The American Revolution 2 coming to the streets near you
maybe he will tear us apart.... but if he does it will be the people who are stupid as **** and the people who actually have a brain....
Yes, I think he will tear us apart.
No, he will bring us closer together.
The American Revolution 2 coming to the streets near you
maybe he will tear us apart.... but if he does it will be the people who are stupid as **** and the people who actually have a brain....
EF SQUAD FTMFW!!!!
i heard that he wasnt a religious man. so its not like he came every sunday and sat front and center. how often did he go? did he say?
The point I was trying to make was far from an individual assassinating him. Also, Reading comprehension>whomever said 'Reagan and Lincoln weren't young'. I never said they were, I saidMeh, forget it. Just reread my original post, maybe then you'll get what I was going for.Originally Posted by me
how many of you have heard the whole sermon? and of those of you that cared enough to listen to the whole thing and form your own opinion, how many took it as the babbling of a psycho and how many took it as a rehash of what edward peck said?
i personally do not htink it was a quote but i do think that he was referring to the words of peck and added his own flare to it...i cannot find any tape of the peck interveiw but im sure its out there. what i have heard from peck shows me that he has similar veiws as mr. wright.
you decide:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
and dont watch 1 minute of it and form your opinion. watch the whole 10 minutes. if you cant sit down and watch the whole video then you obviously dont care enough to be in this debate we are having.
note: im not sayin the guy is right or wrong and i am also of the belief that religion should have nothing to do with who i vote for. im sure he does not agree with the way i run my life also. i have my opinions and everyone else has theirs.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw&feature=related
or you can watch this one where he blames the US govt for blacks being in lower paying jobs today by saying that they barr them from higher education. The last couple of minutes is the important part. Before that its pretty pointless rambling.
face it, Wright is a racist and uses the uneducated to spread his hate.
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White people created aids to give to black people?
I could continue if you like
Please do show me the clip or transcript of this.. I'm very interested
Its sad how the media can turn nothing into something its not.
Now that somebody brought Obama being assassinated, I could see some idoit doing that, hopefully that will not happen. Even if Obama is doing bad in his presidency, this will bring more problems to the states.
this is pointless. there's not way in hell Obama is going to win the election. sry, that's just the way it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ38N...eature=related
check out 1:30 into it.
How you figure miss cleo
If they haven't assinated Bush yet, what are the odds that they will get Obama?
K series 626. That's right. It's got a K in it.
That was the impression I got since Lincoln and Reagan were the only other assassination/attempt mentioned when there have been others.
I think you're assuming a lot about <x> person with this statement. If someone got their hands on a semi-modern MANPADS they could probably do it, but that wouldn't be easy by any means - from start to finish.
My point was actually leaning towards JFK and Lincoln. The point I was trying to make was that, with the exception of the Reagan attempt, that these were NOT just individuals. My point was the two successful ones being implemented BY the government itself. I know, you're rolling your eyes. However, whether you'd like to acknowledge it or not, there are some deep, dark, dirty secrets within the high levels of our government, and I honestly believe that if Obama got into office and shook things up too much, we'd see it again. Our government doesn't like extreme conservatives or liberals. The like moderates. Why do you think none of the hard line independent parties ever have a shot in hell of winning an election?
Aside from the fact that you're skewing and oversimplifying the political reality of our government tremendously- John Wilkes Booth just didn't like the outcome of the Civil War or Lincoln, Lee Harvey Oswald was just a communist/generally confused young man and Jack Ruby was just an emotional trainwreck with a gun. The government has tons of dirty not-so-secrets, but successfully implemented presidential assassinations aren't amongst them.
As a side note, extreme conservatives have been pooping in the white house for 7 years now, where have you been?
Racist white people, when have you seen a person of another race try to assassinate one of our presidents?
That still doesnt prove anything about Barack himself and HIS personal beliefs. I dont like or listen to my pastor all the time, thats why its takin me forever to become "holy." That USKKK of A comment. He can say that anyway, he was born during those times, u werent and neither was I. Maybe he's flustered. Pastors are people to.
I'd be perfectly content with an atheist being in office. Any logical person could argue that religious beliefs fit the criteria of being delusional. But that's another can of worms all together.
i'm christian and that would actually be good, this way we know church and state lines would not be crossed. Meaning that he wouldn't put his religious beliefs in the way of important decision making
Its unfortunate that the whole religion thing permeates so much. I really like Mike Huckabee but all of his rhetoric about amending the constitution to god's standards? There's a reason the word "god" doesn't appear once in the constitution. Major turn off, Mike Huckabee. The fact that he "understands BBQ" does a lot but doesn't quite make up for it.
honestly I don't feel like discussing it right now. I thought the reasons were obvious. maybe I will later but not now, long day @ the office.
a side note I would be willing to be anyone just about anything that Obama will NOT win the Presidency.
Unless McCain decides that continued U.S. presence in Iraq is a bad idea or every insurgent in Iraq joins the Care Bear Klub overnight, Obama is in a pretty good position to win.
And yes, I am writing Hillary off.
I am trying to get a job over seas for 4 years...
View the world through a dogs eyes, if you can't screw it or eat it, pi$$ on it and walk away.
are you willing to actually bet? or are you just saying that?
"every insurgent in Iraq joins the Care Bear Klub overnight":
They can even carry the My Little Pony M-4
Or if they are looking for a larger round:
the Hello Kitty AK-47, you can be the cutiest little insurgent on the west said of Haditha.
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I mean it
tempting, we will have to see who wins the nomination before discussing bets any further.
not having the moral strength or the judgement to leave does say alot about Obama. Even if he did believe what that racist pastor was saying his lack of judgement is even more obvious. He has been there since he went to DC and he would be an idiot if he didnt think that Wright's rants wouldnt make it into the press. That is another major knock on his judgement.
Yes Wright was born during those times. I have far less patience for those that know that side of racism spouting off there own. He should know better than me or you how damaging it can be.
lol yeah your right, but the fact that a minority is in a position to become president is a signal that change is upon the country, hopefully for the better.
i will also bet that obama will not win. the reason i like mccain is because he's a realist. Honestly, who believes that we can pull out of iraq in six months, one year, or even ten years? Yes, it is a sad reality that we have lost over 4000 soldiers, but media makes it seem like this is ****ing huge. We have lost fewer soldiers in this war than any other war.
Has anyone heard Obama disagree with his ex-pastor? hmmmmm.
I take it you didn't watch his race speach, did you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWe7wTVbLUU
All the ovious flaws that Clinton has and the only thing ya'll have on Barack is his pastor? I mean really? What's not to like about the man? Though I do admit, my only conserns about McCain is his health. 71 years old and has malignant melanoma, or at least healing from it. Not only will he be one of the oldest, but no one knows anything about his health nor has he released anything since 2000. His father lived to be 70 and his grandfather died at 61. I hope that his genes are as strong as his mothers being that she's 94.
K series 626. That's right. It's got a K in it.
Theres alot to not like Obama also.
1. His Healthcare plan
2. his tax hikes to business
3. expanded welfare
4. Stance on the occupation of Iraq
5. His lack of judgement
6. His lack of national experience
7. his obvious issues with race (taken from his autobiography and his association with his obviously racist pastor)
ill have to watch the video later i have a bad connection at school. but my biggest problem is his lack of experience. he is extremely "young" in the game. and to a certain extent he will divide the country.
all this speech did was throw his grandmother under the bus as being a racist.
Also if you think he wrote that speech you are an idiot.
I'm amazed that is all you took from the speech then turn around and call someone else an idiot.
It's also funny that you belittle the idea that Barack wrote the speech himself, I guess when you support a 72 year old that doesn't know the difference between Al Qaeda and "extremists" its hard to fathom a politician that can form a rational thought. He wrote the speech, accept it.
Its funny to me...Whenever I ask anyone why they do not like Barack Obama they reply, "Oh he's racist" and can never come up with even a piece of decent evidence to why they think he is.
So was Bill Clinton.. same with J.F.K, and I think they did pretty well.
Experience is nothing when running for president. Which candidate has been commander in chief?
people say hes a racist because he attended a church whose preacher was a racist. He also basicly said he didnt like white people in his book.
both also had alot of problems with extra marital affairs while in office.
Oh and Bill Clinton didnt do a damn thing while in office except bomb someone when he was in trouble. You can never bring up Clinton without mentioning Monica Lewinski and perjury. Just like JFK isnt thought of without a mention of Mariyln Monroe
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