Quote Originally Posted by qwick
Originally Posted by stillaneon

Tithing is something you do to the church. to pay bills, because even though its a non profit, water and electricity still get used. Tehy also use that money to help the community, feed the homeless and keep the building and property up.

You cannot give moeny to God. What does he need is for? He lives where the streets are paved with one of our most precious metals. You tithe because you are giving back to him by sacraficing something that is important to you to show faith.
Right all the money given to some guy on the TV go to what you listed above? come on man realy you think that? Search yahoo for the homes of some of the televangelist, there freaking huge and extravagnt, If they were so worried about being close to god the moey they spent on their home woud have been sent back in to the communitys. Now yes some churches do give back to communitys and yes i know they have bills to pay but think about this, lets say we go to this church that has 15 (average american) members. How much money a week are you bringing in if every one tiths 40% or even only 20%?

There is a difference between murder and killing. Death is part of life and there have been numerous times that God himself has demanded his people kill. The Crusades though, were none of this. These were Christian men who decided to take back the Holy Land, oh, and rescue their King. Even though they proclaimed it was for God, there is nothing (accepted as God's word) that states he asked for the war.

I never said God had to say go kill, I just ment that if "King whatever" says kill a person or group of people and some one ask why it is accepted and more palatable if his respons is "god said so"

People know what they are taught. and even the bible says, you will not be punished for what you don't know. If you were never introduced to him, then you can't be punished for making the wrong choice.

The point here is that chistians belive in a very far fetched story, replace this story with another one or a fairy tale and all of a sudden its laughble, or even more so.

Jack and the Beanstalk? seriously

Ok the old testement in a nut shell: God say to Joseph "im gonna knock up you wife, dont worry tho she will still be a virgin. She will give birth to a baby boy named Jesus that is realy me."

*Skip ahead a little*

Jesus who is also god goes around and does "magic" and "heals" people and also teaches that his "father" (who by the way didnt have sex with his mom and is also him)sent him here to teach ever one about God(his self).

*skip ahead some more*

Some guy gets mad at Jesus(God) and decides to kill him. And in stead of saving him self with his "magic" he lets it happen to frogive the sins of every one past, present and future. Now Jeasus and God who are the one and the same but NOT are chillen in this very exclusive club called Heaven, and the only way in is to follow there rules here on earth.
This is so ridiculously off base its not even funny. If you dont want to believe in God thats cool man. Everyone has to a choice to make their own decisions. But if your going to try to make an intelligent argument against Christianity you need to do a little research on the subject. When you say, this sounds like a made up story, its because it is. You just made it up.

To start Tything is 10% of your income not 40. Uncle Sam takes about 28% and up of your income. Maybe you should see what he is doing with all the money. Like stillaneon said, Tything is something you do to 1. help the church with bills and helping the community. 2. to show a leap of faith by God. It also states that those who give to God will be rewarded heavily. Its a leap of faith. Lets say you give up 100 bucks a month. You love your money and dont want to give it up.....Believe me, God makes it up to you. Plus it helps countless people.

Yes there are TV evangelists out there that are doing nothing more than ripping people off. There are also ones who are truely trying to help people. You cannot blame God for those idiots that take advantage of the "God" name just to rip you off. That is there choice, and those who are real Chirstians can tell the difference based on what they preach, and if God is truely speaking through them.

You say Christianty is a far fetched story. Look at the Big Bang Theory. So you mean to tell me, out of no where there was this very small mass created. Then this mass that popped up out of nowhere exploded. The just by chance these single cell organizims were created from dust, then turned into thousands of species of Animals and plant life. Then some turned into monkeys that eventually got smart and became human. Let me ask you, why didnt lions evolve into something smarter and able to build things? Why just monkeys? Also pretty interesting that everything on this earth lives off Water and that happens to be the most abbudent source on the planet. Plus every organizm lives off other ones by chance. Its pure coincidence that people breath oxogen and exhale carbon dioxide but plants are the exact opposite so that our earth always has both. So Plants and people could coexist. All this just by chance. So what kind of far fetched story do you believe in?