Quote Originally Posted by Vayda
So you're claiming you know everything, then?

Man, you're such a know-it-all. :P

Or you're naieve and ignorant. You say that you've never seen something, so the probability of it existing is negligible. You've never seen my roommate, or my fiance, or my parents. So obviously they don't exist either, do they? You've probably never seen any evidence of them, except maybe my parents. But you've never seen any evidence that I have a 32" television in front of me. Does that mean I don't have one?

It's pretty impressive, for someone to know EVERYTHING, to the point where they can safely say that they know for sure that in all the universe something is nonexistant.


I don't think most self-proclaimed atheists are really atheists. I think they just don't believe in the Christian god, and extend that to all higher powers. Do you believe in Karma, Nirvana, or hell, Luck? Because ALL of those are higher powers.
OK, enough of this smartass attitude.

He wasn't claiming to know everything, none of us are. We're just saying that there hasn't been any evidence of a higher power ever existing, so therefore we base our beliefs into that! No god has ever been; seen, heard, felt, ect. thus there is no god.

You bringing up examples like your family doesn't prove a point. We all know human beings exist. So we won't argue that they don't exist, if you would have used something like the tooth fairy then maybe it would have been a good example, but you didn't. You're right about the atheists not really being atheists, because im sure alot of them do believe in luck, karma, and whatever else there is that falls into the same catagory.

If someone believes in hell than they have to believe in heaven, because there can't exist one without the other. Where there is evil there is good. So I don't know about the rest, but I disbelieve in jesus christ and everything that is in the bible is crap. But when you look at it and put alot of thought into it, there always has to be something greater than you out there.

I don't know why, but I do.

Don't know what it is or could be... thats how I see it.

Now im sure in the future we'll find the answers to these questions and come up with a new conclusion then. But til then we're left with what we know and believe in now. Which is really all we got, instead of looking for guidence from our past and seeking into the future by making prediction we should focus in the "now."

I've been wasting too many brain cells over this topic for a good week now, and im drained. LOL people are welcomed to post, but im staying out of it for the time being. Hopefully I still see some educated people posting in here. XD