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    Quote Originally Posted by Ncturnal

    And so what if there is proof that Jesus existed? It doesn't make the fairy tales true. How many times has that story been passed down now? Try passing a story around a room with 50 people, where 1 person tells the story to the next and so on. By the time it gets to #50, it's not even remotely the same as when it started.
    The Bible is not merely someone whispering into their neighbor's ear in a crowded room during a silly game. It is actually a compillation of BOOKS that were WRITTEN DOWN. How many times it's been "told" or "passed down" means nothing about the CONTENT of the book itself. If that logic were so, since there are far more STUDENTS than Christians, then good ole HISTORY books would be an absolute waste of the paper they're written on since HISTORY class is taught far more times than Bible reading classes.

    Right or wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    The Bible is not merely someone whispering into their neighbor's ear in a crowded room during a silly game. It is actually a compillation of BOOKS that were WRITTEN DOWN. How many times it's been "told" or "passed down" means nothing about the CONTENT of the book itself. If that logic were so, since there are far more STUDENTS than Christians, then good ole HISTORY books would be an absolute waste of the paper they're written on since HISTORY class is taught far more times than Bible reading classes.

    Right or wrong?
    Wrong. Sure, it was written down eventually, but not right away in most cases. In some cases, like Moses who wrote the first 5 books, it was a long fucking time before any of it was written, not to mention being translated by even more humans. There are literally thousands of different religions based on what is "supposedly" the same book. How the hell can that be? I'm certain at this point, we are so fucking far off that it would be laughable if we knew the actual truth. Keep buying into the bullshit you've been fed your whole life if it makes you feel better though, just don't be suprised when someone else can see if for the fairy tale it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    It's ironic that you have "faith" in extraterrestrial life that has NEVER been seen, proven, or even heard, yet you have no "faith" that Jesus lived although there are countless of records showing the contrary. It seems that Jesus is far more likely to have been a reality than getting all excited about a squiggly line in a rock on Mars that even in your report admits NOT that it "is" but that it "MAY BE" something. Again, it's something that will NEVER be able to be directly rebutted since the rock will ALWAYS remain on Mars and unable to be looked at by scientists except thru blurry pics.
    your way of thinking is very closed for someone so smart ... "faith/belief" is how i posted, and i never stated i have faith in anything... a belief that something is true yes, b/c the story i post is a rock that is here in the US maybe you should read up some more. that rock is real and blurry picture your talking about is it being examined under a micro scope.

    How can you say Jesus was reality knowling you have no proof of this other than a book that has been manipulated and written by man. So in this case the rock is real, when you find the body of christ let me know... by the way your savior isn't even as old as caveman we have found so what does that say for your proof. If we have the knowledge yet you smart christians can't find your savior maybe he doesn't exsist and the book you been basing your life on is nothing more than a fable or the great work of the Deciever

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    your way of thinking is very closed for someone so smart ... "faith/belief" is how i posted, and i never stated i have faith in anything... a belief that something is true yes, b/c the story i post is a rock that is here in the US maybe you should read up some more. that rock is real and blurry picture your talking about is it being examined under a micro scope.

    I used the word FAITH simply because by definition it is believing in something that logically can't be explained. It's a play on words. YOU said you felt that there had to be life in outer space eventhough none has ever been seen, heard, or found in the entire existance of mankind, i.e. you have "faith" (because it defies logic) that something that can't be seen IS there yet you can't believe people like me have faith of a different kind???

    Again, like I told Brian ealier.....you can't have it both ways.

    How can you say Jesus was reality knowling you have no proof of this other than a book that has been manipulated and written by man.
    Now, you mean to tell me that you honestly believe that I don't have any "proof" that Jesus was real????? After our many discussions????

    I'll clarify it further then because you obviously didn't listen to me:

    I have ALL the "proof" that I need to believe that Jesus not only existed but is also my only way to salvation.

    I don't need a fossil or some writing in a cave wall to convince me any further. Kinda like Renee Zelwegger (sp?) said to Tom Cruise when she said the line, "You had me at "hello"..." I stopped questioning IF there was a GOD, Jesus, Angels, Heaven, Hell, and everything else when I simply admitted that I "believed". When I came to that decision, I also made a conscious decision to not question the Bible either. That is totally my choice and I made it because I wanted to.

    You have a completely different view and like I also said to Bryan, that is totally your perrogative. I am neither responsible for that decision, because I tried to tell you what little I know, nor going to have to live by that decision. That's just how the ball bounces sort of speak.

    You're not any less a friend of mine. We just totally disagree on this subject and that too is life.



    by the way your savior isn't even as old as caveman we have found so what does that say for your proof. If we have the knowledge yet you smart christians can't find your savior maybe he doesn't exsist and the book you been basing your life on is nothing more than a fable or the great work of the Deciever

    How many cavemen were there all together? Throughout the age of the cavemen? Maybe quite a few, huh? Let's go a little further, how many people have been on the face of the earth, according to the HISTORY books you hold as so totally true, in just the last 2000 years? Billions? Let's go even further, how many "famous" people that YOU believe lived that were around AFTER Jesus' time do we have "remains" of today??????

    My point is that once again because you are using logic to try and decipher something that is FAITH based, you are chasing your tail around in circles. Even if you use your logic, how come you believe whole heartedly that Constantine the Great in fact existed even though there are no fossils of his body but merely history books writen about him?????? Again, it really boils down to what you WANT to believe and what you don't.

    My point to all you is that yall CHOOSE to believe some things that defy logic but then question others that are just as defying to logic. Again, you can't have it both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Limited? The radio telescope in Puerto Rico can "hear" farther than any telescope can "see" and it scans millions of frequencies in the entire spectrum constantly. Unless aliens speak and live via ESP, that radio scope would've picked it up. It is one of it's functions to be on a constant listen for ANY type of communication or sound of ANY extraterrestrial life, and in the last 40+ years it's found....Hmmmmm.......NONE.
    Just a thought here but if that telescope can hear or what ever and hasnt heard anything, then wouldnt that in fact mean that it dosent work.....Just considering the amount of astronauts we have had walk the moon. I beleive that they had radio's...........But then again...Just a thought....

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    ^ your back bone for discussion is that "you believe" that is not fact or truth. i love these kind of talks b/c religious people will try to prove what they can but when it comes to down to content you are full out of it; like the rest. lets take the noah story people trying to prove it is real up in the turkey mountains, why is there a need to prove if all you have to do is believe. this discussion is the same you use your Telescope to try to state a reason why there isn't life else where, but when asked to back up your own belief system you can't.

    In your own words "YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS".

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    ^ your back bone for discussion is that "you believe" that is not fact or truth. i love these kind of talks b/c religious people will try to prove what they can but when it comes to down to content you are full out of it; like the rest. lets take the noah story people trying to prove it is real up in the turkey mountains, why is there a need to prove if all you have to do is believe. this discussion is the same you use your Telescope to try to state a reason why there isn't life else where, but when asked to back up your own belief system you can't.

    In your own words "YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS".
    That's really simple to explain actually.

    It's non-believers like you guys that constantly want something to touch and examine and question that make us come full circle around to what was told to you since the beginning: We simply believe.

    People like you guys can't take that as an answer. You have to have fossils and pictures on a cave to believe. Again, that is totally your perrogative. Some people need whatever they need to believe or not believe. Some of us got to a point in our lives where it all made sense and clicked. Some of you haven't or will never get there. Once again, that is yall's perrogative. Like I said before, this whole argument can go easy way or the long hard way. The ironic thing is that it really boils down to a simple answer: You either believe it or you don't. It really is that black and white and that cut and dry. We can micro disect this 50 ways to Sunday, but it doesn't make it any more or any less than what it is. Believe or not. It's an individual perrogative and sometimes try as you may you can't convince everyone as to the "why".

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    Again, it's simply ironic that you guys hold that much hope for something that is far LESS likely to EVER be "proven", yet yall trip all over yourselves to try and "prove" the Bible is wrong.

    Let me ask you a question: Do you believe in miracles or do you believe in chance?
    How can you say that aliens are less likely to be proven when we are still in baby steps of science... lets take all who have ever been in space, how many is that under 200 people? now lets take the millions of followers in christianity over the 1000's of years of exsistance, and your trying to say aliens are less likely to be proven - nice try

    and no there are no such things as miracles, i'll tell you why, if i put a gun to your head and you prayed for a miracle not to die, either A) trigger is pulled and bullet enters your body and your dead or B) gun mis fires and its a miracle... Wanna test it?

    You CAN hold the Bible in your hands, i.e. tangible. You CAN'T hold an alien in your hand, i.e. NOT tangible. Yet you believe the NON-tangible over the other because what????? There is NO proof Jesus ever existed in YOUR mind but of something that has never been seen in the entire history of the world....THAT you have an "open" mind about and BELIEVE exists?????
    if i sent you to the christian book store and told you to buy a bible you could choose from 100s... there are books/stories older than the bible but i don't hold them to be tangible proof. I guess if we did it there way you think any book can be tangible proof. Hey i got a bunch of books on polythesism i guess Zeus is real then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    How can you say that aliens are less likely to be proven when we are still in baby steps of science... lets take all who have ever been in space, how many is that under 200 people? now lets take the millions of followers in christianity over the 1000's of years of exsistance, and your trying to say aliens are less likely to be proven - nice try
    That's where you're wrong.

    If you are a "follower", then you believe. Right? So therefore just like me, they have NO doubts about their faith. So to those millions of people it HAS been PROVEN to their satisfaction that Jesus lived. So I don't follow what you are trying to say by saying that 200 vs millions shows ANY proof to your satisfaction that Aliens exist. It would seem to me that it would show the exact opposite. Millions of people CONVINCED that Jesus lived vs much less that believe Aliens exist. I don't follow what the numbers of believers has to do with believing Aliens exist.


    and no there are no such things as miracles, i'll tell you why, if i put a gun to your head and you prayed for a miracle not to die, either A) trigger is pulled and bullet enters your body and your dead or B) gun mis fires and its a miracle... Wanna test it?
    You need to read your Bible in order to understand what a true miracle is.

    A miracle is not something you merely ask for and poof you get it. A miracle is something that happens that defies logic yet it happens, but the key is that it that God is the one who decides WHEN and to WHOM it's going to happen. He is in control because he is the only one that KNOWS what your plan in life is.

    Therefore, if it is HIS will that the gun you point at my head misfires to prove a point to YOU, then it will happen. If it is his will that I die, then it will not misfire.


    if i sent you to the christian book store and told you to buy a bible you could choose from 100s...
    And 99% of them say the exact same thing, except maybe in different languages, or having clarifications in the margins, or certain things highlighted, but the main thing is that the content remains the SAME.

    My Grandmother is a Jehova's Witness. Her Bible has almost the same identical text as my Bible. I'm Methodist. The difference is NOT in the the words printed on the pages, it's in what we believe. She believes something totally different than I do. That is where Religions differ. She is not a Christian, but yet believes that Christ was here. Go figure.



    there are books/stories older than the bible but i don't hold them to be tangible proof.
    Yes you do. You believe the history books about Constantine the Great don't you? Yet, there isn't a single fossil or picture of him is there? You are merely believing what some "human" wrote about him and it eventually took form of a history book, right? Why is it that Constantine ruled in the same time period as when the first books of the Bible were written, yet HIS history is to be believed while the Bible is to be questioned merely for being as old and passed down thru the centuries in the exact same way HISTORY is??????

    I guess if we did it there way you think any book can be tangible proof. Hey i got a bunch of books on polythesism i guess Zeus is real then.
    No. The way I think is that people have a choice of what to believe and what not to believe. We are all given that choice. If after hearing about Christianity you CHOOSE not to believe, that is your choice. If after hearing about Zeus I CHOOSE not to believe it, that's also a choice I can make. The key is that you have to live and die by the choices you make in life. I choose to put my faith with Jesus as opposed to Zeus. If I make the wrong choice, I will pay for that wrong choice. So will everyone single person pay or benefit for their own personal choices. That's just the way it is. You either believe or don't believe in something. There is no gray area. I don't see how that's even possible. By choosing one you are automatically choosing NOT to be a part of the other, so there really is no gray area.

    People would like to believe that riding the fence on this issue is the safest bet, but in reality if you don't profess to believe something you really don't believe it and therefore are part of one side of the fence by default.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    it completely foolish to think we are alone
    You need to read the first 4 pages of this thread.

    We're WAY beyond that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    You need to read the first 4 pages of this thread.

    We're WAY beyond that.....
    Some of us are beyond it, but some haven't quite grasped reality yet. **cough**Jaime**cough**

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ncturnal
    Some of us are beyond it, but some haven't quite grasped reality yet. **cough**Jaime**cough**

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    Do you believe we are alone in this Universe??? What is your take, life exsisting on other planets, galaxys, & planes would defiantely throw a wrench to the bible and everything many have grown up to beleive. I did hear on the last space expedition to Mars they confirmed water molecules in rocks/salt which would say there is single cell organisms. That is the most basic form of life but it is life none the less.
    Short answer - NO.

    Actually the Bible speaks of the "Worlds" (plural) saying God created the worlds, so there would in fact be no "wrench thrown" to the Bible.

    A better question might be...Do you think an Almighty, All Knowing Creator, who "is without beginning or end" would only have one measley little creation project?? (known as Earth)

    I highly doubt it moreover the Bible suggests otherwise.

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    I think there are there is to much space for us to be the only race in the Universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    Do you believe we are alone in this Universe??? What is your take, life exsisting on other planets, galaxys, & planes would defiantely throw a wrench to the bible and everything many have grown up to beleive
    how is that? was God supposed to go tell Moses, "Hey, btw tell everyone that there are Super intelligent alien beings out in the universe capable of things that your minds could never comprehend. Not that they would "get" aliens."....


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    in a nutshell, the possibility for life less, equally and more advanced than our own is great. considering there are more planets and stars than we have grains of sand on out beaches worldwide.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmonrah
    in a nutshell, the possibility for life less, equally and more advanced than our own is great. considering there are more planets and stars than we have grains of sand on out beaches worldwide.
    ^^^^^^Word^^^^^^

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    you want to talk biblically - in essence it says God created the Earth and the Heavens ( referring to space here ) - and that right there it kinda obscure, leaving open the VERY good possibility of life existing otherwise. I mean, do you see other planets being named in there? Nope, so why would the Bible mention it in the creation etc etc


    but me personally? Yeah, I do believe life does exist out there, but as Albert Einstein put it

    " To think that we're not alone in this universe is simply amazing.
    But to also think that we are along in the universe is equally as shattering."

    anywho, if we're the only life existing planet, then thats lame

    and its a whole lot of fucking wasted space ( lolz )


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    it's like this; have you ever been the "only" person in Wal-Mart? No, of course not. So what makes you think we could be the only 1's in the Universe?
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    True. But where's my sig?!! (lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by {X}Echo419
    it's like this; have you ever been the "only" person in Wal-Mart? No, of course not. So what makes you think we could be the only 1's in the Universe?
    LIRL!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmonrah
    LIRL!!!
    thanks
    how's bout some +1?
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    True. But where's my sig?!! (lol)

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    The truly ironic thing is how everyone that whole heartedly believes in E.T.'s ONLY real argument to the very existance of something that has NEVER been found in the entire history of earth is......yall ready...."POSSIBILITY (IES)" yet crazy bible thumping zealouts (as I've been called ) are just off our rockers for believing in a "GOD".......

    Let's get this straight:

    God=no "possibility" in some of yall's eyes.....because?????.....no tangible "proof"......right?

    Aliens=perfectly logical and plausible......yet there has NEVER been "proof" found in the entire history of earth EVEN WITH sophisticated 21st Century EQUIPMENT looking FOR that proof for a LOOOONNNNGGGG time.......


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    we are not alone..........oh oh....lolz

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    I agree with you, Jaime. There is no tangible proof. At least that we know of. I know it's not certain, verify-able proof, but there are countless photos of supposed UFOs. Also, we'll never know what NASA has hidden away, you know. There is no "photo" of God or anything of the sort. I'm not using that to try and disprove God. Just mentioning that in relation to your statement about believing in ETs and not God. But, again. I do agree with your analogy. BTW, I still find it hard to believe that we would be the only existing beings in the whole of everything. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodge®
    I agree with you, Jaime. There is no tangible proof. At least that we know of. I know it's not certain, verify-able proof, but there are countless photos of supposed UFOs. Also, we'll never know what NASA has hidden away, you know. There is no "photo" of God or anything of the sort. I'm not using that to try and disprove God. Just mentioning that in relation to your statement about believing in ETs and not God. But, again. I do agree with your analogy. BTW, I still find it hard to believe that we would be the only existing beings in the whole of everything. Later, QD.

    And to be honest, I wouldn't die of a heart attack should a UFO crash in a desert somewhere tomorrow.

    I currently don't see how after years of actually LOOKING FOR aliens we've never found any, BUT that doesn't necessarily mean that I'd be devastated if an alien fell out of the sky.

    My whole contention in this discussion has been more about why it is that some of the same people that have debated vigorously with me in the past about the lack of existence of "GOD" are the very ones that whole heartedly believe in aliens yet there is no "proof" of that either. I didn't intend for this to become another "belief vs non-belief" debates, but obviously I've had to defend this idea in the course of this discussion.

    In other words, how come someone can "imagine" an alien, yet not be able to "imagine" the existance of "God"? Vivid imagination for one thing, but not another? There's no "proof" of aliens that they are aware of, so how come they can "believe" w/o proof on that, but to believe in "God" they need a ton of "proof"???? THAT is what doesn't make any common sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    And to be honest, I wouldn't die of a heart attack should a UFO crash in a desert somewhere tomorrow.
    I read ya. I wouldn't either. Although it would be awesome discovery, lolol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    I currently don't see how after years of actually LOOKING FOR aliens we've never found any,
    That we know of. But, in reality to us common people, I agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    why it is that some of the same people that have debated vigorously with me in the past about the lack of existence of "GOD" are the very ones that whole heartedly believe in aliens yet there is no "proof" of that either.
    That's why I brought up the pictures thing. There are "photos" that are available to us of supposed UFOs, but not of God. Some people will base off that. Also, just not knowing the vastness of space and thinking we're the only ones here is just too great to doubt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    There's no "proof" of aliens that they are aware of, so how come they can "believe" w/o proof on that, but to believe in "God" they need a ton of "proof"???? THAT is what doesn't make any common sense to me.
    Agreed.

    Remember, my posts, this includes past posts on God, don't reflect my belief. I don't know my extent, but I do think there is a God. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodge®

    That's why I brought up the pictures thing. There are "photos" that are available to us of supposed UFOs, but not of God. Some people will base off that. Also, just not knowing the vastness of space and thinking we're the only ones here is just too great to doubt.
    I see your point, just don't see how we've not been able to find something more tangible than smudgy pics in all this time. Yes, I know there are stories out there of alien abductions and sightings, but scientifically they should've been able to find something more concrete than that by now since we have substantially more advanced technology now than we did say back in the 50's.

    It is hard to believe that in the vastness of space there isn't anyone else. But if there is....how come if they're so advanced to be able to space travel at will seemingly, why wouldn't they be able to communicate with us "lesser" beings then? In other words, they're advanced enough to space travel and survive but they can't figure out how to talk to us????



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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodge®
    I agree with you, Jaime. There is no tangible proof. At least that we know of. I know it's not certain, verify-able proof, but there are countless photos of supposed UFOs. Also, we'll never know what NASA has hidden away, you know. There is no "photo" of God or anything of the sort. I'm not using that to try and disprove God. Just mentioning that in relation to your statement about believing in ETs and not God. But, again. I do agree with your analogy. BTW, I still find it hard to believe that we would be the only existing beings in the whole of everything. Later, QD.

    I hear ya loud and clear. The aliens have their "photo's". Religion has the bible, which accounts of such a God. Historical data on location of biblical events, the tomb of Christ, artifacts like the cross of Jesus etc etc.

    If one were to compare the two evidences altogether, I would say religion has the upper hand. All we have from "aliens" is alleged photo's and video's. No sounds, no writings, no documents, no artifacts, Nothing.

    We also don't know what "Rome" has hidden away... you know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300

    If one were to compare the two evidences altogether, I would say religion has the upper hand. All we have from "aliens" is alleged photo's and video's. No sounds, no writings, no documents, no artifacts, Nothing.
    But, on the other hand, the Bible is just a written book. No one can prove that it is/was word of God. Just on what people say is what it's based on, right? Artifacts are good tangible proof, but not necessarily of the existence of God. Just of old stuff, lolol. Cool as hail, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    We also don't know what "Rome" has hidden away... you know...
    This is the cool part. We have, it seems to me, a much better chance on coming closer to proving that God exists because we have a better chance on scouring Earth than we do space. Every time I read/hear on new discoveries, I get excited. It's awesome stuff. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodge®
    But, on the other hand, the Bible is just a written book. No one can prove that it is/was word of God. Just on what people say is what it's based on, right? Artifacts are good tangible proof, but not necessarily of the existence of God. Just of old stuff, lolol. Cool as hail, though.
    yea, I hear ya !! But some artifacts do point / correlate (sp?) with the story of Jesus and happenings in the bible that took place. So the myth is proved, the real debate I guess centers on whether he was the messiah or just a man... which will be harder to prove.

    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodge®
    This is the cool part. We have, it seems to me, a much better chance on coming closer to proving that God exists because we have a better chance on scouring Earth than we do space. Every time I read/hear on new discoveries, I get excited. It's awesome stuff. Later, QD.
    Likewise. Whichever way the pendulum swings..... Aliens or God.. or both.. I am sure it will be quite interesting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
    yea, I hear ya !! But some artifacts do point / correlate (sp?) with the story of Jesus and happenings in the bible that took place. So the myth is proved,
    But. At the same time, I could write a book with "made up" stuff and use actual landmarks in it, also. Lolol. Religion is just a weird(not in a bad sense), yet facinating thing. Later, QD.
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    i love to sit and think that there has to be. i think of the universe, and the many other known ones. i do not believe in a creator, but that is another subject. it would overjoy me to hear of another life form from another universe. and to see how it has( evolved, or been created, witchever u would like to believe) it would amaze me beyond belief.
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    There is way more than "smudgy pics" out there. Sorry to be the one to tell you all that. I will say as much as I can w/out saying what I can't --- there is a reason that billions are being poured into an INTERNATIONAL space station - and there is a reason that those billions will NEVER stop flowing. And it's not b/c they wanna do tests on animals in space.
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    E T go home......

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    Do you believe we are alone in this Universe??? What is your take, life exsisting on other planets, galaxys, & planes would defiantely throw a wrench to the bible and everything many have grown up to beleive. I did hear on the last space expedition to Mars they confirmed water molecules in rocks/salt which would say there is single cell organisms. That is the most basic form of life but it is life none the less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    Do you believe we are alone in this Universe??? What is your take, life exsisting on other planets, galaxys, & planes would defiantely throw a wrench to the bible and everything many have grown up to beleive. I did hear on the last space expedition to Mars they confirmed water molecules in rocks/salt which would say there is single cell organisms. That is the most basic form of life but it is life none the less.
    it would be foolish to think we are not. Take any religion you want, I can't think of 1 where it says definitativly(sp) that there are not other forms of life in the Universe. so anyone that says the ____ dosen't say that there ARE "aliens" go jump off something high. I don't remember reading about Meercats but they're here
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    Are we alone? Well... me being a ninja, naturally I'm a devout follower of the FIRST CHURCH OF THE FLYING AMPUTATED LIMBS, which is the biggest denomination of the Ninjutsuism religion. We don't so much believe in God as we play God with YOUR LIVES with our swords to your limbs and hands on your throat.

    But we believe you only kill those who are deserving, you know... everybody we possibly can. I attend Ninjutsu mass for 8 minutes every Thursday. (we ninjas do everything faster). While in church, all weapons are to be left under the pews. Ninjas never kneel themselves...EVER. No killing is permitted in church and it's usually quite noisy as ninjas are wise cracking assholes to the Ninja priests. We are expected keep our bodies pure by drinking the blood (actual blood) in a cup and eating the flesh (actual flesh not symbolic) of our savior, Lord Cutyufast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BABY J
    Are we alone? Well... me being a ninja, naturally I'm a devout follower of the FIRST CHURCH OF THE FLYING AMPUTATED LIMBS, which is the biggest denomination of the Ninjutsuism religion. We don't so much believe in God as we play God with YOUR LIVES with our swords to your limbs and hands on your throat.

    But we believe you only kill those who are deserving, you know... everybody we possibly can. I attend Ninjutsu mass for 8 minutes every Thursday. (we ninjas do everything faster). While in church, all weapons are to be left under the pews. Ninjas never kneel themselves...EVER. No killing is permitted in church and it's usually quite noisy as ninjas are wise cracking assholes to the Ninja priests. We are expected keep our bodies pure by drinking the blood (actual blood) in a cup and eating the flesh (actual flesh not symbolic) of our savior, Lord Cutyufast.
    LOL, wtf is this????


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    It's much wiser to believe in something you or others see, or have seen, than to believe in something simply by having faith.

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