Black History Month

[1000cckiller]

This country is still very racist, including the blacks. Blacks get away with the majority of the racial problems this country faces. Black history month is one of those things not to mention BET(Black Entertainment Television). Both of which if any other race had an equavalent they would be considered racist by the masses.

Blacks also fight for the supposedly "politically correct" alternative to 'blacks' : "african-americans". This so-called politically correct term is racist in nature, im white, and the majority of whites are ok with being called white. Personally, when i look in the mirror, on the most simplist terms of colors my skin is white. Blacks on the other hand get uneasy when refered to as blacks. Why? I have no idea, all i know is there are plenty of people that fight for this "politically correct" term. I have a little bit of irish in my bloodline, but am i called an Irish-American, nope; neither do i want to be called that. There is only one type of american in my opinion and thats the good ol fashioned plain "american" NOT: irish-american, african-american, turkish-american, or any other word you could make up. I just dont understand why a race that is supposedly anti-segregation chooses to segregate themselfs with "politically correct" termanology.

We also have blatantly racist people in atlanta, that have influence over the population, two of which is the mayor of atlanta, and jesse jackson. yet they continue to do so with great support. You dont see the KKK on FOX News at night, but you see Jesse Jackson on there saying Katrina was a racist act on the goverments behalf.

All in all, this country needs to get over race, and worry about things that truly matter. And back on topic, yes : Black history month should be done away with asap.

o really, dude know what you are talking about before you speak, My grandparents and my parents were born back in the racist era, 1900 to the 1940s I know the stories that I have heard are not fiction, so to say that blacks are racist, is completely wrong, step in my grandparents shoes, and have your ass beaten for being black, or not doing what some white person told you to do. Be in their shoes and talk that dumb shit. My parents were born in the early 40s ad they went through some of the stuff my grandparents went through but not all the way to the same level, but it was close. Tell them that they are racsit for what happened to them, and you might not see another day. Black history is to show what struggles some blacks have been trough an what they have accomplished, So its not a national hoilday. Its something to give people inspiration for accomplishments.

[Danny]

o really, ..... accomplishments.

trust me man. This country is racist. White people included. If i came across as blacks being racist, and them alone I appoligize.

Where is native-american history month? can you answer that, cause the whites basically slaughtered them, yet they dont get a month.

I just think we focus a little too much on our history, to the point that it hurts us. In no way, shape, or form should we forget about what has happened in the past. But in no way do we need a month about a race, its just not fair to other races, PERIOD. Now where do you draw the line in determining which races get a month? That would be a racist decision wouldnt it?

[ShooterMcGavin]

lemme know when it's asian history month...

[Hulud]

lemme know when it's asian history month...

will do, youll be the first person i call lol

[ShooterMcGavin]

that'd be some serious ish, i'd go out and buy some fireworks

[Hulud]

that'd be some serious ish, i'd go out and buy some fireworks

since your people created them and all right? lol

[ShooterMcGavin]

since your people created them and all right? lol

glad u got that

[TIGERJC]

This country is still very racist, including the blacks. Blacks get away with the majority of the racial problems this country faces. Black history month is one of those things not to mention BET(Black Entertainment Television). Both of which if any other race had an equavalent they would be considered racist by the masses.

Sounds like you have a problem with the word black. If there was no upn or Bet u wouldn't never see Black person on TV except for sports. I call that racist that there are few shows on network tv that appeal to other races other than white. The real sad thing is that the few blacks shows that are on tv play into the Black stereotype.

you see Jesse Jackson on there saying Katrina was a racist act on the goverments behalf.

I do agree that Jesse Jackson cries woof to many times, but I do see (also a lot of black) where he is coming from to a certain degree on the Katrina matter. Katrina just showed the entire country how blacks still don't trust white ppl and the gov't. Katrina was a disaster, that I feel that would still turn out shitty if it where white ppl that were stuck in New Orleans. But I still have that feeling that more heads would have rolled if majority of those people where white that were stuck in New Orleans. I have that kind of thought process, b/c as a kid I heard the true stories of what blacks and also what family members had to endure in this country. I am not talking about the 50’s; I am talking about as early as the med 90’s

All in all, this country needs to get over race, and worry about things that truly matter. And back on topic, yes : Black history month should be done away with asap.

As a country we still have a long way to go

[Danny]

Sounds like you have a problem with the word black. If there was no upn or Bet u wouldn't never see Black person on TV except for sports. I call that racist that there are few shows on network tv that appeal to other races other than white. The real sad thing is that the few blacks shows that are on tv play into the Black stereotype.

I expected this response. But your missing the point, the racist action is in the NAME. It suggests that only Blacks can watch. You arguing that other channels consist mostly of whites, is true, but an invalided argument, and has nothing to do with my argument. Feel free to start a network with the majority of the on air talent being black, that’s fine. But the second you call it BLACK Entertainment, that’s racist. This would pertain to any race.

I do agree that Jesse Jackson cries woof to many times, but I do see (also a lot of black) where he is coming from to a certain degree on the Katrina matter. Katrina just showed the entire country how blacks still don't trust white ppl and the gov't. Katrina was a disaster, that I feel that would still turn out shitty if it where white ppl that were stuck in New Orleans. But I still have that feeling that more heads would have rolled if majority of those people where white that were stuck in New Orleans. I have that kind of thought process, b/c as a kid I heard the true stories of what blacks and also what family members had to endure in this country. I am not talking about the 50’s; I am talking about as early as the med 90’s.

Maybe your right. But that accusation needs proof, people of this country cant call a disaster like that to be a racial matter with out significant proof. Personally i dont think it was a racial matter in regards to the delayed response.

As a country we still have a long way to go

a very long way to go. I would love if we could all drop the racial issues, but its just not going to happen.

[devin]

your soo right all of us white people are the devil and it is some secret plan to keep black people in america down.

[TIGERJC]

your soo right all of us white people are the devil and it is some secret plan to keep black people in america down.

Ok take what I said to the extreme point. I can't talk for all blacks, but I know I am not the only one to hear this when I was growing up. All u pale bastards are the devil, but I still love yall

[Cool Cat GTR]

First, to answer the question. I think the month should be abolished. Just as I think Hallmark created a ton of bogus reasons for us to celebrate all the worthless holidays they have tried to invent. History cannot be changed although there are many people of many races and religions that are probably embarassed for actions of all sorts from previous generations. Yes, I have white skin but how many folks realize that history in Rome suggests that most of the people (which happened to have white skin) were homosexuals. All of us might have heritage that puts our family tree square in the middle of dick suckers of the world during that time. Who knows. Rome fell. Did it fall because of skin color? Did it fall because of all the dick suckers? Who cares. It takes all kinds of people to co-exist in today's world. Yes, I'm a little older than a lot of folks on IA but I respect everyone as to their right to be a human being. It's very easy to generalize about things when a common identifying characteristic exist. The whole black/white or male/female arguments are a big waste of time. Everyday I depend on good people of many different backgrounds as most everyone else does too. The sooner we all decide to quit rehashing history and begin to plan the future, the better we all will be. Personally, I always felt that history in school was a big waste of time. Would it not have been better to spend the time on something that would prepare us to make a living rather than sleeping through a history course. Think about this, if history wasn't offerred as a course in school, what would history teachers do to earn a living? Answer: They would starve since they offer nothing of importance to any of us. Just my two cents. However, if we have to hate on something, couldn't we all agree that Hondas suck? Thank you.

Wouldn't it make more sense to judge people based on their character as opposed to their sex, race, or religion?

[Hulud]

The sooner we all decide to quit rehashing history and begin to plan the future, the better we all will be. Personally, I always felt that history in school was a big waste of time. Would it not have been better to spend the time on something that would prepare us to make a living rather than sleeping through a history course. Think about this, if history wasn't offerred as a course in school, what would history teachers do to earn a living? Answer: They would starve since they offer nothing of importance to any of us. Just my two cents.

if you dont learn from the past, you're doomed to repeat it

Wouldn't it make more sense to judge people based on their character as opposed to their sex, race, or religion?

exactly

[devin]

i disagree with you buddy.....










































hondas dont suck.

[Cool Cat GTR]

It's all good dude. At least tell me you have a S2000.

[Cool Cat GTR]

I love the military picture shagwagon. If everyone had to serve their country then we would all be put through challenges that would emphasize the importance of depending on one another regardless of background.

[ShooterMcGavin]

I love the military picture shagwagon. If everyone had to serve their country then we would all be put through challenges that would emphasize the importance of depending on one another regardless of background.

lol, i think u missed the point of that picture, look closely at the guy on the left and what he appears to be holding/doing...

[BigTs13]

i didnt bother to read any of the pages in the thread except for the 1st post, because its probably just a bunch of arguing. im not racist at all. im white and i have a 1/2 black sister, and my mom has a black husband. i think racism is stupidity. now, on the the black history month issue. i understand why we have it, but why is it such a big deal? why not a white history month, or an asian history month, or a jewish history month? im tired of hearing about african americans talking about reparations. i dont owe u anything. now...if i had my ancestor, and ur ancestor who was kept into slavery by mine, then i would make him apologize...but why do u want money? dont u understand that if we give u (african americans) money that u will just spend it on cars and stuff and that will just go back to white people? i think the south should just do a formal apology. slavery was fucked up. just my 2cents...

[TIGERJC]

i didnt bother to read any of the pages in the thread except for the 1st post, because its probably just a bunch of arguing. im not racist at all. im white and i have a 1/2 black sister, and my mom has a black husband. i think racism is stupidity. now, on the the black history month issue. i understand why we have it, but why is it such a big deal? why not a white history month, or an asian history month, or a jewish history month? im tired of hearing about african americans talking about reparations. i dont owe u anything. now...if i had my ancestor, and ur ancestor who was kept into slavery by mine, then i would make him apologize...but why do u want money? dont u understand that if we give u (african americans) money that u will just spend it on cars and stuff and that will just go back to white people? i think the south should just do a formal apology. slavery was fucked up. just my 2cents...

HOW DOES IT TURN INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT BLACK HISTORY month to reparations. I honestly could careless about repartions and most black people I know feel the same way.

[on 3]

Right on, Andy Rooney!
Andy Rooney said on “60 Minutes” a few weeks back:
I don’t think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black Am erica. Try to have things like the UnitedCaucasianCollege Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens…Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.
Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.
I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?
I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
I have the right “NOT” to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.
When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.
I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!
My father and grandfather didn’t die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can’t understand the word “freeze” or “stop” in English, see the above lines.
I don’t think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can o pen a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.
We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.
I don’t hate the rich I don’t pity the poor.
I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn’t stop you from watching them.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that’s better, and put your name on the building.
It doesn’t take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say “NO!”

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don’t pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don’t want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!
I am sick of “Political Correctness.” I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be “African-Americans”? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don’t go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else
And if you don’t like my point of view, tough…
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!
I was asked to send this on if I agree or delete if I don’t. It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having “In God We Trust” on our money and having “God” in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don’t we just tell the 14% to Shut Up and BE QUIET!!!

[EJGuy]

Right on, Andy Rooney!

Andy Rooney said on “60 Minutes” a few weeks back:
I don’t think being a minority makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment Television, and Miss Black Am erica. Try to have things like the UnitedCaucasianCollege Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss White America; and see what happens…Jesse Jackson will be knocking down your door.
Guns do not make you a killer. I think killing makes you a killer. You can kill someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.
I believe they are called the Boy Scouts for a reason, that is why there are no girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE?
I think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion.
I have the right “NOT” to be tolerant of others because they are different, weird, or tick me off.
When 70% of the people who get arrested are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not racial profiling, it is the Law of Probability.
I believe that if you are selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact, if you want to be an American citizen, you should have to speak English!
My father and grandfather didn’t die in vain so you can leave the countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
I think the police should have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you can’t understand the word “freeze” or “stop” in English, see the above lines.
I don’t think just because you were not born in this country, you are qualified for any special loan programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax breaks, etc., so you can o pen a hotel, coffee shop, trinket store, or any other business.
We did not go to the aid of certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they could come over here and tell us our constitution is a living document; and open to their interpretations.
I don’t hate the rich I don’t pity the poor.
I know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and television. That doesn’t stop you from watching them.
I think Bill Gates has every right to keep every penny he made and continue to make more. If it ticks you off, go and invent the next operating system that’s better, and put your name on the building.
It doesn’t take a whole village to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds when necessary, and say “NO!”

I think tattoos and piercing are fine if you want them, but please don’t pretend they are a political statement. And, please, stay home until that new lip ring heals. I don’t want to look at your ugly infected mouth as you serve me French fries!
I am sick of “Political Correctness.” I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born in Africa; so how can they be “African-Americans”? Besides, Africa is a continent. I don’t go around saying I am a European-American because my great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else
And if you don’t like my point of view, tough…
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG, OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!
I was asked to send this on if I agree or delete if I don’t. It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having “In God We Trust” on our money and having “God” in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don’t we just tell the 14% to Shut Up and BE QUIET!!!

I couldn't agree more.

[on 3]

i thought that it has some points on this topic

[Hulud]

i think people arent seeing my whole point for this thread

HISTORY IS HISTORY

ITS NOT WHITE ITS NOT BLACK ITS NOT ANYTHING BUT HISTORY

white is black is hispanic is asian is native american etc etc......

everyones history is one and the same

[Lucky DAWG]

i think people arent seeing my whole point for this thread

HISTORY IS HISTORY

ITS NOT WHITE ITS NOT BLACK ITS NOT ANYTHING BUT HISTORY

white is black is hispanic is asian is native american etc etc......

everyones history is one and the same

seriously now

could this get anymore complicated?
power to you

[Hektik]

agreed its everyones history.... so stop acting like yall need some kind of extra special cookie.... besides its in the past learn from it so that the bad does not repeat itself but stop holding on to it ....

[1000cckiller]

agreed its everyones history.... so stop acting like yall need some kind of extra special cookie.... besides its in the past learn from it so that the bad does not repeat itself but stop holding on to it ....

If it does yall will all be my bitches.

[Kamikaze]

I can't believe I just sat here and read all of this, but here's my question...

What is it that bothers white people about BHM? Does it take something away from you? Does it offend you? Do you not feel included? I read the replies, that I don't agree with, about it further dividing the races but I just don't understand why threads like this are needed. Can we [Blacks] not have something to ourselves for just 28 days out of the year? I mean come on, what changes? A few more commercials here and there, maybe a few more signs and billboards? Where's the harm in that?

Someone please explain it to me because I have failed to see the harm.

Btw, I love BET.

[Hulud]

Someone please explain it to me because I have failed to see the harm.

first question is, wasnt bhm started to raise awareness about black cultures and equality?

well how equal is it to have your own month? (personally i dont give a flying fuck about a WHM) my whole point is that BHM is segregating Blacks from everyone else. i feel (call my crazy i guess) that history is not restricted to one race, we are all humans first, races second. so why do we need to classify things based on race?

[Lucky DAWG]

first question is, wasnt bhm started to raise awareness about black cultures and equality?

well how equal is it to have your own month? (personally i dont give a flying fuck about a WHM) my whole point is that BHM is segregating Blacks from everyone else. i feel (call my crazy i guess) that history is not restricted to one race, we are all humans first, races second. so why do we need to classify things based on race?

i agree

its not racist to not give you your own month. it only seperates black people even further, we should just treat eachother equally and make awareness for slavery and issues of black civil rights in the past, but a month is not necessary for that.

some black people will say that its the least we could do for enslaving them over a hundred years ago. WHICH WAS COMPLETELY UNETHICAL AND BEYOND IMMORAL AND WRONG... but they fail to see that even if you can argue that your present conditions are because of slavery and you want reperations... that was caused by people long dead.

racism still goes on, on both sides of the fence. but we should just get on with things and treat eachother equally, make sure people are aware of the past so they don't make the same mistakes, but don't make a whole seperate month to only divide us into different groups even more so

P.S. - i could care less about a WHM as well, i wouldn't want one either

[Kamikaze]

well how equal is it to have your own month?

It's not like we bought the rights to the month of February. We don't own it so it doesn't really belong to us. It's just a designated time that is used to celebrate our culture.

(personally i dont give a flying fuck about a WHM) my whole point is that BHM is segregating Blacks from everyone else.

That was my question. I'm really not understanding how this is so.

i feel (call my crazy i guess) that history is not restricted to one race, we are all humans first, races second. so why do we need to classify things based on race?

I don't know if I agree with you completely there. For example, some inventions or ideas were first created or developed by a particular race. To be able to say, "Hey we did this first." is kind of a way to be proud of your heritage. You know what I'm sayin?

[man]

I don't know if I agree with you completely there. For example, some inventions or ideas were first created or developed by a particular race. To be able to say, "Hey we did this first." is kind of a way to be proud of your heritage. You know what I'm sayin?

That's ridiculous. How does a race invent something. That's like saying the white people invented the light bulb. Did all of the white people in the world gather together and come up with that? Hell no, one man did it and why does the race of that man matter anyway?

[Lucky DAWG]

That's ridiculous. How does a race invent something. That's like saying the white people invented the light bulb. Did all of the white people in the world gather together and come up with that? Hell no, one man did it and why does the race of that man matter anyway?

sill question

bc white people have bigger brains
kidding kidding

many races of people have invented great things
it has nothing to do with anything

the chinese were inventing what europeans had 100's of years before them though. asia is still kicking our ass today, we're bout to get stomped

[Kamikaze]

That's ridiculous. How does a race invent something. That's like saying the white people invented the light bulb. Did all of the white people in the world gather together and come up with that? Hell no, one man did it and why does the race of that man matter anyway?

You misinterpreted what I was saying. Of course a race can't invent something as there are people being born into it constantly. But when something great is discovered or created that has an immense impact on human history, is the origin of the creator not attached to it?

And I don't know why race matters. I don't make the rules.

[Hulud]

I don't know if I agree with you completely there. For example, some inventions or ideas were first created or developed by a particular race. To be able to say, "Hey we did this first." is kind of a way to be proud of your heritage. You know what I'm sayin?

but once again thats just separating everyone based on race

cause then it becomes a pissing contest on things different races have done for society. it would never end.

do you want equality? i know i sure do. i think people should see past race and see people for who they really are, Humans.

[Kamikaze]

do you want equality? i know i sure do. i think people should see past race and see people for who they really are, Humans.

Do I want equality? Sure. Do I think it will happen in my lifetime? No.

[cornercarver78]

***DISCLAIMER***
Anyone that posts any form of bigotry in this thread will have their post(s) deleted.

Ok before anyone wants to jump down my throat for this post, please read and re-read what i post.

Ok whats your thoughts on Black History Month?

Personally I feel that it should be done away with, there shouldnt be one. Ok Ok here me out on this. I feel that Black History=White History=Asian History=Hispanic History=Indian History=etc... so why the color barrier on remembering a certain races history? I feel that it does no good, only makes the color barrier bigger. I mean there is no other history months for people of other races.

History is history, it is color blind. So why only recognize one race for their history?

I feel this only puts civil rights at a further disadvantage for success

Discuss

Exactly, SOME poeple only want you to be color blind when it suits their purpose