Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
dont want to interject but there are a few things that you said jaime that i would not have expected from you
Sorry to dissapoint.


that right there is a stupid, stupid question. i guess i expected you not to make such ignorant statements, but o well. you sit there and ask that, yet you dont ask why god cant save peoples lives .
#1. It is an analogy, so it is not meant to make factual sense just rhetorical.
#2. It is not ignorant to ask someone that bases his whole life around "science" and how much man is the top of the evolutionary chain due to it's high brain capacity why if "man" and his science is so dead on accurate to have solved life's one and only riddle yet it can't keep us from dying. In other words, if science is so evolutionized that it has proven the lack of existance of a higher being why is it that it still can't keep us from dying? God has a plan for that very riddle. Always has. Always was the same. Science in turn has changed it's answer 50 gazillion times. THAT was my point.


So people dont have any common sense if they dont believe in your god? That just goes to show why organized religion is a joke.
See, now I expected far more from YOU then.

I never said anyone that doesn't believe the same things I do have no common sense. Where did I say that? I said that not believing in a HIGHER POWER doesn't make sense to me and outlined the reasons why.

People will believe what they want to believe. Look at IA as an example. There are a lot of people that don't believe in God. That's fine. So when I say that it makes no common sense to not believe I am saying that I don't see the logic in thinking WE, humans, are all knowing and suddenly have solved the question of the existance of God, period. Be it Allah, Buddah, Jesus, or Jehovah. The point is that TO ME it is utterly ridiculous to think that I, let alone half the ying yangs on IA that still barely can tie their own shoes, have enough brain matter capacity to quantifiably prove the existance of God beyond any doubt. This is where ALL of us have to choose that proverbial fork in the road. Some choose the right, some choose the left. That is what the whole purpose in life really is, choosing the right path according to what YOU believe. If you believe that there is no God, then you choose one side of the road over the other. That's it. This is why I said what I said. Clear now?


How are you going to sit there and say that someone claiming science is the root of life doesnt make sense to you,
Because it doesn't.



yet you WHOLEHEARTEDLY believe there is this god out there that put it all there?
Because THAT is what makes sense to ME.


I mean if you didnt EVER go to church or ever hear the concept of a god you wouldnt even think there was a god. Someone planted that idea in your head at whatever age and you came to believe it, just as Cialis does with science.
Well, funny you use that example.

I have read many stories about missionaries that have traveled and lived in some of the most remote areas of the globe. Like you said, when they get there people have lots of questions about lots of things. When the missionaries relay their Biblical or religious ideas, often times these people have that Acme-light bulb going off over your head- epiphany. It suddenly all clicks and makes sense when before they couldn't make heads or tails about it.

I would imagine that happens in reverse too when someone decides to believe Science and Evolution over Creationism. But often times when we are researching for ourselves we find the answer that makes SENSE to US and then just call that OUR "fact" storing it up there in some filing cabinet in our heads. So just because you've not heard about Christianity doesn't necessarily mean you don't believe in a higher being, it may just be you haven't realized where to go look up the answer at.


Until you both some riding bandwagons you wont see anyother possible way but your own.
I think you left something out of that sentence, but I agree with you.

So evolution is bad? Believing in something that ACTUALLY corrects its mistakes is a bad thing?
Not necessarily, just the raw idea of everything on earth began from some single celled organism that was in some cespool of nothingness suddenly becoming a life. That part makes no sense.

Now, the fact that things adapt to their new environments in order to survive, that I believe. There can still be a master plan. There can still be a God overseeing things. There can still be a purpose to everything. That is strictly faith, and I think that's what you guys have problems with me on.