Quote Originally Posted by C22H19N3O4
I'm only critical of your religious posts b/c they are comical.
Glad you like them.

If you don't like what I post then don't read it.
Come up with something more original than that tired ass response.

I don't like what you post because you NEVER give anything else besides what little resides between your ears any validity, opportunity, or chance. You are by far the absolute most biased and closed minded individual on this entire site. Even totally opposing views have had very constructive albeit argumentative debates here, that is until you start to post. What happens then is that it turns debates into cluster fucks because you love to insert personal conjecture and biased propaganda that you google while you get your rocks off getting on people's nerves on purpose.

Can I be any more clear for you?


I encourage everyone to respond to my topics, EVEN someone like you. If you can dish it out then you SHOULD be able to take it.
Name one time I've never "took" what you're tried to shovel around?? Name it.

You have yet to answer a question I posed to you last year. It's not verbatim but close enough: if you and every Christian zealot deem science as inaccurate, why do you reap the rewards of it everyday?
For the exact same reason you're allowed to breathe the AIR that GOD gave you to breathe.

In your world, we take an aspirin for a headache we suddenly become defacto approvers of the big band theory. It figures, but you're so far off the mark it's not even worth the gum off the bottom of your school desk.

Just because someone uses scientific improvements doesn't automatically mean that they endorce science's idea of evolution. That makes no sense whatsoever. So does that mean that if you breathe the air that I believe wholeheartedly GOD made and provides for you that you suddenly believe God exists??? No, right? Then why would me taking advantage of scientific improvements make me any more an endorcer of the big bang theory? How do you tie both together?


I know it's an elementary question, but it serves my purpose. I'm willing to bet that if a family member were to become ill you wouldn't call your priest first. Im pretty sure you'd be headed to the ER. Why not just pray about it? Pray and hope that your loved one will pull through and forget about all the advances in medicine.
I've answered it before and I answered it again above. You just don't like the answer.

Just because I would look to science to mend a broken BODY does not have anything to do with that person's or his/her family's FAITH in God. Nothing at all. So in your thought process, if I go and get my broken arm casted up at the ER it automatically means that I don't believe in God??? How's that work again? I may pray for someone's speedy recovery. I may pray for someone's family to stay strong during a hard time in their life. That doesn't mean that I don't hope and also pray that the doctors and nurses who try and mend them also are successful. So your point is totally invalid and makes no sense. I see where you're going, but you just don't know how to get there.

I'll tell you what....I'll use the same logic right back on you. How come you rely so heavily on your tried and true "science", yet your "science" can't keep us from dying???? If it's sooooo perfectly right as you say it is and base your whole life on, why do people STILL die ON meds and while under Dr's care??? Furthermore, why do people die each and every day eventhough they were given a clean bill of health by DR's? One more since I'm on a roll.....why do people die every day while on PRESCRIBED MEDICINES that someone somewhere swore would prolong their life??? Answer those with science.


Oddly enough, religious nuts only seem to call the clergy when the patient is near death's door. People like you take comfort in the bosom of science when you need it most, but when it doesn't conform to your propaganda it's the red headed stepchild.
See, you are so twisted in trying to refute everything I say that you can't see the forest for the trees.

I'm not arguing against Science. I'm arguing against people that don't use common sense to figure out that there has to be something far greater than US that created, orchestrated, and planned ALL of us being here right now. Science has tried to COPY what has been CREATED before. It has only succeeded in COPYING what is already there. It has NEVER CREATED anything that comes remotely close to what real life creates every day. So for someone to sit there and pompously proclaim that "Science" is the root of humanity and thereby "Science" is how everything around us including humans was created doesn't make any sense to me. If that was so, how come "Science" can't create anything? You are depending your whole life upon something that continuously evolves into something else over time. The belief of God has been basically the same for millenia, yet you want to argue against it using theories that are continuously changing rationale??? Makes no sense to me.


Now, the statement is not just meant for Jaime, but for every Christian nut that assumes science is inherently evil.
As I said above, I don't know where you are getting that I think Science is evil. I don't. I think it is just a tool like every other tool we use to make our life here as comfortable as possible. Nothing at all wrong with it. The only problem I have is when people use "science" as their ONLY belief system, yet see NO flaws with it at all. THAT is my problem with you, NOT science. Science can prove lots of things. It has yet to disprove God though. Why is that? Because it can't. Science of today is obsolete tommorow by yet another "scientific" discovery that today we didn't think existed or was possible. How come "scientist" fall on their ass backwards saying something is dead on balls accurate today, yet tommorow come in to announce a great breakthrough that makes what was accurate yesterday not so accurate today???? This is the theory you want to base your life's belief system on? Fickle and often proving itself wrong.....that is what you base your life's beliefs on??? Good for you.

You may mock my belief system. You may not agree with it. You're also a fool if you think that there isn't another higher power that has orchestrated all of this, including mine and your bickering debates. You hang your hat on the nail of an aging mortar and pestle and I'll just hang mine on the nails of the cross. You choose what you want to believe in. That is exactly what God intended for each and every one of us.....for us to CHOOSE him or not. Each side has its rewards and punishments. Roll the dice the way YOU see fit.

Just some comments by the judge on Behe's testimony:
David's a big boy and he can respond to your comments himself, but I will say this:

A Judge? You're using a court ruling to back up your evolution belief???

Maybe I'll post up what my mechanic thinks.....maybe I'll quote my next door neighbor.....wait, I know.....I'll quote a bum off the corner who is preaching to me to get me to give him money.....

As if a JUDGE is some kind of authority on evolution or science or even religion.

Quote a scientist or a priest, but a judge????

Anyway, I'll let David respond to your reply, but I just had to comment. Carry on.