Quote Originally Posted by AWD OWNZ U
http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/ig.php

Maybe that will explain it better than I can. I'm tired man so I'm not that eloquent. I took a logic class with that Jesus class.
That link is as much double talking as you were. No different.

You are simply not going to prove your case by not saying anything of substance. Much like A.D.D. it's all in what you want to believe. If you believe that double talk, believe it. I don't. It's that simple.

Not one of the non-believers have yet to answer my question directly:

WHY is it that you can hold faith out for aliens w/ no tangible proof in sight, yet dismiss Christianity due to lack of proof????? That is the biggest oxymoron in the world. Why won't anyone of you guys answer that question directly?



I guess the bottom line is I don't believe in faith. (it's validity obviously it exists)
Yes you do, you just don't want to admit it.

You believe in E.T.'s w/o logical proof. That, by definition, is FAITH. Look it up in the dictionary.


Truth is absolute, you cannot have a different truth than I do.
OK, Yoda. :jerkit:

What are you my mother now? I believe what I WANT to believe just as you do. I believe that Jesus Christ not only existed but is my saviour. THAT is TRUE to ME. YOU can't do a thing about that. YOU can choose to believe the same thing and then it becomes a truth to YOU. If you don't choose to believe it, it may not be true to YOU, but it doesn't change a thing for ME.

I don't understand how that's so hard to understand. You want to re-invent the wheel with all these Zen master sayings and it is simply conjecture. YOU think that because you SAY something it suddenly becomes gospel. That's simply not true. How in the world could you sit there and crassly tell ME what I KNOW to be MY "truth" HAS TO match what you think or it isn't "true"?????


I read their own page about what they do, it says nothing about searching for life. Maybe they use some of their equipment part time, but certainly not the whole facility all the time. Not that it really makes a difference.
Whatever. Again, another example of not seeing the forest for the trees. The only reason why you wouldn't see it is because you didn't want to.

It clearly says in plain English that SETI has had a home base at the Arecibo Observatory since 1963. It also says that although they don't get to use it around the clock, they are building a permanent unit in Cali that they will have the permanent use of.

I guess that this is also NOT an extended full time search for E.T.'s out there either, huh?:
http://www.bigear.org/guinness.htm

I guess in the UK, they also are NOT looking for E.T.'s using their telescopes either, huh?
http://www.jb.man.ac.uk/research/seti/

Australia isn't looking either:
http://seti.uws.edu.au/

http://seti.uws.edu.au/SETI%20Pages/...20SERENDIP.htm

I suppose Italy is not looking FULL TIME either:

http://www.seti-italia.cnr.it/Premessa/Premise.htm


I could do this all day. Had enough yet?



I don't believe in God, sorry. Well at least not the Christian notion of one.
That is your cross to bear. Pun intended.