds like a made up story, its because it is. You just made it up.

    To start Tything is 10% of your income not 40. Uncle Sam takes about 28% and up of your income. Maybe you should see what he is doing with all the money. Like stillaneon said, Tything is something you do to 1. help the church with bills and helping the community. 2. to show a leap of faith by God. It also states that those who give to God will be rewarded heavily. Its a leap of faith. Lets say you give up 100 bucks a month. You love your money and dont want to give it up.....Believe me, God makes it up to you. Plus it helps countless people.

    Yes there are TV evangelists out there that are doing nothing more than ripping people off. There are also ones who are truely trying to help people. You cannot blame God for those idiots that take advantage of the "God" name just to rip you off. That is there choice, and those who are real Chirstians can tell the difference based on what they preach, and if God is truely speaking through them.

    You say Christianty is a far fetched story. Look at the Big Bang Theory. So you mean to tell me, out of no where there was this very small mass created. Then this mass that popped up out of nowhere exploded. The just by chance these single cell organizims were created from dust, then turned into thousands of species of Animals and plant life. Then some turned into monkeys that eventually got smart and became human. Let me ask you, why didnt lions evolve into something smarter and able to build things? Why just monkeys? Also pretty interesting that everything on this earth lives off Water and that happens to be the most abbudent source on the planet. Plus every organizm lives off other ones by chance. Its pure coincidence that people breath oxogen and exhale carbon dioxide but plants are the exact opposite so that our earth always has both. So Plants and people could coexist. All this just by chance. So what kind of far fetched story do you believe in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwick
    The 10 commandments are:

    1) I am the Lord thy God.



    Ok, so he is boastful….not a good start.



    2) Thou shalt have no other gods besides me



    So he is also jealous……that’s kind of a pity/childish HUMAN emotion for a “GOD” don’t you think



    3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.



    God Damn it this one always gets me……I guess I’m going to hell now, see you guys later.



    4) Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy.



    Ok so God says its ok be lazy don’t do anything……I bet he voted for Obama.



    5) Honor thy Father and Mother.



    Have you met my parents…..ok then.



    6) Thou shalt not murder.



    I haven’t yet but I thought about it and according to the Bible a sin in the mind is as bad as a sin in the flesh.



    7) Thou shalt not commit adultery.



    Come on, you gotta play the field some.*same rules as #6.



    8) Thou shalt not steal.



    I took a piece of gum from my brother when I was 7, and im not sorry for doing it.



    9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.



    Ok so don’t lie…..who here has ever lied? Who taught you how to lie?



    10) Thou shalt not covet.



    So basically your not suppose to want anything……that sucks.

    HAHA

    Lets do this together:

    1) I am the Lord thy God.



    Ok, so he is boastful….not a good start.
    Wouldn't you be if he could smite the earth with a blink of an eye?


    2) Thou shalt have no other gods besides me



    So he is also jealous……that’s kind of a pity/childish HUMAN emotion for a “GOD” don’t you think
    He doesn't want to share. And if you think that's childish, the next time a girl cheats on you, let it slide. because it's petty to be the only one.


    3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.



    God Damn it this one always gets me……I guess I’m going to hell now, see you guys later.
    You have got to be joking. Going to hell, for saying God Damn it.


    4) Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy.



    Ok so God says its ok be lazy don’t do anything……I bet he voted for Obama.
    God says nothing about being lazy. In fact, he says work and then rest on the 7th day in rememberance of him also resting. He is telling you that you can take a break every once in a while...


    5) Honor thy Father and Mother.



    Have you met my parents…..ok then.
    Does it matter what kind of parents they were? A Christian would say, "yes he has met your parents." You should still honor them and love them as your parents even if you can't respect hem as people.


    6) Thou shalt not murder.



    I haven’t yet but I thought about it and according to the Bible a sin in the mind is as bad as a sin in the flesh.
    You thinking about murder is called wooden swearing. It's having impure thoughts or showing discontent. Like wanting to kill someone in traffic or slamming the phone when you are frustrated. Not exactly a sin, but it does lead to worse things. Kind of like anger leading to the dark side...


    7) Thou shalt not commit adultery.



    Come on, you gotta play the field some.*same rules as #6.
    You continuously seem to think that just because you do something, it is justified as ok to do. It's not. Adultery is no where near as bad in society as it used to be, but it is still against the rules. Now, very few people follow this, but you are still breaking the rule if you have sex. And the sin of the mind is more coveting. You want something that isn't yours. But lust isn't neccesarily a sin. Everyone does it.


    8) Thou shalt not steal.



    I took a piece of gum from my brother when I was 7, and im not sorry for doing it.
    A piece of gum, come on, you have stolen worse. A piece of gum is petty. Again though, this goes back to your idea that says because it's ok to you, means it's ok.


    9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.



    Ok so don’t lie…..who here has ever lied? Who taught you how to lie?
    Actually Christians' believe that humans had the ability to lie. but it wasn;t until satan convinced Eve to eat the forbidden fruit did she know how to utilize the ability.


    10) Thou shalt not covet.



    So basically your not suppose to want anything……that sucks.

    He's not saying you can't want. Do not wish ill will on someone because of their assetts.


    I couldn't stop laughing because you thought this was a good way to come back against the 10 commandments.

    Just because your moral code is weak and flawed does not mean that everyone else can break the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stillaneon
    HAHA

    Lets do this together:



    Wouldn't you be if he could smite the earth with a blink of an eye?

    True but then again i am ony a petty human, why would God need to boast



    He doesn't want to share. And if you think that's childish, the next time a girl cheats on you, let it slide. because it's petty to be the only one.

    Once again I am human, why would a god need to be jealous


    You have got to be joking. Going to hell, for saying God Damn it.

    Hey big man up stairs says it bad so who amI to disagree.


    God says nothing about being lazy. In fact, he says work and then rest on the 7th day in rememberance of him also resting. He is telling you that you can take a break every once in a while...

    + points for you


    Does it matter what kind of parents they were? A Christian would say, "yes he has met your parents." You should still honor them and love them as your parents even if you can't respect hem as people.

    Go to DEFACS and tell that t e little 13 year old girl whos dad rapped and beat her she has to "honor" him.


    You thinking about murder is called wooden swearing. It's having impure thoughts or showing discontent. Like wanting to kill someone in traffic or slamming the phone when you are frustrated. Not exactly a sin, but it does lead to worse things. Kind of like anger leading to the dark side...

    the bible says no one sin is greater than the other and the mear though of a sin is equal to the action of carrin out that sin


    You continuously seem to think that just because you do something, it is justified as ok to do. It's not. Adultery is no where near as bad in society as it used to be, but it is still against the rules. Now, very few people follow this, but you are still breaking the rule if you have sex. And the sin of the mind is more coveting. You want something that isn't yours. But lust isn't neccesarily a sin. Everyone does it.

    1. the 10 commandments dont say anthig about what "society" thinks about sin, it says do any of tese things and your a bad person.

    2.Like above the bible says thinking of a sin or in a sinfull manner is equal to auctualy carring out the sin.



    A piece of gum, come on, you have stolen worse. A piece of gum is petty. Again though, this goes back to your idea that says because it's ok to you, means it's ok.

    Yes stealing gum is very petty and I have stole worse ,the point I was making is that stealing gum is equal to stealing a car in gods eyes, as I have stated befor no one sin geater than the other.


    Actually Christians' believe that humans had the ability to lie. but it wasn;t until satan convinced Eve to eat the forbidden fruit did she know how to utilize the ability.

    Having the ability to do something and knowing how to utilize that ability are to very different things.




    He's not saying you can't want. Do not wish ill will on someone because of their assetts.

    Every one wants something you dont have even if you dont wish ill will on some one else for what they have the simple fact that you want what they have is covetting.

    I couldn't stop laughing because you thought this was a good way to come back against the 10 commandments.

    It was more of way to show simple human nature that everyone does on a daily basis has to be suppresed accordig to the bible.

    Just because your moral code is weak and flawed does not mean that everyone else can break the rules.
    My moral code is just fine as it is, It mght not be as well structured as other but then again your only judging me off of post so you wouldnt realy have clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 99hatch
    No offense man, but thats not at all what the Bible says. It states that if you believe in Jesus and believe he is God's Son and our Messiah. Then You will have eternal life.
    added note: Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah, but not the son of God. They don't believe in the Trinity.

    Quote Originally Posted by 99hatch
    The Ten Commandments are just a list of rules to follow to keep your life in line. Most governments are based off these rules. Plus its not that hard to follow them. Dont murder, dont steal, dont commit adultry, and dont have any false gods before the one true God. I dont think this is a way of controling people. These are really just good basic rules to live by in any society. But it also states that our God is a forgiving God. Not like a magical Genie, but if you truely repent of your sins, then God will forgive you no matter what.
    ....and Judaism was founded based on God's covenant with the Jews and the Ten Commandments.

    Quote Originally Posted by qwick
    The 10 commandments are:

    1) I am the Lord thy God.



    Ok, so he is boastful….not a good start.



    2) Thou shalt have no other gods besides me



    So he is also jealous……that’s kind of a pity/childish HUMAN emotion for a “GOD” don’t you think



    3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.



    God Damn it this one always gets me……I guess I’m going to hell now, see you guys later.

    .....................

    An attempt to help open qwik's eyes...It's not just the Christians hommie. Christians aren't the only one's that believe in the Ten Commandments, they are also written in the Torah. If you mocked the words of the Torah, like you did with your blasphemous post of the Ten Commandments in Israel, you would most likley be beaten to death. Same goes for Islam, if you were anywhere in the middle east and mocked the words of Jesus, or the prophet Mohamed, you would most likely be killed. So laugh it out while you can you pedantic fool. Religion is not a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG WORM
    added note: Muslims believe Jesus is the Messiah, but not the son of God. They don't believe in the Trinity.

    ....and Judaism was founded based on God's covenant with the Jews and the Ten Commandments.

    An attempt to help open qwik's eyes...It's not just the Christians hommie. Christians aren't the only one's that believe in the Ten Commandments, they are also written in the Torah. If you mocked the words of the Torah, like you did with your blasphemous post of the Ten Commandments in Israel, you would most likley be beaten to death. Same goes for Islam, if you were anywhere in the middle east and mocked the words of Jesus, or the prophet Mohamed, you would most likely be killed. So laugh it out while you can you pedantic fool. Religion is not a joke.
    Who is laughing. I made no Joke and Im not laughing. Nor did I bash the Ten Commandments, but the gentleman i replied to was saying basically that if you follow the Ten Commandments then you are going to heaven and if you dont follow them then you are going to hell. That is just simply not the case, especially in Christianity. First off God is forgiving and will forgive you if you do break these Commandments. (of course you have to show actual remorse when you ask for forgivness.) I am in no way saying go out and break the commandments. I just believe that they are rules for you to live by. But What did Jesus say to the theif that was on the cross next to him before they died. He forgave him, even though he was a thief. He broke one of the commandments by stealing. But he saw the wrong in his ways and how awsome Jesus was for staying there on the Cross for Mankind. I was just shedding light on one fact that Christianity is based on more than just the Ten Commandments. If you would like to discuss other bits of the Bible I am more than willing. I cannot tell you about Muslims although i have done a good bit of research about their religion. I can only tell you what I believe. I dont believe in what Muslims believe, nor do I believe what mormons believe, although some of our beliefs do share some commonalities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 99hatch
    Who is laughing. I made no Joke and Im not laughing. Nor did I bash the Ten Commandments, but the gentleman i replied to was saying basically that if you follow the Ten Commandments then you are going to heaven and if you dont follow them then you are going to hell. That is just simply not the case, especially in Christianity. First off God is forgiving and will forgive you if you do break these Commandments. (of course you have to show actual remorse when you ask for forgivness.) I am in no way saying go out and break the commandments. I just believe that they are rules for you to live by. But What did Jesus say to the theif that was on the cross next to him before they died. He forgave him, even though he was a thief. He broke one of the commandments by stealing. But he saw the wrong in his ways and how awsome Jesus was for staying there on the Cross for Mankind. I was just shedding light on one fact that Christianity is based on more than just the Ten Commandments. If you would like to discuss other bits of the Bible I am more than willing. I cannot tell you about Muslims although i have done a good bit of research about their religion. I can only tell you what I believe. I dont believe in what Muslims believe, nor do I believe what mormons believe, although some of our beliefs do share some commonalities.
    I should clarify,
    I was agreeing with you post,
    That's why I quoted it.
    I was adding to to it and directing the post towards "Qwik"


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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG WORM
    I should clarify,
    I was agreeing with you post,
    That's why I quoted it.
    I was adding to to it and directing the post towards "Qwik"


    fixed....
    Ohh ok i see what you did now, lol. I was thinking, where was I laughing at the ten commandments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG WORM
    An attempt to help open qwik's eyes...It's not just the Christians hommie. Christians aren't the only one's that believe in the Ten Commandments, they are also written in the Torah. If you mocked the words of the Torah, like you did with your blasphemous post of the Ten Commandments in Israel, you would most likley be beaten to death. Same goes for Islam, if you were anywhere in the middle east and mocked the words of Jesus, or the prophet Mohamed, you would most likely be killed. So laugh it out while you can you pedantic fool. Religion is not a joke.



    I agree if I did live over in the Middle East I would most likely be killed for the beliefs I have here in the United States. Of course if I would have grown up over there I am willing to bet that my views on this subject would be drastically different, due to the fact that they them selves are so close minded that no other alternative to their religion is tolerated.



    Religion may or may not be a joke to you, but to me it is and I have the right to think that, just as you have the right to choose to believe in a religion. I also realize that the 10 commandments are part of other religions aside from just Christianity.
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