Why don't you believe in God?

[Hulud]

Give examples.

it was written by humans, the fact that they make ot humans to be supreme, noah and the ark, the bible basically 'scares' (not the best word) people into doing good (which doesnt work from what i can see out of most christians), makes people not live their lives to the fullest, the whole god always forgives thing, i could go on for hours, but ill stop there for now

[ISAtlanta300]

By all means, go on.. this is after all, the Religion room and religious discussions....

[Jaimecbr900]

it was written by humans,

Name 1 book that WASN'T.......

the fact that they make ot humans to be supreme,

In my bible, GOD is supreme. Maybe YOU should try and READ the bible before you start a critique about it, huh????

noah and the ark, the bible basically 'scares' (not the best word) people into doing good (which doesnt work from what i can see out of most christians)

Because we all know that non-Christians are sooooo perfect and do nothing wrong, huh????

People want things handed to them w/o any work. Work is not easy by definition or it wouldn't be work at all. You call it being "scared", I call it telling it like it is.

makes people not live their lives to the fullest

Name one real example of where a Christian DIDN'T "live" their life to the "fullest" simply BECAUSE they were Christian.

You keep just saying things that are so general and mundane to try and prove something, but you don't give a single example of how it applies.

the whole god always forgives thing

He does. What's the point?

[Hulud]

Name 1 book that WASN'T.......

i know but people believe in this book like the ones who wrote it would never exaggerate the truth to look better just how i feel

In my bible, GOD is supreme. Maybe YOU should try and READ the bible before you start a critique about it, huh????

yes god is supreme but it makes humans out to be better than anyother living organism on this planet. and the fact that animals serve humans? there only existance is to feed us, now thats a little farfetched for me to believe

Because we all know that non-Christians are sooooo perfect and do nothing wrong, huh????

when did i say that?

People want things handed to them w/o any work. Work is not easy by definition or it wouldn't be work at all. You call it being "scared", I call it telling it like it is.

who said anything about handouts?

He does. What's the point?

that most christians i have encountered act like they can do what they please and then worry about it later and repent for it, just seems kinds like a HUGE loop hole to me

[Jaimecbr900]

i know but people believe in this book like the ones who wrote it would never exaggerate the truth to look better just how i feel

Have you ever thought about the possibility that some people CHOOSE to believe the content rather than dig to China to find where something was misspelled or mistranslated???????

Just because I call something a HOUSE and you call it a HUT does NOT change the fact that BOTH are a roof over someone's head. You call it one thing and I another, yet we both SAY the same basic thing.

yes god is supreme but it makes humans out to be better than anyother living organism on this planet. and the fact that animals serve humans? there only existance is to feed us, now thats a little farfetched for me to believe

Well to be honest I sort of agree with you on one thing:

I've known some animals that are smarter than some people.

when did i say that?

You inferred that when you said, "bible scares....into doing "good"....(...which DOESN'T work....for CHRISTIANS.." So you are inferring that it does for NON-Christians. If you didn't mean that, then I take it back.

that most christians i have encountered act like they can do what they please and then worry about it later and repent for it, just seems kinds like a HUGE loop hole to me

And if that's true, how is that any different from YOU?????

Atleast Christians TRY to repent, what do YOU do? Sin and forget about it????

[Hulud]

You inferred that when you said, "bible scares....into doing "good"....(...which DOESN'T work....for CHRISTIANS.." So you are inferring that it does for NON-Christians. If you didn't mean that, then I take it back.

nah thats not what i meant.
i just feel like the bible is used to scare people into doing what some believe is right, ibelieve that with all religion but i feel that people should be able to do what is right by choice rather than by fear of the afterlife

And if that's true, how is that any different from YOU?????

Atleast Christians TRY to repent, what do YOU do? Sin and forget about it????

i dont think what ihave said on here is a sin so i have nothing to wish i had done differently

[Jaimecbr900]

nah thats not what i meant.
i just feel like the bible is used to scare people into doing what some believe is right, ibelieve that with all religion but i feel that people should be able to do what is right by choice rather than by fear of the afterlife

This is where my comment of "getting something for nothing" came from.

You can't expect to get a wonderful eternal afterlife by simply muddling thru life and doing what YOU "feel is right". You have to EARN it. It's not that hard. The sacrifice was already laid down for you on the cross, but you have to make a concious effort and decision to BELIEVE that act. WHEN you do, THEN you are worthy of reaping the rewards. UNTIL THEN, you are not worthy and you will NOT receive it. That's the bottomline and that's reality (as we Christians see it of course).

This is why I said to you earlier that going by your Ho-Hum stance on how to live life, it would seem that you were expecting things to be given vs earned. That's all I'm saying.

i dont think what ihave said on here is a sin so i have nothing to wish i had done differently

That may be true, but you are indeed a sinner regardless. You said that you have a problem with Christians thinking they're all high and mighty because they can "sin" and then merely ask for forgiveness and everything is hunky dorry. Well, my point to you was simply that atleast THEY are asking for forgiveness whereas you don't. Both of you are sinners the same, but only one asks for forgiveness. Follow that?

God gives no restrictions on WHOM he is going to forgive. Jesus died for ALL of us the same. The only caveat is that you must truly be sorry for what you did, you must acknowledge what you did, and you must not repeat it.

[civic95]

Well the way I look at it this world is too perfect to be coincedence. We are made up of water, why water? why not something else? Our cells live off oxygen, why? Something had to make us to live off of specifically what this planet has to offer. They way the eco systems work, etc.. The supply of food (animals). The human body and its systems are very well designed. It's hard to imagine it's all evolution. There is no way this is all just random. Otherwise why wouldn't things evolve on mars or some other planets? Then when you think that people used to walk barefoot, and live in caves compared to everything we've made today with things from this earth it's really amazing.

Then I wonder sometimes if the bible was created to make people have some kind of guilt for their actions. Looking at just New Orleans you can see the chaos that people are capable of when they have no sense of consequences. What if you die, and thats it? You don't go anywhere. I hope we atleast find out what this was all for and how it came about.